UCI officers should resign

"Sandy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Well, that's the opinion of the French federation, and I am happy to
support that view.

I am absolutely in disagreement with you Sandy. The sport absolutely
requires something like the UCI and while it hasn't demonstrated a lot of
intelligence lately neither has any other segment of the cycling world.

I believe that McQuaid is a long way from the best possible head of the UCI
but I also feel that there's probably no one else around that's as good in
such a position without a great deal more experience than McQuaid has.

Everything is in an uproar now because all sports. And the reason is the
amount of money a successful athlete can make. Of course they're going to
drug to increase their chances of making it in the big time. And of course
it's going to be difficult to control them. But you don't do it by becoming
little more than a fascist state with people like Prudhome dictating whom
they want to win.

The French (I use that term loosely) are just using this to dig at the
US. Everybody knows this but won't say it. The French are now second-
rate in world diplomacy, third rate in the cycling world and this is
just another pathetic attempt by the French to appear virtuous, which,
of course, is laughable--Virenque...need I say more?

In defence of the "The French"...i'm not referring to your average
Frenchman (or Frenchwoman...or Frenchpet), they aren't fools and are a
bit embarrassed by all of this. Nearly all who I've talked to (I
work 6 months a year in France) don't agree with the exclusion the
Tour winner and Astana...at least those that I talk to that know
anything about cycling.

Sandy said:

Well, that's the opinion of the French federation, and I am happy to support
that view.

As of the present moment, the UCI is absolutely, factually, without any
effect on the world of cycling (unless it were to attempt to influence the
IOC, and that would be nasty for the track and BMX racers).

Just think of it positively - there is no reason at all to respect actions
or decisions of the UCI.  Paris-Nice finished quite well, thanks.

What remains to negotiate - ideally where riders are much more vocal - is
the regulation framework for the use and prohibition of certain substances
and procedures that produce unfair effects AND which are simultaneously
harmful to the health of racers.  Vampires ought not be allowed to intrude
on the lives of racers beyond what is a normal business day.  No 03H00 tests
; no graveside tests ; no tests where test results are not unequivocally
interpreted.

There needs to be a parallel prohibition on promoters, who with their PR
machines in full gear, try to demonstrate their self-righteousness to be
superior to that of all others.  They should NOT have the right to deny to a
legal competitor his right to earn a living in the profession he is
qualified and licenced to exercise.  No team bans based on the inscription
of a _former_ violator, already having purged his offence.  No individual
bans on that basis either.

Where are the brains these riders supposedly have?  Certainly not focused on
the prime factor - without the best riders in the world competing in the
best races of the world, there is no professional bicycle racing.

Just say NO to the UCI.  Tell it to your federation - mine is already there.
--
Sandy
--
Mobilité et stabilité ne sont pas antinomiques :
un cycliste n'est stable sur sa bicyclette
qu'en avançant.
- Chirac, J

Sandy wrote;

Quoted message said:

Well, that's the opinion of the French federation, and I
am happy to support that view.
As of the present moment, the UCI is absolutely, factually,
without any effect on the world of cycling (unless it
were to attempt to influence the IOC, and that would
be nasty for the track and BMX racers).
Just think of it positively - there is no reason
at all to respect actions or decisions of the UCI.
Paris-Nice finished quite well, thanks.

Sandy, I won't discount your Federalism for your country. Pride is a
powerful elixir.
But this little coup will net the usual results.
We're all well aware how French Revolutions typically begin and end.
Besides, the French change their politics more often then they change
their skivvies.

Best of Luck & Regards - Mike Baldwin

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The French (I use that term loosely) are just using this to dig at the
US. Everybody knows this but won't say it.

Drollebak,

This has nothing to do with the US.

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Sandy wrote;

Quoted message said:

Well, that's the opinion of the French federation, and I
am happy to support that view.
As of the present moment, the UCI is absolutely, factually,
without any effect on the world of cycling (unless it
were to attempt to influence the IOC, and that would
be nasty for the track and BMX racers).
Just think of it positively - there is no reason
at all to respect actions or decisions of the UCI.
Paris-Nice finished quite well, thanks.

Sandy, I won't discount your Federalism for your country. Pride is a
powerful elixir.
But this little coup will net the usual results.
We're all well aware how French Revolutions typically begin and end.
Besides, the French change their politics more often then they
change their skivvies.

Best of Luck & Regards - Mike Baldwin

Thanks for your generous try, but feel free to write in English next time.

Michael Baldwin said:

We're all well aware how French Revolutions typically begin and end.
Besides, the French change their politics more often then they change
their skivvies.

