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  1. I would like to serve corn at a dinner party on Saturday for 8 people
    and I would like to use fresh corn from the cob. I don't want to serve
    big ears of corn as it takes up so much room on the plate and is a
    little informal.

    Should I cook the corn before I cut the kernels off and serve it in a
    bowl? Or should I cut the kernels off the cob before I cook the corn?
    Which has the better result?

    Also, I thought a nice creamed corn made from scratch would be really
    quite nice. How does one make creamed corn? I've only had it from a
    can.

    Or any other ideas for serving fresh corn that is so good right now,
    please?

    Thanks in advance,
    Karen

  2. Karen said:

    I would like to serve corn at a dinner party on Saturday for 8 people
    and I would like to use fresh corn from the cob. [snip]

    Should I cook the corn before I cut the kernels off and serve it in a
    bowl?

    Definitely not.

    Quoted message said:

    Or should I cut the kernels off the cob before I cook the corn?

    Yes, definitely.

    Quoted message said:

    Which has the better result?

    Asked and answered.

    Quoted message said:

    Also, I thought a nice creamed corn made from scratch would be really
    quite nice. How does one make creamed corn? [snip]

    Here's a link to a recipe from Alton Brown's Good Eats.
    http://tinyurl.com/32dyur

    Quoted message said:

    Other recipes thicken with cornstarch or flour, but I like his idea of using cornmeal. Don't be tempted to use any form of low-fat or fake cream. This is one of those dishes that must have the real deal.

    Quoted message said:

    Or any other ideas for serving fresh corn that is so good right now,
    please?

    I like your idea. -aem

  3. aem said:

    Here's a link to a recipe from Alton Brown's Good Eats.
    http://tinyurl.com/32dyur

    He mentions placing a paper bowl inside a bowl. I've never seen or made
    a paper bowl. What does it look like? What's it for?

    --Lia

  4. Julia Altshuler <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    http://tinyurl.com/32dyur

    So you are cutting with a knife in a bowl...the paper is easier on the
    blade than the stainless steel or ceramic if a mishap occurs and you dash
    the blade against the side of the non-paper bowl.

    This is my guess.

    --

    The house of the burning beet-Alan

    It'll be a sunny day in August, when the Moon will shine that night-
    Elbonian Folklore

  5. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Karen said:

    I would like to serve corn at a dinner party on Saturday for 8 people
    and I would like to use fresh corn from the cob. I don't want to serve
    big ears of corn as it takes up so much room on the plate and is a
    little informal.

    Should I cook the corn before I cut the kernels off and serve it in a
    bowl? Or should I cut the kernels off the cob before I cook the corn?
    Which has the better result?

    Also, I thought a nice creamed corn made from scratch would be really
    quite nice. How does one make creamed corn? I've only had it from a
    can.

    Or any other ideas for serving fresh corn that is so good right now,
    please?

    Thanks in advance,
    Karen

    I'd serve it on the cob and break the ears in half.

    That's how I generally serve it anyway.

    Another possibility is to pick the smallest ears available maybe?
    --
    Peace, Om

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  6. Karen said:

    I would like to serve corn at a dinner party on Saturday for 8 people
    and I would like to use fresh corn from the cob. I don't want to serve
    big ears of corn as it takes up so much room on the plate and is a
    little informal.

    Nothing stopping you from snapping the ears into halves.

    Quoted message said:

    Should I cook the corn before I cut the kernels off and serve it in a
    bowl? Or should I cut the kernels off the cob before I cook the corn?
    Which has the better result?

    Typical variety of sweet corn sold is not suitible for niblets... buy
    frozen instead.

    Quoted message said:

    Also, I thought a nice creamed corn made from scratch would be really
    quite nice. How does one make creamed corn? I've only had it from a
    can.

    There are plenty of recipes on the net but you'll waste a lot of corn,
    plus again, the typical sweet corn sold is not of the variety used to
    make creamed corn... you'll probably end up with watery corn and a lot
    of tough bits as with generic canned creamed corn.

    Quoted message said:

    Or any other ideas for serving fresh corn that is so good right now,
    please?

