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I just remembered - Bernard Levin.

That's the guy who could fill two thirds of a side of broadsheet without saying very much at all!

Anyone here remember Face The Music? Levin was a pillock on that, as well.
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There is a bit of a joint effort on this one but it seems a wee bit off completion of the round yet
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Tryfan, An Teallach, Forcan Ridge, (done in very thick mist - just as well as my mate hates
heights!!) Beinn Alligin (In a gale so strong the very rocks themselves were rattling, sounded like
trapped plastic bags snapping in the wind. The only time I have had to hold on to the ground for
dear life!!) Beinn Dearg, for the views of all the other Torridon hills The Cobbler, Beinn Ime, a
miserable little hill behind The Cobbler, only included because after a rain soaked ascent in low
cloud the weather cleared just as we got to the top to reveal a magnificent view down to a sunny
Inveraray in the distance. Helvellyn, for the decidely dodgy descent onto Striding Edge in thick
snow. Had to kick steps and punch hand holds in the snow to get onto the ridge. Crib Goch, for the
fantastically exposed feeling you get as Tornados fly below you feet.

Have a good Christmas!!

Dave.

You forgot Am Faochagach :-)

Ben Ime rocks BTW.... Beinn Luibhaean is of course even better!

Richard Webb

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Dawson and Hewitt are about to publish their excellent Graham Tops work,

How 'about to' are we talking?

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In article <[email hidden]>, Jim Ford

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Yes that's the one, and for the record AFAIK Storey Arms was named after Mr Storey (or Story)- a
house - never a pub. Deceiptful sods.

I have failed, even Google has failed to come up with the History of the place.

This landmark on the A470's high point through the Brecon Beacons was named after landowner Story
Maskelyne and, as you say Bill, it was never, as its name implies, an inn. The title was "borrowed"
from licensed premises once situated further along the old Brecon - Merthyr turnpike at Pont ar Daf,
no traces can be found on the ground now but I have seen somewhere (but I cannot for the life of me
remember where) a very old photo of the ruins.

Would you believe that there is a review in "The Off-Roaders Pub & Grub Guide"
tinyurl.com2s7qhOpen ↗ from which it would appear that the pub is still alive and kicking! (Just
goes to prove that you cannot believe everything you read on the internet).

Gwyn

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On the same trip that this happened to me, we ended a *long* day's walk at Sennybridge with the
intention of getting a bus to our destination - and discovered that the place was served by no
public transport of any description!

Buses? North of the Beacons? Where on earth did you get the idea there'd be buses up there?

Paul

I think we assumed from the size of the place on the map!

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RJ Webb wrote :

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Dawson and Hewitt are about to publish their excellent Graham Tops work,

How 'about to' are we talking?

May be out now.. They are advertising it in the latest TAC

Richard Webb

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In article <[email hidden]>, Jim Ford

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Yes that's the one, and for the record AFAIK Storey Arms was named after Mr Storey (or Story)- a
house - never a pub. Deceiptful sods.

I have failed, even Google has failed to come up with the History of the place.

This landmark on the A470's high point through the Brecon Beacons was named after landowner Story
Maskelyne and, as you say Bill, it was never, as its name implies, an inn. The title was "borrowed"
from licensed premises once situated further along the old Brecon - Merthyr turnpike at Pont ar
Daf, no traces can be found on the ground now but I have seen somewhere (but I cannot for the life
of me remember where) a very old photo of the ruins.

Would you believe that there is a review in "The Off-Roaders Pub & Grub Guide"
tinyurl.com2s7qhOpen ↗ from which it would appear that the pub is still alive and kicking! (Just
goes to prove that you cannot believe everything you read on the internet).

How odd!

Have you come across the temperance pub (Cross Keys?) near the Howgills? Isn't life strange?

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Dawson and Hewitt are about to publish their excellent Graham Tops work,

How 'about to' are we talking?

May be out now.. They are advertising it in the latest TAC

Must have missed that. Best of luck with the move.

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Have you come across the temperance pub

Is it as aptly named as The Moderation in Reading, a pub where moderation is seldom in evidence?

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Bernie Hughes said:

RJ Webb wrote :

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Dawson and Hewitt are about to publish their excellent Graham Tops work,

How 'about to' are we talking?

May be out now.. They are advertising it in the latest TAC

Cheque's in the post to Tac. I can hardly wait.

Bernie

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Yes, at Cautley, and meeting some walkers who had rushed to get there before lunch time closing
only to be disappointed. What is strange is that it continues as a temperance hotel. You can still
get non-alcoholic refreshments there.

Their teas are awesome..

Great cakes.... well worth a visit.

Richard Webb

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Is that the one to the West of Pen-y-Fan?

Yep.

