UCI rules

Clive George said:

At what level do these apply?

Wherever the official in charge says "UCI rules apply". You
can have national cycle federations affiliated to UCI
running races where they don't apply (USCF allows 'bents in
time trials, for example), or there's nothing to stop local
event organisers adopting them for their race. It's up to
the people running the races what rules they want to use.

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At what level do these apply?

(there's nothing behind this question bar interest!)

cheers, clive

Well, certainly the anti-doping rules apply to CTT events at
even a local level. At the back end of last year we had a
circular come round on our club email list about the anti-
doping requirements that if you take a banned substance for
a genuine medical reason, you have to have it registered at
British Cycling and send in a copy of notification from your
doc it is for a genuine medical reason.

Indeed, having been prescribed a salbutamol inhaler for my
current asthmatic misery, my doc did such a letter for me
and I duly sent it off to BCF. I am now in receipt of a nice
letter from BCF, saying I am covered to use salbutamol, at
normal dosage, for my asthma and can enter events. Not that
I am likely to be a contender for the Olympic squad or a
threat to Nicole Cooke or Victoria Pendleton, but can you
imagine the embarrassment to my teenage cycling son if I
entered a local open event and it was the one the testers
turned up at and his Mum tested positive.... I think I'll
spare him that :-) Plus, I think I'm setting him the right
example about sticking to the rules.

Cheers, helen s

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At what level do these apply?

To UCI events only. There's only two or three of those in
the UK (Lincoln GP is one).

However, most national federations keep their rules in line
with the UCI's so all BCF events (run under BCF regs, not
UCI) are in practice pretty much under UCI rules.

CTT (for timetrials) not do apply UCI rules (e.g. they are
much laxer in the type of bike you can ride).

See next post for drugs though

Arthur

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Quoted message said:

Clive George said:

At what level do these apply?

Wherever the official in charge says "UCI rules apply".
You can have national cycle federations affiliated to
UCI running races where they don't apply (USCF allows
'bents in time trials, for example), or there's nothing
to stop local event organisers adopting them for their
race. It's up to the people running the races what rules
they want to use.

I'd worked that bit out myself! Ok, I'll rephrase : at what
level do the rules typically apply?

cheers, clive

dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers <[email hidden]> wrote:

: Well, certainly the anti-doping rules apply to CTT events
: at even a local level.

No. CTT events are run under CTT rules not UCI rules.

: At the back end of last year we had a circular come round
: on our club email list about the anti-doping requirements
: that if you take a banned substance for a genuine medical
: reason, you have to have it registered at British Cycling
: and send in a copy of notification from your doc it is for
: a genuine medical reason.

That's becuase BC run the drugs bit for CTT.

In practice of course, the BCF and CTT pretty much just take
the UCI presribed drugs list (I suspect it might be a
condition for the BCF of being recognised by the UCI. This
doesn't apply to CTT).

: Indeed, having been prescribed a salbutamol inhaler for my
: current asthmatic misery

When I checked this, the word was that inhaled standard
asthma meds did not need to be notified, only injected or
unusual ones. Of course, it dooesn't hurt to tell people and
that way you are safe.

Arthur

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Arthur Clune said:

In practice of course, the BCF and CTT pretty much just
take the UCI presribed drugs list

ITYM proscribed, not prescribed...

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Clive George said:

At what level do these apply?

Wherever the official in charge says "UCI rules apply".
You can have national cycle federations affiliated to
UCI running races where they don't apply (USCF allows
'bents in time trials, for example), or there's nothing
to stop local event organisers adopting them for their
race. It's up to the people running the races what rules
they want to use.

I'd worked that bit out myself!

Heh. You have to phrase your questions *very* precisely in
this 'ere newsfroup to prevent having the Obvious Bag
emptied over your feet.

And you've been here long enough that you should know that
:-)

Quoted message said:

Ok, I'll rephrase : at what level do the rules
typically apply?

If you had asked to whom they apply on average, you would
have had the reply that they apply to average people. So
they apply at typical UCI-sanctioned races :-)
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On 22/6/04 3:45 pm, in article
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Quoted message said:

In practice of course, the BCF and CTT pretty much just
take the UCI presribed drugs list

ITYM proscribed, not prescribed...

Damn, I was trying to fill the prescription....
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dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers <[email hidden]> wrote:

: "VERY IMPORTANT - NEW REQUIREMENT EFFECTIVE FROM 1
: JANUARY 2004

Sigh. THat's new. I checked with the BCF (as it was then),
so wonder if they have gone down the same route.

Arthur

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dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers <[email hidden]> wrote:
:>: Well, certainly the anti-doping rules apply to CTT
:>: events at even a local level.

: I didn't say CTT didn't have its own rules and didn't say
: it doesn't run events under its own rules. I simply stated
: the situation as to the anti-doping. As per the CTT web
: site... which clearly mentions UCI anti-doping regs...

Apologies. I should have read your post closer. I guess the
point I should have made is that CTT isn't bound by the UCI
rules per se - it chooses what it wants to enforce and what
it doesn't. So it takes the drug list but not the bit about
tricycles for example

The answer to the original question was right though -
UCI rules only apply to UCI events and there's not a
lot of them.

Even BC don't apply UCI rules wholesale. When the UCI
changed the rules on bike shape to outlaw funny shaped tubes
a few yeras ago, BC allowed the bikes to be used for two
seasons longer than the UCI to allow for the fact that us
weekend warriors have to pay for our own kit.

Arthur

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Clive George said:

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Quoted message said:

Clive George said:

At what level do these apply?

Wherever the official in charge says "UCI rules apply".

I'd worked that bit out myself! Ok, I'll rephrase : at
what level do the rules typically apply?

At most, but it does seem flexible. A *lot* depends upon the
event commissaire.

John B

Arthur Clune said:

: At what level do these apply?

To UCI events only. There's only two or three of those in
the UK (Lincoln GP is one).

A few more than that (for a start the National Trophy cross
series, and a few other international level cross events I
think - inter alia it means that you can't ride mountain
bikes in them, unlike events on the domestic calendar, and
it puts stricter limits on course design).

Roger