    If you want niblets I'd suggest a good brand of frozen. Unless you
    have a source for the correct type of corn for creamed style I'd
    forget that... plus in any case I'd not practice on guests, try making
    creamed corn for yourself first. Were it me I'd buy local corn and
    roast them on the grill, then snap them into halves for serving... but
    I think you'll find most folks are quite capable of handling full ears
    themselves and would much prefer it that way... corn is not a formal
    dinner type vegetable regardless how it's served anyway... if you're
    wanting to be snobbish forget the corn and serve artichoke hearts,
    asparagus, belgium endive instead. So what entree did you plan on
    serving with your snooty corn, sloppy joes?

  7. Omelet said...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Karen said:

    I would like to serve corn at a dinner party on Saturday for 8 people
    and I would like to use fresh corn from the cob. I don't want to serve
    big ears of corn as it takes up so much room on the plate and is a
    little informal.

    Should I cook the corn before I cut the kernels off and serve it in a
    bowl? Or should I cut the kernels off the cob before I cook the corn?
    Which has the better result?

    Also, I thought a nice creamed corn made from scratch would be really
    quite nice. How does one make creamed corn? I've only had it from a
    can.

    Or any other ideas for serving fresh corn that is so good right now,
    please?

    Thanks in advance,
    Karen

    I'd serve it on the cob and break the ears in half.

    That's how I generally serve it anyway.

    Another possibility is to pick the smallest ears available maybe?

    I would add if it was "that day" fresh picked sweet corn to serve it raw.
    I'd toss formal out the window for that.

    Cream corn doesn't sound bad either, just very rich!

    Then there's cornbread with the kernels in it but that's not formal, what
    with lathering it up with butter and using your hands? God forbid. 😉

    Andy

  8. Sheldon said:

    If you want niblets I'd suggest a good brand of frozen. Unless you
    have a source for the correct type of corn for creamed style I'd
    forget that... plus in any case I'd not practice on guests, try making
    creamed corn for yourself first. Were it me I'd buy local corn and
    roast them on the grill, then snap them into halves for serving... but
    I think you'll find most folks are quite capable of handling full ears
    themselves and would much prefer it that way... corn is not a formal
    dinner type vegetable regardless how it's served anyway... if you're
    wanting to be snobbish forget the corn and serve artichoke hearts,
    asparagus, belgium endive instead. So what entree did you plan on
    serving with your snooty corn, sloppy joes?

    I'm being more practical than snooty. Fresh sweet, cripsy, tender,
    juicy corn at Safeway is 5 for a buck. I want to serve food in bowls
    and not eat with hands just to add a nice touch to my dinner. It's not
    a backyard bar-be-cue, nor is it a snooty affair. An ear, or even a
    half an ear of corn takes up room on the plate and leaves a gnawed off
    cob on display. I don't want to serve snobbery, I want to serve
    prepared fresh corn, not frozen corn or sloppy joes. I don't know why
    you spin so much negativity into a question about serving corn off the
    cob.

    Karen

  9. hahabogus said:

    So you are cutting with a knife in a bowl...the paper is easier on the
    blade than the stainless steel or ceramic if a mishap occurs and you dash
    the blade against the side of the non-paper bowl.

    This is my guess.

    I'll probably be able to rig the cutting board over a bowl.

    Thanks for Alton's creamed corn recipe aem. I think I am going to try
    that.

    Karen

  10. Andy g said:

    I would add if it was "that day" fresh picked sweet corn to serve it raw.
    I'd toss formal out the window for that.

    Cream corn doesn't sound bad either, just very rich!

    Then there's cornbread with the kernels in it but that's not formal, what
    with lathering it up with butter and using your hands? God forbid. 😉

    Nothing wrong with it. That's how it's usually served, I know. I
    always do myself. But, isn't it ok to try something different?

    Karen

  11. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Karen said:

    I'm being more practical than snooty. Fresh sweet, cripsy, tender,
    juicy corn at Safeway is 5 for a buck. I want to serve food in bowls
    and not eat with hands just to add a nice touch to my dinner. It's not
    a backyard bar-be-cue, nor is it a snooty affair. An ear, or even a
    half an ear of corn takes up room on the plate and leaves a gnawed off
    cob on display. I don't want to serve snobbery, I want to serve
    prepared fresh corn, not frozen corn or sloppy joes. I don't know why
    you spin so much negativity into a question about serving corn off the
    cob.

