U-scan checkout

"notbob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Sheldon said:

still remember stacking up enough fresh salad fixings on my wopper to
qualify it as a very decent three person chefs salad.

Yeah, back when a Whopper cost $.52 (Nashville, '69)!

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And what was Minimum wage in '69?

The minimum wage went to $1.00 an hour effective February 1967 for newly covered
nonfarm workers, $1.15 in February 1968, $1.30 in February 1969, $1.45 in
February 1970, and $1.60 in February 1971. Increases for newly subject farm
workers stopped at $1.30. The 1966 amendments extended the fulltime student
certification program to covered agricultural employers and to institutions of
higher learning.

So about 24 minuets labor for a hamburger-

Dimitri

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Dimitri said:

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"djs0302" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> I went through the self serve checkout lane at the grocery store today
> and it didn't have enough change so it told me to get my change from
> the cashier who was suppose to be watching the U-scan lanes. Well I
> waited for someone to show up and when someone finally did she just put
> my change there on the counter instead of handing it to me. I said,
> "Gee thanks." and she said, "You're welcome." Apparently my sarcasm
> was wasted on her.
>

I refuse to use U-scan checkouts. It's just another job lost, poor though it
may be.
H

Labor saving - Job Killing Plans

1. ATM Kills Tellers No discount to the user
2. U-Scan checkouts No discount to the user
3. Self service Gas Discount to the user
4. Salad Bar No discount to the user

What else?

Dimitri

Dimitri, you hit my main objection on the head. If "I" do the work, "I" should get some
sort of discount. After all, the store isn't paying me wages, isn't paying taxes on my
wages, health insurance benefits, etc. I had an employee ask me to use the self check
U-scan once. My reply, "What kind of discount do I get for working for the store?"
"Er, none."
"I'll wait then."

Until I get a discount, I'm more than happy to interact with a real human being. I'll
continue to try to make them smile, and I'll happily inform them as to how I like my bags
packed. When I get offered a reasonable discount, say 10% off, I'll begin doing the work
for the store. Until I get a discount, the only one it is helping is the store.

I purposely choose a check-out line having good ogling material... when
those machines are built with Double D cleavage I may indulge.

Sheldon

Sheldon said:

I purposely choose a check-out line having good ogling material... when
those machines are built with Double D cleavage I may indulge.

Sheldon

To coin a phrase:

*plonk*

Cathy

cathyxyz said:

Sheldon said:

I purposely choose a check-out line having good ogling material... when
those machines are built with Double D cleavage I may indulge.

Sheldon

To coin a phrase:

*plonk*

Cathy

I suppose we can safely assume you're flat as a board, and possess no
sense of humor whatsoever... ya know, tiny perkies are very
attractive... now if only you can get someone to extract that thorny
bramble cane from your butt.

Merriam Webster

inferiority complex

noun
Date: 1922
1 : an acute sense of personal inferiority often resulting either in
timidity, ie. Cathy Complex, or through overcompensation in exaggerated
aggressiveness, ie. Pastorio Syndrome.

Sheldon

"Ranee Mueller" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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sf said:

Hairy said:

I refuse to use U-scan checkouts. It's just another job lost, poor
though
it
may be.

It's a lot slower for the customer too.

And I should get at least a 5% discount for doing someone else's job.

Regards,
Ranee

You cannot possibly think that a cashier earns anything like 5% of the
groceries going thru, can you?

--
Peter Aitken
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sf said:

On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 10:02:49 -0500, Hairy wrote:

> I refuse to use U-scan checkouts. It's just another job lost, poor
> though
> it
> may be.

It's a lot slower for the customer too.

And I should get at least a 5% discount for doing someone else's job.

Regards,
Ranee

You cannot possibly think that a cashier earns anything like 5% of the
groceries going thru, can you?

