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  1. Earlier this week, around dusk, a parking motorist flung his door open at
    the very second I passed his car. I take care to ride outside the door
    zone, but he had a two-door with long doors and had parked none to close
    to the curb, so he really caught my attention (although not my
    handlebars). This was a street with a well marked bike lane, so he had
    extra reason to be aware of cyclists. I circled back to explain to him,
    quite politely, how dangerous that was, and I received a mildly contrite
    SMIDSY response. As he walked on, I didn't feel I had sufficiently
    impressed on him that a lot of inexperienced cyclists ride closer to the
    doors than I do, and I wanted him to take away from this encounter, as I
    did, a feeling of disaster narrowly averted and a resolution to be more
    careful. So I turned around to catch up to him and continue the
    discussion, only to see him take off on a run, in street shoes with his
    necktie flying, and then duck into a restaurant.

    Yesterday, coming home late from work, I hit a red light and used the stop
    for a quick cell phone call to say I was on my way. The light turned green
    as I stuck the phone in my pocket and I don't believe I delayed anyone one
    bit. In any event, I was again in the bike lane on a street with one bike
    lane and one general traffic lane each way, so I really couldn't have
    inconvenienced anyone but another cyclist. However, the car to my left was
    waiting on opposing traffic before turning left, and the cab behind him
    evidently wanted to use the bike lane to scoot around it, so the driver
    felt aggrieved and as he passed me he honked, yelled, and gave me the
    finger. At the first stop sign I pulled up next to him and asked him,
    "Hey, what's your problem?" (using just those words and no others). The
    cabby, a man about my age who seemed way to old to get so excited by
    something like this, just repeated his gesture vigorously and said over
    and over something that I lip-read as "[censored] you!" Hoping to continue the
    conversation, I tried to catch up with him at the next stop sign, where he
    was about fourth in line. Instead, he swerved into the oncoming lane,
    passed the cars ahead of him, and then, encountering traffic about to
    enter the intersection from the opposite direction, made a sudden,
    unsignaled turn down the little side street.

    I guess I've become such a crashing bore on the subject of transportation
    cycling that people now run when they see me coming.

    --
    Paul Turner

  2. Paul Turner wrote:

    <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    So I turned around to catch up to him and continue the
    discussion, only to see him take off on a run, in street shoes with his
    necktie flying, and then duck into a restaurant.

    <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    Instead, he swerved into the oncoming lane,
    passed the cars ahead of him, and then, encountering traffic about to
    enter the intersection from the opposite direction, made a sudden,
    unsignaled turn down the little side street.

    I guess I've become such a crashing bore on the subject of transportation
    cycling that people now run when they see me coming.

    I don't know if you're a bore, but I have learned that when someone,
    particularly strangers, indicate that they are not interested in continuing
    a discussion, I end it right there with "Have a nice day!"

    Life is too short to waste trying to talk to people who are not
    interested/bored/angry/frustrated/late/etc.

    Austin

  3. I'd pay money to see the dude in the suit running away from you... hilarous.

    Mike

    "Paul Turner" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Earlier this week, around dusk, a parking motorist flung his door open at
    the very second I passed his car. I take care to ride outside the door
    zone, but he had a two-door with long doors and had parked none to close
    to the curb, so he really caught my attention (although not my
    handlebars). This was a street with a well marked bike lane, so he had
    extra reason to be aware of cyclists. I circled back to explain to him,
    quite politely, how dangerous that was, and I received a mildly contrite
    SMIDSY response. As he walked on, I didn't feel I had sufficiently
    impressed on him that a lot of inexperienced cyclists ride closer to the
    doors than I do, and I wanted him to take away from this encounter, as I
    did, a feeling of disaster narrowly averted and a resolution to be more
    careful. So I turned around to catch up to him and continue the
    discussion, only to see him take off on a run, in street shoes with his
    necktie flying, and then duck into a restaurant.

