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  1. ekstrabladet.dkVisArtikel.iasp (DANISH!)

    My own translation...

    *************************
    "I've said that I will wait on till the end of the race (to sign CSC). It's best for me to clear my
    head for all the things that's not to do with TDF."

    "I left USP, because Bjarne Riss was a good opportunity for me and because I needed a career change
    after several years on the same team."

    "But I won't go into if I need the same change now. I will concentrate on TDF."
    *************************

    As a CSC-fan, I don't like the last sentence. What is he up to?

    Mr.Big

  2. Quoted post said:

    Originally posted by Kristian Slot
    ekstrabladet.dkVisArtikel.iasp (DANISH!)

    My own translation...

    *************************
    "I've said that I will wait on till the end of the race (to sign CSC). It's best for me to clear my
    head for all the things that's not to do with TDF."

    "I left USP, because Bjarne Riss was a good opportunity for me and because I needed a career change
    after several years on the same team."

    "But I won't go into if I need the same change now. I will concentrate on TDF."
    *************************

    As a CSC-fan, I don't like the last sentence. What is he up to?

    Mr.Big

    I think that Hamilton has a right to test the waters. First, with his collerbone injury and the subsequent ride he is giving CSC more publicity than they could dream of. He is giving CSC and Rijs plenty. Clearly, Hamilton is one of the strongest riders today. If he was healthy I think he could win the Tour. Given that he may as well try and get as much money as he can. Hamilton suffers and he deserves to be paid. Lastly, there is no guarentee that Lance rides next year. He may win in medicore form and then retire, or he may lose and retire. If Lance retires than Hamilton would be his natural replacement on USPS (Heras might be upset). I am not suggesting that Lance will retire, but it is possible and Hamilton might know as well as anyone if Lance was going to retire.

  3. "Kristian slot" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    ekstrabladet.dkVisArtikel.iasp (DANISH!)

    My own translation...

    *************************
    "I've said that I will wait on till the end of the race (to sign CSC).


    It's

    Quoted message said:

    best for me to clear my head for all the things that's not to do with


    TDF."

    Quoted message said:


    "I left USP, because Bjarne Riss was a good opportunity for me and because


    I

    Quoted message said:

    needed a career change after several years on the same team."

    "But I won't go into if I need the same change now. I will concentrate on TDF."
    *************************

    As a CSC-fan, I don't like the last sentence. What is he up to?

    Mr.Big

    I would not seat it at all. I would assume that in addition to wonting to concentrate on the race,
    he is probably concerned that he should evaluate his market value when he is thinking with a clear
    head. It could be that CSC is trying to get him signed before he realizes that his market value has
    skyrocketed during the Tour. IOW, he may just want a better salary.

  4. Quoted message said:

    "But I won't go into if I need the same change now. I will concentrate on TDF."

    lance retires at the end of the year and tyler comes in and replaces him on postal..it could happen

  5. I think at this point Tyler can pretty much write his own check with any team he wants. I'm hoping
    he stays with Riis, and keeps his salary reasonable so they can sign stronger support riders. Bill C

  6. "Glhudson1" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    "But I won't go into if I need the same change now. I will concentrate on TDF."

    lance retires at the end of the year and tyler comes in and replaces him


    on

    Quoted message said:

    postal..it could happen

    Why are so many people assuming that Tyler would want to go to USPS? I would not. I suppose if he
    does, it would indicate that the alignment if nationalities in cycling teams has some premium value.

  7. "Nick Burns" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

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    "Glhudson1" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    "But I won't go into if I need the same change now. I will concentrate


    on

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    Quoted message said:
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    TDF."

    lance retires at the end of the year and tyler comes in and replaces him


    on

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    postal..it could happen

    Why are so many people assuming that Tyler would want to go to USPS? I


    would

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    not.

    This is not like picking which local club team to join.

    A racer's prime earning years are few. Money talks, [censored] walks.

  8. People just keep walking all over Bjarne.

    Tyler should repay the faith Riis has shown in him.

    "Nick Burns" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "Kristian slot" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    ekstrabladet.dkVisArtikel.iasp (DANISH!)

    My own translation...

    *************************
    "I've said that I will wait on till the end of the race (to sign CSC).


    It's

    Quoted message said:

    best for me to clear my head for all the things that's not to do with


    TDF."

    Quoted message said:


    "I left USP, because Bjarne Riss was a good opportunity for me and


    because

    Quoted message said:

    I

    Quoted message said:

    needed a career change after several years on the same team."

    "But I won't go into if I need the same change now. I will concentrate


    on

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    TDF."
    *************************

    As a CSC-fan, I don't like the last sentence. What is he up to?