Not 5% of gross sales but certainly more than 5% of net profits...
check-out clerks represent a pretty hefty portion of a stupidmarket's
operational expense... and that's why management is doing all it can to
amelierate that cost through automation... same reason banks went to
ATMs and on-line banking rather than employ more tellers. Anyone can
still go back to the old fashioned full service grocery, still plenty
around, but they'd not like the price they'd have to pay to get waited
on hand and foot. And stupidmarkets do pass savings down to their
customers. To point, I do my main grocery shopping monthly at the big
impersonal stupidmarkets 25 miles away, but all month I do my fill-in
shopping at the local market in town. There all locals get greeted by
name, merchandise is retrieved if so desired, they'll even send a clerk
with the elderly/handicapped to wheel their cart up and down every
aisle, they really treat customers well. But they also charge a bit
more, for some items a lot more, like fresh produce costs about 30%
more but is definitely far better quality than from the big stores. In
fact I buy all my fresh fruit at the higher prices because it's always
excellent quality... what's the point of buying a big bag of say citrus
for cheaper only to find after schlepping it home it is dry and
tasteless pulp. Last big sack of grapefruit from the big stupidmarket
was inedible so ended up in the trash, couldn't even put it in the
composter because the acid from citrus screws up the decomposition
process. So now I buy things like citrus and most produce in town and
it is always great quality so I don't care that it costs a bit more...
and I do appreciate the old fashioned personal attention, like I
receive from the store butcher when he directs my attention to the
lovely chuck roasts he just put out, and how we both enjoy chatting
about how to cook a roast, the weather, or whatever... could be five
minutes or a half hour, pure pleasure.

Sheldon

"Ranee Mueller" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Peter Aitken said:

You cannot possibly think that a cashier earns anything like 5% of the
groceries going thru, can you?

No, but the cashier costs the company quite a bit, and if they get
rid of service, that also is something we pay for in the prices. Not to
mention that 5% of the price of the groceries is not even close to 5% of
their profit on them.

Regards,
Ranee

In theory the lower costs realized by installing u-scans will be reflected
in overall lower prices. I do not consider using them a chore that I should
be reimbursed for but rather a convenience that saves me time and hassles. I
am not sure I understand your last sentence but if you are thinking that
groceries make 5% profit on gross sales you are way off base. It's much
lower than that.

--
Peter Aitken
Visit my recipe and kitchen myths page at www.pgacon.com/cooking.htm

On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 16:51:53 -0500, zxcvbob <[email hidden]>

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You should see what happens if you try to buy a box of ammunition...

<snort!>

Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
AAC(F)BV66.0748.CA

"If the soup had been as hot as the claret, if the claret had been as
old as the bird, and if the bird's breasts had been as full as the
waitress's, it would have been a very good dinner."

-- Duncan Hines

To reply, replace "spaminator" with "cox"

Terry Pulliam Burd said:

On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 16:51:53 -0500, zxcvbob <[email hidden]>

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You should see what happens if you try to buy a box of ammunition...

<snort!>

Seriously, the machine goes nuts. I expected the checker girl to have
to come over and verify that I'm at least 21, but the machine couldn't
finish the transaction at all, not even when the checker girl was a
supervisor. We transferred everything (electronically; it didn't have
to be scanned again) to another register and finished up there.

Best regards,
Bob

Ranee Mueller said:

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Peter Aitken said:

In theory the lower costs realized by installing u-scans will be reflected
in overall lower prices.

In theory. In practice the prices do not change one whit. They get
savings from not having to have as many people working, and they keep
the difference. Again, I will not use them, I've used one once, and
have the hassle, the messed up machines, and not receive a discount.

Quoted message said:

I do not consider using them a chore that I should
be reimbursed for but rather a convenience that saves me time and hassles. I
am not sure I understand your last sentence but if you are thinking that
groceries make 5% profit on gross sales you are way off base. It's much
lower than that.

Then how do they make money? Are you telling me that if zucchini
costs $0.99 a pound here, it costs them $0.97 a pound? Or are you
saying that after they have paid their employees and their bills it's
closer to that? If it is the second, my point still stands. With fewer
employees, and specifically at a no employee point, I should get a
discount for doing their work.

You do receive a discount, a sizable discount if you shop intelligently
by purchasing as many of the myriad sale items as possible.
Stupidmarkets discount by *what* one buys, not by how many dollars one
spends... what makes you think you deserve a discount by dollar amount
spent... not for your $200 worth of beer and chips. And I'm not being
cute, my example is perfect... stupidmarket's inventory is so varied
that they can't justify discounting by how many dollars spent. And no
one is forcing anyone to shop at any store, not happy with a store's
discount policy, or anything, shop elsewhere.

