Two out of three confirmed dopers prefer Tinkoff

[ronaldo_jeremiah]

Hroller wrote:
> On 4 Jan 2007 01:04:04 -0800, "[email protected]"
> <[email protected]> wrote:

> >car. The bottom half of the shield is a unicorn rampant, OK,
> >but the top half appears to show the hand of God emerging
> >from a cloud and brandishing a chicken drumstick. WTF?
>
> That unicorn is not rampant. Rampant is standing, two left off the
> ground. and much more vertical than that. As for the arm, it looks
> like Ronald McDonalds arm to me...

Hroller -

I am wondering - is drug use rampant in cycling?

-rj

 

[Bob Schwartz]

Howard Kveck wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> "ronaldo_jeremiah" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Bob Schwartz wrote:
>>
>>> What struck me was how old those guys are. By the time the
>>> season starts Commesso will be 32, Hondo 33 (pretty old for
>>> sprinters), and Tyler will be 35.
>>>
>> Dumbass -
>>
>> Yeah, suspensions don't make you any younger.
>>
>> As for old age and sprinters, I have always thought sprinters age
>> better than other riders.
>
> Cipo and Zabel being fairly good examples.

Cipo is an exception. Zabel, who has aged better than most
sprinters, took his last green jersey at age 31 and won his
last stage in the Tour at 32. He is not an exception.

Compare that to the relative geezerheads like Virenque (35)
and Jaja (34) that have recently taken KOM jerseys in the
Tour.

 

[Howard Kveck]

In article <[email protected]>,
Bob Schwartz <[email protected]> wrote:

> Howard Kveck wrote:
> > In article <[email protected]>,
> > "ronaldo_jeremiah" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> Bob Schwartz wrote:
> >>
> >>> What struck me was how old those guys are. By the time the
> >>> season starts Commesso will be 32, Hondo 33 (pretty old for
> >>> sprinters), and Tyler will be 35.
> >>>
> >> Dumbass -
> >>
> >> Yeah, suspensions don't make you any younger.
> >>
> >> As for old age and sprinters, I have always thought sprinters age
> >> better than other riders.
> >
> > Cipo and Zabel being fairly good examples.
>
> Cipo is an exception. Zabel, who has aged better than most
> sprinters, took his last green jersey at age 31 and won his
> last stage in the Tour at 32. He is not an exception.

You're right that Zabel hasn't won much in recent years, but he still has been
right up front. He's had about a jillion second places in various races over the
last couple of years. I think he's been more consistently at (okay, *near*) the
front than anyone else. Which means he's just barely lost to more different guys
than anyone else.

--
tanx,
Howard

Never take a tenant with a monkey.

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

 

[DA74]

Bob Schwartz wrote:
> Howard Kveck wrote:
> > In article <[email protected]>,
> > "ronaldo_jeremiah" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> Bob Schwartz wrote:
> >>
> >>> What struck me was how old those guys are. By the time the
> >>> season starts Commesso will be 32, Hondo 33 (pretty old for
> >>> sprinters), and Tyler will be 35.
> >>>
> >> Dumbass -
> >>
> >> Yeah, suspensions don't make you any younger.
> >>
> >> As for old age and sprinters, I have always thought sprinters age
> >> better than other riders.
> >
> > Cipo and Zabel being fairly good examples.
>
> Cipo is an exception. Zabel, who has aged better than most
> sprinters, took his last green jersey at age 31 and won his
> last stage in the Tour at 32. He is not an exception.
>
> Compare that to the relative geezerheads like Virenque (35)
> and Jaja (34) that have recently taken KOM jerseys in the
> Tour.

Maybe the age explains why Tricky Dickie and El Yaya had been embalmed
with aranesp and humatrope before their successful green jersey
campaigns.

DA74

 

[Robert Chung]

[email protected] wrote:
> Bob Schwartz wrote:

>> What struck me was how old those guys are. By the time the
>> season starts Commesso will be 32, Hondo 33 (pretty old for
>> sprinters), and Tyler will be 35.
>
> Is Rogaine on the banned list?