    Mr.Big

    I would not seat it at all. I would assume that in addition to wonting to concentrate on the race,
    he is probably concerned that he should evaluate his market value when he is thinking with a clear
    head. It could be that


    CSC

    Quoted message said:

    is trying to get him signed before he realizes that his market value has skyrocketed during the
    Tour. IOW, he may just want a better salary.

  9. "Nick Burns" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    "Glhudson1" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    "But I won't go into if I need the same change now. I will concentrate


    on

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    TDF."

    lance retires at the end of the year and tyler comes in and replaces him


    on

    Quoted message said:

    postal..it could happen

    Why are so many people assuming that Tyler would want to go to USPS? I


    would

    Quoted message said:

    not. I suppose if he does, it would indicate that the alignment if nationalities in cycling teams
    has some premium value.

    Why would Tyler go to USPS.........USPS only has one year left of it's contract........ US Postal
    will be out of sponsoring anybody then..........

  10. I think that if Lance retires so does the Postal Team.

    "lazysegall" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Kristian Slot said:


    http://ekstrabladet-" rel="ugc nofollow noopener">ekstrabladet.dkVisArtikel.iasp

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    .dk/VisArtikel.iasp?PageID=211112 (DANISH!) My own translation...
    *************************
    "I've said that I will wait on till the end of the race (to sign CSC). It's best for me to
    clear my head for all the things that's not to do with TDF." "I left USP, because Bjarne Riss
    was a good opportunity for me and because I needed a career change after several years on the
    same


    team."

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    "But I won't go into if I need the same change now. I will concentrate on TDF."
    *************************
    As a CSC-fan, I don't like the last sentence. What is he up to?
    Mr.Big

    I think that Hamilton has a right to test the waters. First, with his collerbone injury and the
    subsequent ride he is giving CSC more publicity than they could dream of. He is giving CSC and
    Rijs plenty. Clearly, Hamilton is one of the strongest riders today. If he was healthy I think he
    could win the Tour. Given that he may as well try and get as much money as he can. Hamilton
    suffers and he deserves to be paid. Lastly, there is no guarentee that Lance rides next year. He
    may win in medicore form and then retire, or he may lose and retire. If Lance retires than
    Hamilton would be his natural replacement on USPS (Heras might be upset). I am not suggesting that
    Lance will retire, but it is possible and Hamilton might know as well as anyone if Lance was going
    to retire.

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  11. "Just a Cyclist" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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    "Nick Burns" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "Glhudson1" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    >"But I won't go into if I need the same change now. I will


    concentrate

    Quoted message said:

    on

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >TDF."

    lance retires at the end of the year and tyler comes in and replaces


    him

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    on

    Quoted message said:

    postal..it could happen

    Why are so many people assuming that Tyler would want to go to USPS? I


    would

    Quoted message said:

    not. I suppose if he does, it would indicate that the alignment if nationalities in cycling
    teams has some premium value.

    Why would Tyler go to USPS.........USPS only has one year left of it's contract........ US Postal
    will be out of sponsoring anybody


    then..........

    He'll go where they offer the most money.

    A rider like he can get a job the next year, no problem.

  12. "armstrong" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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    I think that if Lance retires so does the Postal Team.

    That might be why Gorski bailed on Tailwind Sports and the team last month.

  13. "Just a Cyclist" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    "Nick Burns" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

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    "Glhudson1" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    >"But I won't go into if I need the same change now. I will concentrate


    on

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >TDF."

    lance retires at the end of the year and tyler comes in and replaces him


    on

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    postal..it could happen

    Why are so many people assuming that Tyler would want to go to USPS? I


    would

    Quoted message said:

    not. I suppose if he does, it would indicate that the alignment if nationalities in cycling
    teams has some premium value.

    Why would Tyler go to USPS.........USPS only has one year left of it's contract........ US Postal
    will be out of sponsoring anybody then..........

    Quoted message said:


    Simple answer why he'd go to USPS from CSC. $1 USD = 6.61 Danish Krone. He's currently paid in
    Danish Krone. Postal would pay him in US Dollars.

    Also, after 9/11, patriotism has an increased value than it used to, I think.

    Regards,

    Joe

  14. Quoted post said:

    Originally posted by Joe Hurley
    "Just a Cyclist" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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    "Nick Burns" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

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    "Glhudson1" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    >"But I won't go into if I need the same change now. I will concentrate


    on

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >TDF."

    lance retires at the end of the year and tyler comes in and replaces him


    on

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    postal..it could happen

    Why are so many people assuming that Tyler would want to go to USPS? I


    would

    Quoted message said:

    not. I suppose if he does, it would indicate that the alignment if nationalities in cycling
    teams has some premium value.

    Why would Tyler go to USPS.........USPS only has one year left of it's contract........ US Postal
    will be out of sponsoring anybody then..........