Competition is mostly what holds prices down. U-scanits are not
necessarily to keep costs down... decent checkout employees have become
exceedingly more difficult to locate. The machines may even cost more
dollars than check-out employees but the machines are there everyday
and they don't [censored] and moan.

Get used to it, won't be long U-Checkits will be as ubiquitous as
ATMs... soon the check-out clerk will not exist at all

I'm an ATM virgin, I've yet to use one. And I truly enjoy the few
minutes I spend chit-chatting with the check-out clerk, but what am I
to do if the clerks and cash become obsolete... I'll have to adapt to
the times... hey, I can still remember like it was yesterday when first
class mail needed a 3¢ stamp and all banks had passbook savings
accounts. The local small town bank I now use still offers passbook
savings so that's what I chose... I kinda like how it's very private,
never shows up on my monthly statement along with checking and money
market, if I need to know my balance I just open my little bank book.

Sheldon

Peter Aitken said:

"Ranee Mueller" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Peter Aitken said:

You cannot possibly think that a cashier earns anything like 5% of the
groceries going thru, can you?

No, but the cashier costs the company quite a bit, and if they get
rid of service, that also is something we pay for in the prices. Not to
mention that 5% of the price of the groceries is not even close to 5% of
their profit on them.

Regards,
Ranee

In theory the lower costs realized by installing u-scans will be reflected
in overall lower prices. I do not consider using them a chore that I should
be reimbursed for but rather a convenience that saves me time and hassles. I
am not sure I understand your last sentence but if you are thinking that
groceries make 5% profit on gross sales you are way off base. It's much
lower than that.

I used to work for a major grocery store chain when I was in college
and we were told during orientation that the store keeps 1 penny out of
every dollar it takes in. The rest goes to things like employees'
salaries, rent, utilities, insurance, operating costs, etc. We were
told that the customer paid our salary. My answer to that was well, I
pay their salary. I may not pay it directly but in a way no matter
what job you have we all pay each others salaries.

Wayne Boatwright said:

Here in AZ, southeast of Phoenix, it's legal and quite common to carry
exposed handguns. I'm sure that would add its own element of excitement to
the purchase!

Wayne, where SE of Phoenix are you? I'm from Douglas.

Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
AAC(F)BV66.0748.CA

"If the soup had been as hot as the claret, if the claret had been as
old as the bird, and if the bird's breasts had been as full as the
waitress's, it would have been a very good dinner."

-- Duncan Hines

To reply, replace "spaminator" with "cox"

On Wed 15 Jun 2005 08:35:10p, Terry Pulliam Burd wrote in
rec.food.cooking:

Quoted message said:

Wayne Boatwright said:

Here in AZ, southeast of Phoenix, it's legal and quite common to carry
exposed handguns. I'm sure that would add its own element of excitement
to the purchase!

Wayne, where SE of Phoenix are you? I'm from Douglas.

Terry, I'm nowhere near as far from Phoenix as Douglas. We live in Apache
Junction, and before that, in Queen Creek. We not Arizona natives, though,
as we moved here from NE Ohio. I always say SE of Phoenix because if I just
say Phoenix, people seem to think I live in the city.

--
Wayne Boatwright *¿*
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djs0302 said:

I went through the self serve checkout lane at the grocery store today
and it didn't have enough change so it told me to get my change from
the cashier who was suppose to be watching the U-scan lanes. Well I
waited for someone to show up and when someone finally did she just put
my change there on the counter instead of handing it to me. I said,
"Gee thanks." and she said, "You're welcome." Apparently my sarcasm
was wasted on her.

Life is so hard!

Sheldon wrote:
<snip>
ith a store's

Quoted message said:

discount policy, or anything, shop elsewhere.

Competition is mostly what holds prices down. U-scanits are not
necessarily to keep costs down... decent checkout employees have become
exceedingly more difficult to locate. The machines may even cost more
dollars than check-out employees but the machines are there everyday
and they don't [censored] and moan.

And they don't mess up orders, don't give away free food to their
buddies and don't damage produce. I'd much rather scan and bag my
groceries myself - especially when the other check-out lines are long.
Pople seem to be afraid of the U-scan lines. But I only do it at
stores where I know the prices scan correctly most of the time.

-L.