    Yesterday, coming home late from work, I hit a red light and used the stop
    for a quick cell phone call to say I was on my way. The light turned green
    as I stuck the phone in my pocket and I don't believe I delayed anyone one
    bit. In any event, I was again in the bike lane on a street with one bike
    lane and one general traffic lane each way, so I really couldn't have
    inconvenienced anyone but another cyclist. However, the car to my left was
    waiting on opposing traffic before turning left, and the cab behind him
    evidently wanted to use the bike lane to scoot around it, so the driver
    felt aggrieved and as he passed me he honked, yelled, and gave me the
    finger. At the first stop sign I pulled up next to him and asked him,
    "Hey, what's your problem?" (using just those words and no others). The
    cabby, a man about my age who seemed way to old to get so excited by
    something like this, just repeated his gesture vigorously and said over
    and over something that I lip-read as "[censored] you!" Hoping to continue the
    conversation, I tried to catch up with him at the next stop sign, where he
    was about fourth in line. Instead, he swerved into the oncoming lane,
    passed the cars ahead of him, and then, encountering traffic about to
    enter the intersection from the opposite direction, made a sudden,
    unsignaled turn down the little side street.

    I guess I've become such a crashing bore on the subject of transportation
    cycling that people now run when they see me coming.

    --
    Paul Turner

  4. Quoted message said:


    I'd pay money to see the dude in the suit running away from you... hilarous.

    Mike

    After he was gone you should have smashed his mirror.
    To make an impression

  5. Destroying someone's property is not a good idea. Especially when there are
    likely, many witnesses. A better way is to place a small pebble under the valve
    stem cap. The screw it down until the air escapes slowly and undetected. Car or
    bike, there's nothing like a flat tire to spoil the mood....

    Fx199 said:
    Quoted message said:


    I'd pay money to see the dude in the suit running away from you... hilarous.

    Mike

    After he was gone you should have smashed his mirror.
    To make an impression

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  6. Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Two strange encounters
    From: TomP [email hidden]
    Date: 8/7/2004 6:43 PM US Eastern Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    Destroying someone's property is not a good idea. Especially when there
    are
    likely, many witnesses. A better way is to place a small pebble under the
    valve
    stem cap. The screw it down until the air escapes slowly and undetected.
    Car or
    bike, there's nothing like a flat tire to spoil the mood....

    I like it. Or spray something clear unto his paint job, that will ruin it.
    You're right it's not good to let anger from a near brush with death unfold
    your life.

  7. Quoted message said:

    "Paul Turner" [email hidden]

    wrote in part:

    Quoted message said:


    Earlier this week, around dusk, a parking motorist flung his door open at
    the very second I passed his car. I take care to ride outside the door
    zone, but he had a two-door with long doors and had parked none to close
    to the curb, so he really caught my attention (although not my
    handlebars). This was a street with a well marked bike lane, so he had
    extra reason to be aware of cyclists. I circled back to explain to him,
    quite politely, how dangerous that was, and I received a mildly contrite
    SMIDSY response. As he walked on, I didn't feel I had sufficiently
    impressed on him that a lot of inexperienced cyclists ride closer to the
    doors than I do, and I wanted him to take away from this encounter, as I
    did, a feeling of disaster narrowly averted and a resolution to be more
    careful. So I turned around to catch up to him and continue the
    discussion, only to see him take off on a run, in street shoes with his
    necktie flying, and then duck into a restaurant.

    Perhaps the reason he ran was the same reason he parked haphazardly and flung
    open his door- he was late, had to use the restroom, etcetera. That wouldn't
    excuse his carelessness of course but it would make it rather difficult for him
    to impress you with a perfect act of contrition.

    Regards,
    Bob Hunt

  8. Quoted message said:

    [email hidden] (Fx199)

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    From: TomP [email hidden]
    Date: 8/7/2004 6:43 PM US Eastern Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    Destroying someone's property is not a good idea. Especially when there
    are
    likely, many witnesses. A better way is to place a small pebble under the
    valve
    stem cap. The screw it down until the air escapes slowly and undetected.
    Car or
    bike, there's nothing like a flat tire to spoil the mood....

    I like it. Or spray something clear unto his paint job, that will ruin it.
    You're right it's not good to let anger from a near brush with death unfold
    your life.