    Karen

    If you don't want a cob, fresh frozen niblets is a wonderful option?
    That stuff is so tender, sweet and cripsy?

    Corn souffle' made with cream corn is also an option!
    --
    Peace, Om

    Remove _ to validate e-mails.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a [censored]" -- Jack Nicholson

  12. Karen said:

    Or any other ideas for serving fresh corn that is so good right now,
    please?

    Toss the corn with grape tomatoes and vinaigrette for a delicious and
    pretty salad. Sprinkle some basil or parsley over it before serving.

    Tara

  13. Omelet said:

    If you don't want a cob, fresh frozen niblets is a wonderful option?
    That stuff is so tender, sweet and cripsy?

    Corn souffle' made with cream corn is also an option!

    Thanks... I don't want to use frozen or canned corn when the season is
    peaking. I think it will be fun to experiment making a corn recipe
    using fresh corn from the cob.

    Karen

  14. Karen said:

    I would like to serve corn at a dinner party on Saturday for 8 people
    and I would like to use fresh corn from the cob. I don't want to serve
    big ears of corn as it takes up so much room on the plate and is a
    little informal.

    Should I cook the corn before I cut the kernels off and serve it in a
    bowl? Or should I cut the kernels off the cob before I cook the corn?
    Which has the better result?

    Also, I thought a nice creamed corn made from scratch would be really
    quite nice. How does one make creamed corn? I've only had it from a
    can.

    Or any other ideas for serving fresh corn that is so good right now,
    please?

    Grilled corn is one of my favorites. I like it when it gets some brown
    caramelized areas which has tons of natural flavor. An example:

    http://www.balthropalabama.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2006/06/grilledcorn.jpg

    The folded back husk makes a handle for eating.

    Peel back the husk and remove any silk. Rub some oil (I use olive) on
    the corn. Grill over high heat and rotate frequently. Takes less than 10
    minutes.

    Quoted message said:

    Thanks in advance,
    Karen

  15. Karen said:


    I would like to serve corn at a dinner party on Saturday for 8 people
    and I would like to use fresh corn from the cob. I don't want to serve
    big ears of corn as it takes up so much room on the plate and is a
    little informal.

    Should I cook the corn before I cut the kernels off and serve it in a
    bowl? Or should I cut the kernels off the cob before I cook the corn?
    Which has the better result?

    Also, I thought a nice creamed corn made from scratch would be really
    quite nice. How does one make creamed corn? I've only had it from a
    can.

    Or any other ideas for serving fresh corn that is so good right now,
    please?

    Thanks in advance,
    Karen

    I love fresh corn (off the cob) and on-the-cob, corn too. Most of the
    time, I just cut the corn kernals off the cob "before" cooking, then I
    scrape the backside of my knife down sides of the cobs after removing
    kernels to "milk" the cob. I put the kernels and "milk" into a sauce
    pan, add butter and some salt, some heavy cream (or half-n-half - cook's
    choice as to amount <g>😉, then put the pan on a medium-hot burner until
    the corn and cream are heated through (stir frequently). Everything can
    be done way ahead of dinner party time until it comes to heating the
    corn, which doesn't take long at all.

    A good idea I've seen in a few places (magazines) to help with removal
    of the kernels from the cob is to use a bundt pan. Just put the corncob
    on top of the middle pillar of the bundt pan to let the corn kernals
    fall into the pan as they're sliced off. It might be a good idea to put
    a cob holder (or nail) into the (bottom) side of the corn cob so it
    stays in the middle hole of the bundt pan pillar and doesn't slide off
    while slicing.

    Sky, who's eagerly anticipating the arrival of summer sweet corn!

  16. I like to cut it off the cob and saute for a few minutes in a couple
    of tablespoons of butter. When it's done, I add finely chopped
    jalapeno, about half of one to 3 ears of corn. Delish!