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If so, the route's burnt into my memory. Mountain experts warn about the dangers of hypothermia,
falls, bogs, rivers, starvation, rockslides avalanches etc. whilst on the hills but they don't
warn of one of the worst fates - the one where you stagger off the hill with your tongue hanging
out with thirst, heading for a place marked on the map as 'Story Arms' expecting slake your thirst
on a nice pint of bitter (OK, it'd be Welsh bitter, but any port in a storm!).

Welsh bitter? Who on earth drinks that stuff? You aren't seriously telling me that people come all
the way from England to a Welsh pub and then choose bitter, are you? They do sell other drinks in
Welsh pubs you know! I think I first tried Welsh bitter when I was about 16. Last time too.

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Paul Saunders said:

Jim Ford said:

Is that the one to the West of Pen-y-Fan?

Yep.

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If so, the route's burnt into my memory. Mountain experts warn about the dangers of hypothermia,
falls, bogs, rivers, starvation, rockslides avalanches etc. whilst on the hills but they don't
warn of one of the worst fates - the one where you stagger off the hill with your tongue hanging
out with thirst, heading for a place marked on the map as 'Story Arms' expecting slake your
thirst on a nice pint of bitter (OK, it'd be Welsh bitter, but any port in a storm!).

Welsh bitter? Who on earth drinks that stuff? You aren't seriously telling me that people come all
the way from England to a Welsh pub and then choose bitter, are you? They do sell other drinks in
Welsh pubs you know!

Like what? Watermelon Baccardi Breezer?

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I think I first tried Welsh bitter when I was about 16. Last time too.

Oi!

Brains is drinkable and what was that stuff we drained the barrel of in Pencelli?

...googling...

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Welsh bitter? Who on earth drinks that stuff? You aren't seriously telling me that people come all
the way from England to a Welsh pub and then choose bitter, are you? They do sell other drinks in
Welsh pubs you know! I think I first tried Welsh bitter when I was about 16. Last time too.

Paul

I quite enjoy a pint of Double Vision, from the Feeling Foul brewery.

Richard Webb

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Welsh bitter? Who on earth drinks that stuff?

It's a generation thing. I drink lager (-:

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Paul Saunders said:

Welsh bitter? Who on earth drinks that stuff?

When I used to live in London and go drinking at the odd (okay, several) free houses in the Holborn
area with, amongst others, a Welshman of small stature (affectionately known as LWB, translation
left as an exercise), we always made a point of having a round of Felinfoel (spelling a completely
wild guess). And very nice it usually was, too. First had some at a Beer Festival in Bristol -
although it is a major miracle I can remember that.

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Paul Rooney said:

It's a generation thing. I drink lager (-:

Always been a guinness man myself. Newcastle Brown tonight for a change though.

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Phil Cook said:

Like what? Watermelon Baccardi Breezer?

Lagers, guinness, real ales.

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I think I first tried Welsh bitter when I was about 16. Last time too.

Oi!

I don't really know which bitter it was that I first tried, but I didn't like it.

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Brains is drinkable and what was that stuff we drained the barrel of in Pencelli?

Don't know, but it couldn't have been Brains if I was drinking it. No idea what I was
drinking in fact.

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Okay then, since you brought it up.

"Today, Cardiff and Swansea are vibrant towns"

Yeah right! In the next few hours my house will be vibrating in sync with the roar of passing
joyriders and the endless whirr of the police helicopter stalking them (always seems to hover right
above my house).

Oh, and I've just realised why there are so many speed cameras in Swansea now, it's not to catch
the humble motorist doing 37mph, it's to gather photographic evidence on all the joyriders.
There's hardly a decent straight road to joyride along where you won't be captured on camera
nowadays. I think I once heard that Swansea is the worst city in Britain for car theft, excluding
London of course.

Vibrant town my [censored]! If vibrant means that crime has now reached the minimum level to qualify as
the kind of place I have no desire to live in anymore then yes, Swansea is now a vibrant town, and
all the worse for it. Sod all these new developments, how about sorting out the road system? It's so
clogged with traffic these days it's a real pain to drive around. Southampton had a much better road
layout. The sooner I get out (and stay out) of Swansea the better!

"Though the Welsh language is not spoken much in southern Wales"

Yes it is, just not in the Swansea - Cardiff - Newport urban sprawls. It's often spoken in the upper
Swansea valley and is rampant just west of Swansea, from Loughor through Llanelli westwards, as it
is in Carmarthen and northern Pembrokeshire. Not in Brecon though, that's been well anglicised. And
"the valleys" have their very own dialect, christened Wenglish by someone or other who wrote a few
hilarious books explaining it.

"You wouldn't be caught dead drinking Brain's in Swansea,"

Ah! I wonder why that is...

Paul
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John Laird said:

Welshman of small stature (affectionately known as LWB, translation left as an exercise),

Little Welsh Bugger/[censored]?

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we always made a point of having a round of Felinfoel (spelling a completely wild guess).

Correct. Mill of the Bare Hill. Or Hill Mill.

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