    Hey, it's the Mitty Twins!

    Regards,
    Bob Hunt

  9. TomP said:


    Destroying someone's property is not a good idea. Especially when there are
    likely, many witnesses. A better way is to place a small pebble under the valve
    stem cap. The screw it down until the air escapes slowly and undetected. Car or
    bike, there's nothing like a flat tire to spoil the mood....

    Do it to two tires. Nobody carries two spares.

    --
    Cheers, Bev
    ===================================================
    Red ship crashes into blue ship - sailors marooned.

  10. Quoted message said:

    Hey, it's the Mitty Twins!

    Regards,
    Bob Hunt

    Speakin of Mitty, there goes a walkin nobody, unless he'd like to meet up, I'm
    not hidin.

  11. Hunrobe wrote in part:

    Quoted message said:

    Perhaps the reason he ran was the same reason he parked haphazardly and


    flung

    Quoted message said:

    open his door- he was late, had to use the restroom, etcetera. That


    wouldn't

    Quoted message said:

    excuse his carelessness of course but it would make it rather difficult


    for him

    Quoted message said:

    to impress you with a perfect act of contrition.

    Could be. It's hard to say what I wanted from him, but it was more than,
    "Sorry, I didn't see you." I wanted him to imagine what it would be like
    waiting there for the ambulance and the police, worrying how badly the
    cyclist was hurt and wondering if he would be charged with something. Then
    he would have been late.

    --
    Paul Turner

  12. Paul Turner:

    << ...wondering if he would be charged with something. >>

    Would he be?

    R

  13. "TomP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    A better way is to place a small pebble under the valve

    Quoted message said:

    stem cap. The screw it down until the air escapes slowly and undetected.


    Car or

    Quoted message said:

    bike, there's nothing like a flat tire to spoil the mood....

    Still illegal, childish and likely to get your ass kicked if caught.

    Dave

  14. "Paul Turner" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Earlier this week, around dusk, a parking motorist flung his door open at
    the very second I passed his car. I take care to ride outside the door
    zone, but he had a two-door with long doors and had parked none to close
    to the curb, so he really caught my attention (although not my
    handlebars). This was a street with a well marked bike lane, so he had
    extra reason to be aware of cyclists. I circled back to explain to him,
    quite politely, how dangerous that was, and I received a mildly contrite
    SMIDSY response. As he walked on, I didn't feel I had sufficiently
    impressed on him that a lot of inexperienced cyclists ride closer to the
    doors than I do, and I wanted him to take away from this encounter, as I
    did, a feeling of disaster narrowly averted and a resolution to be more
    careful. So I turned around to catch up to him and continue the
    discussion, only to see him take off on a run, in street shoes with his
    necktie flying, and then duck into a restaurant.

    Maybe he just had to use a bathroom badly. In any case, I thing lecturing
    motorists on dooring risk is a waste of time. As admirable as the motive may
    be, I don't think "self-policing" is trustworthy. The wise thing to do is just
    to stay out of the reach of opening doors -- all the time.

  15. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Paul Turner said:

    Earlier this week, around dusk, a parking motorist flung his door open at
    the very second I passed his car. I take care to ride outside the door
    zone, but he had a two-door with long doors and had parked none to close
    to the curb, so he really caught my attention (although not my
    handlebars). This was a street with a well marked bike lane, so he had
    extra reason to be aware of cyclists. I circled back to explain to him,
    quite politely, how dangerous that was, and I received a mildly contrite
    SMIDSY response. As he walked on, I didn't feel I had sufficiently
    impressed on him that a lot of inexperienced cyclists ride closer to the
    doors than I do, and I wanted him to take away from this encounter, as I
    did, a feeling of disaster narrowly averted and a resolution to be more
    careful. So I turned around to catch up to him and continue the
    discussion, only to see him take off on a run, in street shoes with his
    necktie flying, and then duck into a restaurant.

    Aggressive panhandlers and/or muggers (and there can be a
    very fine line between the two) will sometimes engage their
    prey in a little small talk to size them up, and to see
    just how soft a touch they are. If the subject looks like
    an easy pigeon, they'll momentarily appear to start going
    away, then come back with a much more aggressive demeanour.