  17. Omelet said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Karen said:

    I would like to serve corn at a dinner party on Saturday for 8 people
    and I would like to use fresh corn from the cob. I don't want to
    serve big ears of corn as it takes up so much room on the plate and
    is a little informal.

    Should I cook the corn before I cut the kernels off and serve it in a
    bowl? Or should I cut the kernels off the cob before I cook the corn?
    Which has the better result?

    Also, I thought a nice creamed corn made from scratch would be really
    quite nice. How does one make creamed corn? I've only had it from a
    can.

    Or any other ideas for serving fresh corn that is so good right now,
    please?

    Thanks in advance,
    Karen

    I'd serve it on the cob and break the ears in half.

    That's how I generally serve it anyway.

    That was my first thought. Why bother cutting it off the ears? Cut the
    ears in half.

    kili

  18. Karen said...

    Quoted message said:
    Andy g said:

    I would add if it was "that day" fresh picked sweet corn to serve it


    raw.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I'd toss formal out the window for that.

    Cream corn doesn't sound bad either, just very rich!

    Then there's cornbread with the kernels in it but that's not formal,


    what

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    with lathering it up with butter and using your hands? God forbid. 😉

    Nothing wrong with it. That's how it's usually served, I know. I
    always do myself. But, isn't it ok to try something different?

    Karen

    Different is always fun.

    My ACME market does the worst thing to corn, they husk it and then
    repackage the corn, shrink wrapped like meat. And it tends to turn
    flavorless in the light.

    There are little mini corn fields on street corners around the area (for
    show) where the farmer's truck in a day's harvest for sale. If you have a
    stand like those, it's as next to fresh as picking it yourself.

    Andy

  19. Omelet said:

    If you don't want a cob, fresh frozen niblets is a wonderful option?
    That stuff is so tender, sweet and cripsy?

    Corn souffle' made with cream corn is also an option!

    LOL Back in the mid 70s when I was first married we had my parents over
    for dinner. My wife was cooking a corn soufflé from a recipe in Gourmet
    magazine. It called for a teaspoon of curry powder. Knowing that neither of
    my parents likes spicy foods she substituted cayenne people for the curry.
    Even better, she doubled the amount. I don't know how she could not realize
    that cayenne was a hell of a lot hotter than curry powder, and never mind
    doubling the amount. I can tell you that it has a nip to it..... but it
    was tasty.

  20. Skyhooks said:
    Karen said:

    I would like to serve corn at a dinner party on Saturday for 8 people
    and I would like to use fresh corn from the cob. I don't want to serve
    big ears of corn as it takes up so much room on the plate and is a
    little informal.

    Quoted message said:

    Should I cook the corn before I cut the kernels off and serve it in a
    bowl? Or should I cut the kernels off the cob before I cook the corn?
    Which has the better result?

    Quoted message said:

    Also, I thought a nice creamed corn made from scratch would be really
    quite nice. How does one make creamed corn? I've only had it from a
    can.

    Quoted message said:

    Or any other ideas for serving fresh corn that is so good right now,
    please?

    Quoted message said:

    Thanks in advance,
    Karen

    I love fresh corn (off the cob) and on-the-cob, corn too. Most of the
    time, I just cut the corn kernals off the cob "before" cooking, then I
    scrape the backside of my knife down sides of the cobs after removing
    kernels to "milk" the cob. I put the kernels and "milk" into a sauce
    pan, add butter and some salt, some heavy cream (or half-n-half - cook's
    choice as to amount <g>😉, then put the pan on a medium-hot burner until
    the corn and cream are heated through (stir frequently). Everything can
    be done way ahead of dinner party time until it comes to heating the
    corn, which doesn't take long at all.

    A good idea I've seen in a few places (magazines) to help with removal
    of the kernels from the cob is to use a bundt pan. Just put the corncob
    on top of the middle pillar of the bundt pan to let the corn kernals
    fall into the pan as they're sliced off. It might be a good idea to put
    a cob holder (or nail) into the (bottom) side of the corn cob so it
    stays in the middle hole of the bundt pan pillar and doesn't slide off
    while slicing.

    Sky, who's eagerly anticipating the arrival of summer sweet corn!-

    what a great idea!

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