    Quoted message said:




    Simple answer why he'd go to USPS from CSC. $1 USD = 6.61 Danish Krone. He's currently paid in
    Danish Krone. Postal would pay him in US Dollars.

    Also, after 9/11, patriotism has an increased value than it used to, I think.

    Regards,

    Joe

    First the conversion thing is rather stupid. If they pay him 6.61 times the Krones then it doesn;t matter. French Soccer players used to play in Italy when it was how many thousand lira to the Franc. I think the reason that tyler might go to USPS or another US replacement team is that a US company will not sponser cycling without a US leader. Tyler is the second best american cyclist and he would be the best if Lance retires. If a US team continues at the top level post armstrong then Tyler will be the natural team leader. That American team will be paying him not only because he is good, but also because he is American. Patriotism might play a small roll as well. If Armstrong does not retire I think Hamilton would stay with CSC...Very few other teams have the money to sign a rider of his caliber. Telekom certainly, but Vino and Botero are more than enough leaders. I suppose Once, but there are lots of Spainish riders. So expect Hamilton to be on one of two teams next year.

  15. "Joe Hurley" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "Just a Cyclist" <[email hidden]> wrote in message


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    "Nick Burns" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "Glhudson1" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    > >"But I won't go into if I need the same change now. I will


    concentrate

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    Quoted message said:

    on

    Quoted message said:

    > >TDF."
    >
    > lance retires at the end of the year and tyler comes in and replaces


    him

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    on

    Quoted message said:

    > postal..it could happen

    Why are so many people assuming that Tyler would want to go to USPS? I


    would

    Quoted message said:

    not. I suppose if he does, it would indicate that the alignment if nationalities in cycling
    teams has some premium value.

    Why would Tyler go to USPS.........USPS only has one year left of it's contract........ US
    Postal will be out of sponsoring anybody


    then..........

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
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    Simple answer why he'd go to USPS from CSC. $1 USD = 6.61 Danish Krone. He's currently paid in
    Danish Krone. Postal would pay him in US Dollars.

    Also, after 9/11, patriotism has an increased value than it used to, I think.

    Patriotism? Only if you get paid more.

  16. "lazysegall" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    First the conversion thing is rather stupid. If they pay him 6.61 times the Krones then it
    doesn;t matter.

    <snip>

    Hey Dumbass -

    The dollar has been declining in value against other currencies. For overseas workers who bring
    their salary back here that means their salary is shrinking.

  17. Joe Hurley said:
    Quoted message said:

    Simple answer why he'd go to USPS from CSC. $1 USD = 6.61 Danish Krone. He's currently paid in
    Danish Krone. Postal would pay him in US Dollars.

  18. "Carl Sundquist" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "armstrong" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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    I think that if Lance retires so does the Postal Team.

    That might be why Gorski bailed on Tailwind Sports and the team last


    month.

    Quoted message said:

    That and the constant heat the postal service is getting for sinking millions into the team and yet
    they are losing money every year.

  19. Kurgan Gringioni said:


    "lazysegall" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    First the conversion thing is rather stupid. If they pay him 6.61 times the Krones then it
    doesn;t matter.

    <snip>

    Hey Dumbass -

    The dollar has been declining in value against other currencies. For overseas workers who bring
    their salary back here that means their salary is shrinking.

    That means he'll get more dollars for each krone, since a dollar is "worth less." Maybe "more
    dollars" will allow him to buy just as many actual goods/services here in the states, or even more
    if the "declining value" is greater than the domestic inflation rate. Maybe Tyler's financial
    advisor is also versed in currency speculation. How would you know?

  20. "Joe Hurley" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "Just a Cyclist" <[email hidden]> wrote in message


    news:<[email hidden]>...

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    "Nick Burns" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "Glhudson1" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    > >"But I won't go into if I need the same change now. I will


    concentrate

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    Quoted message said:

    on

    Quoted message said:

    > >TDF."
    >
    > lance retires at the end of the year and tyler comes in and replaces


    him

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    on

    Quoted message said:

    > postal..it could happen

    Why are so many people assuming that Tyler would want to go to USPS? I


    would

    Quoted message said:

    not. I suppose if he does, it would indicate that the alignment if nationalities in cycling
    teams has some premium value.

    Why would Tyler go to USPS.........USPS only has one year left of it's contract........ US
    Postal will be out of sponsoring anybody


    then..........

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    Simple answer why he'd go to USPS from CSC. $1 USD = 6.61 Danish Krone. He's currently paid in
    Danish Krone. Postal would pay him in US Dollars.

    What the hell? OK, so 2 years ago he did not mind simply changing currency when he needed to and now
    he does? Another point is that you are assuming he is not paid in USD. This is not hard to
    negociate. The whole statement makes no sense.

    Quoted message said:


    Also, after 9/11, patriotism has an increased value than it used to, I think.

    Regards,

    Joe

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