    I think maybe you had your say the first time you spoke
    to the person. Going after him later might have looked
    like incipient harrassment to him.

    I wonder how much money he was packing.

    Rest assured, I'm certainly not saying you look like a
    panhandler or a mugger. But some people have weird
    notions about cyclists.

    cheers,
    Tom

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  16. I'm not sure I'd like to encounter you in a dark alley. LOL! j/kidding.

    Those incidents are just too funny! How cool that they ended up in the folk running away from you and that nothing more serious happened.

  17. Quoted message said:

    [email hidden]

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Hey, it's the Mitty Twins!

    Regards,
    Bob Hunt

    Quoted message said:

    Speakin of Mitty, there goes a walkin nobody, unless he'd like to meet up,
    I'm
    not hidin.

    That you post this insult anonymously illustrates perfectly why I called you
    one of the Mitty Twins. BTW, there seems to be an implied threat in your
    "unless he'd like to meet up" comment. Did you scowl really hard at the
    keyboard when you typed that? <g>
    Anyway, the laugh I got out of your silly anonymous posturing brightened an
    otherwise crappy day so thanks for that.

    Regards,
    Bob Hunt

  18. Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Two strange encounters
    From: [email hidden] (Hunrobe)
    Date: 8/8/2004 4:35 PM US Eastern Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    [email hidden]

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Hey, it's the Mitty Twins!

    Regards,
    Bob Hunt

    Quoted message said:

    Speakin of Mitty, there goes a walkin nobody, unless he'd like to meet up,
    I'm
    not hidin.

    That you post this insult anonymously illustrates perfectly why I called you
    one of the Mitty Twins. BTW, there seems to be an implied threat in your
    "unless he'd like to meet up" comment. Did you scowl really hard at the
    keyboard when you typed that? <g>
    Anyway, the laugh I got out of your silly anonymous posturing brightened an
    otherwise crappy day so thanks for that.

    Regards,
    Bob Hunt

    Tell your brother Mike I said hello

  19. Quoted message said:

    [email hidden]

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    That you post this insult anonymously illustrates perfectly why I called you
    one of the Mitty Twins. BTW, there seems to be an implied threat in your
    "unless he'd like to meet up" comment. Did you scowl really hard at the
    keyboard when you typed that? <g>
    Anyway, the laugh I got out of your silly anonymous posturing brightened an
    otherwise crappy day so thanks for that.

    Regards,
    Bob Hunt

    Tell your brother Mike I said hello

    First your silly posturing gave me a good laugh and now you make me wax
    nostalgic for grammar school days when I first heard this particular line.
    Thanks again, sunshine.

    Regards,
    Bob Hunt

    P.S.- I think you may only have one or two clever retorts left and I don't want
    to make you feel inadequate so I'll leave the last word to you, ok?

  20. Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Two strange encounters
    From: [email hidden] (Hunrobe)
    Date: 8/8/2004 6:28 PM US Eastern Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    [email hidden]

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    That you post this insult anonymously illustrates perfectly why I called


    you

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    one of the Mitty Twins. BTW, there seems to be an implied threat in your
    "unless he'd like to meet up" comment. Did you scowl really hard at the
    keyboard when you typed that? <g>
    Anyway, the laugh I got out of your silly anonymous posturing brightened an
    otherwise crappy day so thanks for that.

    Regards,
    Bob Hunt

    Tell your brother Mike I said hello

    First your silly posturing gave me a good laugh and now you make me wax
    nostalgic for grammar school days when I first heard this particular line.
    Thanks again, sunshine.

    Regards,
    Bob Hunt

    P.S.- I think you may only have one or two clever retorts left and I don't
    want
    to make you feel inadequate so I'll leave the last word to you, ok?

    No, I''m full of snide remarks.
    Grammar school is probably a distant memory at this point so I'm glad I made
    you smile.
    By the way, my Email works, we can swap phone numbers or whatever it is that
    you're so curious about as far as my identity is, to spare the group.

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