Ah but they have just beaten Sarko in the local elections . Socialists
taking Caen, Toulouse & Strasbourg etc.
;-)
Dan (un vieux soixante-huitard)

Kyle Legate said:

Quoted message said:

The French (I use that term loosely) are just using this to dig at the
US.  Everybody knows this but won't say it.

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Drollebak,

This has nothing to do with the US.

What the hell would this have to do with the US, other than we're a
party to the UCI. Maybe he thinks Johan and Astana are American? I
didn't notice ASO excluding any riders by nationality.
Freedom fries anyone?
Bill C
Haven't checked the weather there Kyle, but you've got to be riding,
or getting ready. I'd kill to trade places for a month, in a month.
Bill C

Cycling must find a way to empower the racers, they have the almost no
leverage anywhere. I'm not saying they're just victims- they have a
lot of responsibility for this crisis.

Cycling does need something like the UCI, but better in execution and
slightly more limited in scope.

Sandy, I thought you were pulling our legs at first. There is a huge
distance between ASO igniting an overthrow of UCI, and ASO acting to
reform the sport in the interests of the racers. I will not discount
that the racers may gain some collateral benefit in the end.

This affair is largely about ASO protecting its brands. If it could
make positive dope tests "go away," it would. And this move improves
the odds that it can.

This affair is NOT about ASO acting in the interests of the riders.
Also, it is not about ASO promoting the interests of the sport as a
whole; ASO promotes those interests only to the extent that ASO
promotes its own interests, while making all kinds of righteous-
sounding noise. It's all very...American, really.

Rereading yr post, Sandy, I think I misinterpreted it. To the extent
that you are saying that this is an opportunity for some reform, I
agree. I'd prefer a more orderly revolution, but I guess this is the
revolution we're afforded.

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Rereading yr post, Sandy, I think I misinterpreted it. To the extent
that you are saying that this is an opportunity for some reform, I
agree. I'd prefer a more orderly revolution, but I guess this is the
revolution we're afforded.

Thanks. Your first comment confounded me.

Bill C said:

Kyle Legate said:

Quoted message said:

The French (I use that term loosely) are just using this to dig at the
US.  Everybody knows this but won't say it.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Drollebak,

Quoted message said:

This has nothing to do with the US.

What the hell would this have to do with the US, other than we're a
party to the UCI. Maybe he thinks Johan and Astana are American? I
didn't notice ASO excluding any riders by nationality.
 Freedom fries anyone?

ASO doesn't want another American on the podium. Levi is a 'merkin and
he rides for Astana.

What are freedom fries? A type of WMD?

Bill C said:

Haven't checked the weather there Kyle, but you've got to be riding,
or getting ready. I'd kill to trade places for a month, in a month.
Bill C

Pissing rain and near freezing at the moment. We had no snow this year
so it was possible to ride all winter but unlike Kunich, I have a steady
and demanding job so there was no opportunity to get out during daylight
hours. Now that the days are getting longer I can start to get out a
bit, since I have nearly completely recovered from knee surgery a month
ago (tore my meniscus cartilage trying to start a light running regime).
I have a new front wheel coming in the mail and you know how new gear
can motivate.

Kyle Legate said:

I have a new front wheel coming in the mail and you know how new gear
can motivate.

If a new front wheel can motivate you a new Pinarello would super-motivate
you.

Kyle Legate said:

Bill C said:

Haven't checked the weather there Kyle, but you've got to be riding,
or getting ready. I'd kill to trade places for a month, in a month.
Bill C

Pissing rain and near freezing at the moment. We had no snow this year
so it was possible to ride all winter but unlike Kunich, I have a steady
and demanding job so there was no opportunity to get out during daylight
hours.

Yeah that working thing really screws up th training schedule. Have
to apply for a grant to Greg.
Weather sounds typical, as you say, should be getting better soon
though. Love that "German sunshine" (drizzle).
Now that the days are getting longer I can start to get out a

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bit, since I have nearly completely recovered from knee surgery a month
ago (tore my meniscus cartilage trying to start a light running regime).
I have a new front wheel coming in the mail and you know how new gear
can motivate.

Sorry to hear about the knee. Just take it easy with it, and don't
just ride through the pain, if any. Give it time to get right. I'm
looking forward too. Had my knee tuned up last thursday so I'm going
stir crazy here too.
Even Munich, and SAD aren't as bad when you can finally enjoy some
riding.
Hope you can make some time and enjoy it.
Bill C

Tom Kunich said:

Everything is in an uproar now because all sports.

Kuneyisland,

Just bring this into your local DMV and they will issue you a handicap
parking sticker, no questions asked.

Magilla