Two years for Santi Perez

matabala said:

Santi Perez gets two year suspension from the Spanish cycling federation.
That bike shop in Marblehead looking more and more like a strong
possibility.

Hey douchhebag,

The Spanish Cycling Federation doesn't have the scientific expertise to
evaluate the blood doping test. It means nothing to the Hamilton case,
which will be heard by the Court of Arbitration for Sport on Tuesday and
Wednesday of this week.

Magilla

MagillaGorilla said:

The Spanish Cycling Federation doesn't have the scientific expertise
to evaluate the blood doping test.

That invites two questions: why not, and who does?

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Ewoud Dronkert said:

MagillaGorilla said:

The Spanish Cycling Federation doesn't have the scientific expertise
to evaluate the blood doping test.

That invites two questions: why not, and who does?

Because unlike the USA, Spain doesn't have its own USADA. Instead, the
Spanish federation simply relied on the UCI test results. So its
conclusion was self-serving and meaningless. Apparently, Spain doesn't
believe in an adversarial form of due process. Santi also probably had
an idiot Spanish lawyer whose only defense was "my client is innocent."

Tyler's experts will have an opportunity to convince the CAS otherwise.

Magilla

Ewoud Dronkert said:

MagillaGorilla said:

The Spanish Cycling Federation doesn't have the scientific expertise
to evaluate the blood doping test.

That invites two questions: why not, and who does?

Porque los espanoles no pueden comprar la inocencia?
:-)
Dan Gregory

matabala said:

"MagillaGorilla" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Ewoud Dronkert said:

On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 12:34:47 -0500, MagillaGorilla wrote:

>The Spanish Cycling Federation doesn't have the scientific expertise
>to evaluate the blood doping test.

That invites two questions: why not, and who does?

Because unlike the USA, Spain doesn't have its own USADA. Instead, the
Spanish federation simply relied on the UCI test results. So its
conclusion was self-serving and meaningless. Apparently, Spain doesn't
believe in an adversarial form of due process. Santi also probably had an
idiot Spanish lawyer whose only defense was "my client is innocent."

Tyler's experts will have an opportunity to convince the CAS otherwise.

Magilla

So by your definition of due process it's only those adversarial experts who
possess the scientific expertise? Welcome to my jurisprudence jungle, says
the Big Ape.

MY DEFINITION? Go to your local courthouse and sit in on any trial,
dumbass.

But to answer your question, no. It's only after hearing adversarial
experts should a sanctioning body make a decision. I didn't say Tyler's
experts were correct, dumbass. But you need to at least hear from them
and not just WADA/UCI experts.

That's how the court system works, stupid. Didn't you pay attention in
social studies in 4th grade?

Magilla

Tim Lines said:

MagillaGorilla said:

Santi also probably had an idiot Spanish lawyer whose only defense was
"my client is innocent."

This is precisely the same defense that TH has advanced in his public
statements, albeit without the idiot Spanish lawyer to spout it on his
behalf.

Hey dumbass,

Tyler has advanced no such defense in public.

Do you really think Tyler (or the press) would print 50 pages of
scientific counter-evidence? And second, do you think Tyler would be
able to give such detailed information in an interview with a reporter?

Try thinking before you post next time.

Thanks,

Magilla

Tim Lines said:

MagillaGorilla said:

Tim Lines said:

MagillaGorilla wrote:

> Santi also probably had an idiot Spanish lawyer whose only defense
> was "my client is innocent."
>

This is precisely the same defense that TH has advanced in his public
statements, albeit without the idiot Spanish lawyer to spout it on
his behalf.

Hey dumbass,

Tyler has advanced no such defense in public.

Hey dumbass,

He certainly HAS claimed innocence.

Quoted message said:

Do you really think Tyler (or the press) would print 50 pages of
scientific counter-evidence? And second, do you think Tyler would be
able to give such detailed information in an interview with a reporter?

Try thinking before you post next time.

Same to you.

Do you know how to read? If so, then try to do that when you respond
next time.

Thanks,

Magilla

Dear uninformed idiot,

Tyler spent a lot of time and effort attempting to maintain his
innocence. Established a web site, did interviews, got his wife
invovlved, swore on his dead dogs grave. It was all incoherent
rambling. "I'm innocent, we have scientists who say elements of the
test are bogus, I'm no scientist so I don't understand what they're
saying but believe me, I'm just innocent even though I can't explain why
I have 3 positive results." Then someone told him to shut up because he
was convincing more people of his guilt than of his innocence. So he did.

Now it's your turn to make like Tyler and shut up until you have
something coherent to say.

MagillaGorilla said:

Ewoud Dronkert said:

MagillaGorilla said:

The Spanish Cycling Federation doesn't have the scientific expertise
to evaluate the blood doping test.

That invites two questions: why not, and who does?

Because unlike the USA, Spain doesn't have its own USADA. Instead, the

It's unlikely that the SPanish anti-doping federation would have a US
prefix anyway...

MagillaGorilla said:

Because unlike the USA, Spain doesn't have its own USADA.

Of course it has. From the WADA website: "Comisión Nacional Antidopaje
(CNAD)." It is governed by the sports advisory board of the ministery of
science and education, and has no website of its own.

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Ewoud Dronkert said:

MagillaGorilla said:

Because unlike the USA, Spain doesn't have its own USADA.

Of course it has. From the WADA website: "Comisión Nacional Antidopaje
(CNAD)." It is governed by the sports advisory board of the ministery of
science and education, and has no website of its own.

no website = unprofessional

MagillaGorilla said:

Quoted message said:

From the WADA website: "Comisión Nacional Antidopaje
(CNAD)." It is governed by the sports advisory board of the ministery
of science and education, and has no website of its own.

no website = unprofessional

It is not a commercial organization that depends on easy interaction
with public or customers. All rules and regulations are found on a
dedicated section of the ministerial website.

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