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Tyler Hamilton...guilty by transfusion?

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  1. This from the A.P. Hamilton could be stripped of gold medal

    " Olympic time-trial cycling champion Tyler Hamilton of the United States has apparently failed tests designed to detect a form of performance-enhancing blood transfusions. "

    This is sad...As much press as Armstrong gets for doping and no one expected Hamilton to try something....underhanded....

  2. The jury is still out on this one. I have seen conflicting reports, some state the test found foreign RBC's, other reports state they found evidence of autologous blood doping.

    I would say this is a false positive. The test is way too new to rule out a false positive.

  3. Weisse Luft said:

    The jury is still out on this one. I have seen conflicting reports, some state the test found foreign RBC's, other reports state they found evidence of autologous blood doping.

    I would say this is a false positive. The test is way too new to rule out a false positive.

    I think the foreign red blood cells is the same as teh autologous blood doping...homologous would be Hamilton using his own blood to bank and retransfuse... I think.

  4. Brunswick_kate said:

    I think the foreign red blood cells is the same as teh autologous blood doping...homologous would be Hamilton using his own blood to bank and retransfuse... I think.

    Either way, I'm a fan of the guy, and I hope it's not true. If he can't be vindicated, it's very, very disappointing.

  5. lokstah said:

    Either way, I'm a fan of the guy, and I hope it's not true. If he can't be vindicated, it's very, very disappointing.

    You and me both..I'm going to take the position of innocent until proven guilty

  6. Hmmm. Well, according to cyclingnews:

    Quoted post said:

    The method of doping via blood transfusions has been partially addressed by the new tests. Dr Zorzoli confirmed that homologous blood transfusions are now detectable, but auto-transfusions are not. Thus, there is still a [censored] in the armour of the UCI's anti-doping combat machine. One which will surely be exploited until it can be securely plugged.

    Is the assumption, then, that Hamilton failed a homologous test, and not a autotransufsion test?

  7. Brunswick_kate said:

    I think the foreign red blood cells is the same as teh autologous blood doping...homologous would be Hamilton using his own blood to bank and retransfuse... I think.

    The other way around, according to the latest cyclingnews article. Confusing terminology.

    Hamilton sounded pretty sincere in his press conference. He gets the benefit of the doubt for now.

    I've met him, rode with him; great guy... he's the closest thing I have to a cycling hero these days.

    * sigh *

  8. lokstah said:

    The other way around, according to the latest cyclingnews article. Confusing terminology.

    Hamilton sounded pretty sincere in his press conference. He gets the benefit of the doubt for now.

    I've met him, rode with him; great guy... he's the closest thing I have to a cycling hero these days.

    * sigh *


    yes...confusing terminology...

    Autologous: Transfusion of blood from the same individual.
    Homologous: Transfusion of blood from another individual of the same species.
    Heterologous: Transfusion of blood from another species.

    ***

    Gee, the things we learn at the sports boards.

  9. Well goody...Tyler keeps gold medal...I'm still torn over this one....

  10. zapper said:

    Well goody...Tyler keeps gold medal...I'm still torn over this one....

    The whole thing's so darn muddy.

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