Not AFAIK, but finasteride is:
http://www.ishrs.org/articles/olympic-athletes.htm

 

[Michael Press]

In article
<[email protected]>,
"[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:

> DA74 wrote:
> > http://www.cyclingnews.com/newsphotos.php?id=photos/2007/news/jan07/tinkoff_train/Tinkoff5876
>
> dumbass drug sports are awesome, i will be the biggest tinkoff fan.
>
> -capucchino machine's attack into sestriere
> -riis on the hautacam
> -pantani putting 9 mins into ullrich on the galibier
> -mcguire's 70 HRs, '98 was the ****, even the balls were juiced:
> (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2719191)
> -hamilton soloing into bayonne with a broken collarbone
> -landis on stage 17.
> -james brown
>
> need i say more ?

-Salvatore Commesso punching Torsten Schmidt.

--
Michael Press

 

[Michael Press]

In article
<[email protected]>
,
"[email protected]" <[email protected]>
wrote:

> [email protected] wrote:
> > DA74 wrote:
> > > http://www.cyclingnews.com/newsphotos.php?id=photos/2007/news/jan07/tinkoff_train/Tinkoff5876
> >
> > dumbass drug sports are awesome, i will be the biggest tinkoff fan.
> >
> > -capucchino machine's attack into sestriere
> > -riis on the hautacam
> > -pantani putting 9 mins into ullrich on the galibier
> > -mcguire's 70 HRs, '98 was the ****, even the balls were juiced:
> > (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2719191)
> > -hamilton soloing into bayonne with a broken collarbone
> > -landis on stage 17.
> > -james brown
> >
> > need i say more ?
>
> Dude, you are going to have to be high on something to bear
> looking at that crazy Tinkoff kit for more than a few seconds
> at a time. It is making my eyes cross. I also cannot figure
> out the heraldic symbols on the coat of arms on the team
> car. The bottom half of the shield is a unicorn rampant, OK,
> but the top half appears to show the hand of God emerging
> from a cloud and brandishing a chicken drumstick. WTF?

Unicorn passant.

> Also, isn't this team basically financed by a Russian bank?
> I'm _sure_ it's all on the up-and-up.

Yeah. **** Pound tells them to suspend a rider for
suspicion of drug use, and they will stare blankly at
him; then either hand over a satchel of gold bricks or
beat him senseless.

> Ben
> D.S., Noble Dacha Cycling Team

--
Michael Press

 

[Donald Munro]

Michael Press wrote:
> Yeah. **** Pound tells them to suspend a rider for
> suspicion of drug use, and they will stare blankly at
> him; then either hand over a satchel of gold bricks or
> beat him senseless.

Or beat him senseless with a satchel of gold bricks. Anyway he's senseless
by default.

 

[Michael Press]

In article
<[email protected]>,
Donald Munro <[email protected]> wrote:

> Michael Press wrote:
> > Yeah. **** Pound tells them to suspend a rider for
> > suspicion of drug use, and they will stare blankly at
> > him; then either hand over a satchel of gold bricks or
> > beat him senseless.
>
> Or beat him senseless with a satchel of gold bricks. Anyway he's senseless
> by default.

Yes, I knew that ... five seconds after pushing the
`send' button. Happy New Year.

--
Michael Press

 

[SLAVE of THE STATE]

Ewoud Dronkert wrote:

> That's also why LANCE's "get dropped then" was so moronic.
....
> Champions are just stronger and win despite working.

That is two interesting takes.

 

[[email protected]]

SLAVE of THE STATE wrote:
> Ewoud Dronkert wrote:
>
> > That's also why LANCE's "get dropped then" was so moronic.
> ...
> > Champions are just stronger and win despite working.
>
> That is two interesting takes.

FWIW, I always took LANCE's "get dropped then"
as more of a promise ("you'll get dropped then") then
a complaint, which I think means I agree with you.

Captain Waddell didn't take offense at the time, and
he was there.

Ben