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  1. aem said:
    Old Mother Ashby said:

    [snips]>
    Dear me, I seem to have got up your nose! Are you always this touchy?


    You don't understand the normal routine around here. First, B(to)P
    posts Unassailable Truths. Then, if anyone should suggest that there's
    another version of the Truth, he clarifies that the responder is
    incapable of understanding the Unassailable Truth. You, for example,
    can't understand because you seem to think the English once knew
    something about cooking and about the English language. Get with the
    program. -aem

    <LOL> Still can't let go, huh...?

    I like the inclusion of all those red herrings. Perhaps a recipe for
    them would be good.

    Pastorio

  2. Bob (this one) said:
    Old Mother Ashby said:
    Bob (this one) said:

    Old Mother Ashby wrote:

    > Bob (this one) wrote:
    >

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    <LOL> Americans love them so much that you see them... um, nowhere
    here. English culinary training...imagine.

    No, no, I didn't say Americans loved jam [censored], I said they WOULD if
    they came across them. I see you share the general prejusice against
    English cooking, though I think it might have improved a bit in
    recent years.

    Yes, in fairness, I must admit it has. Now there are Pakistani
    restaurants, Japanese, French, Italian, etc. Oh, yes, English cooking
    has much improved in recent years.

    Quoted message said:

    I don't know much about American culinary training, I presume you
    have to learn to flip burgers somewhere...

    <LOL> Good riposte.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > I am of course familiar with the fruit [censored], glazed and usually on
    > a creme patisserie base (sometimes the pastry is coated with
    > chocolate as well). Yum! But this only reinforces my point that
    > these things called [censored] are open - a pastry base with a
    > decorative fruit topping. That is what your creation is also,
    > except that it's of greater than usual depth.

    I'm truly sorry you can't read very well. Examples don't seem to
    matter. Culinary definitions don't seem to matter. Apparently the
    only important component of "[censored]" for you is that it not have a top
    crust. Well, I can see how that would make life easier. No thinking
    necessary.

    Dear me, I seem to have got up your nose! Are you always this touchy?

    Not a bit of it. Perhaps I have a prejudice against such parochial
    declarations, particularly in the face of additional information that
    might be included in the consideration.

    It's been lovely.

    It has indeed!

    Christine

    Quoted message said:


    Pastorio

  3. Bob (this one) said:

    Rolled out a crust and put it into a 10-inch, deep-dish pie plate.
    Chopped up some large Gala apples, tossed them with cinnamon, ginger,
    nutmeg, cloves and allspice, and a couple tablespoons corn starch.
    Dumped them into the shell. Cut a couple huge Honeycrisp apples into
    wedges and laid the over top of the chopped galas. Sliced some thin and
    laid them in a circle in the center to be the "flower" decoration.
    Sprinkled the spice mixture over the outer, apple-wedge pattern; left
    the center plain. Put dabs of butter all around. Baked at 375°.

    When it was done, I melted some homemade (very pale-colored) grape jelly
    (1/2 white grapes, 1/2 ruby grapes), added a good bit of Applejack and
    apple juice, and corn starch. Cooked it to thicken into a shiny glaze.
    Poured some into the spaces and brushed the whole top with it. Total of
    8 apples. Lasted through dinner. Warmed, vanilla ice cream.

    Looks nice. I'd be tempted to call it a galette.

    Do Gala's really work well as a baking apple? They seem quite bland to
    me, and I've always stuck to the tarter side of the apple spectrum for
    my pies. We don't have Honeycrisps so maybe that's where the flavor is
    coming from?

    Susan B.

  4. sueb said:
    Bob (this one) said:

    Rolled out a crust and put it into a 10-inch, deep-dish pie plate.
    Chopped up some large Gala apples, tossed them with cinnamon, ginger,
    nutmeg, cloves and allspice, and a couple tablespoons corn starch.
    Dumped them into the shell. Cut a couple huge Honeycrisp apples into
    wedges and laid the over top of the chopped galas. Sliced some thin and
    laid them in a circle in the center to be the "flower" decoration.
    Sprinkled the spice mixture over the outer, apple-wedge pattern; left
    the center plain. Put dabs of butter all around. Baked at 375°.

    When it was done, I melted some homemade (very pale-colored) grape jelly
    (1/2 white grapes, 1/2 ruby grapes), added a good bit of Applejack and
    apple juice, and corn starch. Cooked it to thicken into a shiny glaze.
    Poured some into the spaces and brushed the whole top with it. Total of
    8 apples. Lasted through dinner. Warmed, vanilla ice cream.

    Looks nice. I'd be tempted to call it a galette.


    Do not go there.Recant now, I beg you. I've been through all that with
    him, and it's very, very important to Bob that you call it a PIE!!!
    To him a "[censored]" is hoity toity fancy French food, the word "galette"
    will have him with steam coming out of every orifice. You do not want to
    be responsible for his early demise (or your own as he beats you about
    the head with his culinary vocabulary).

    Cheers
    Christine

    Quoted message said:

    Do Gala's really work well as a baking apple? They seem quite bland to
    me, and I've always stuck to the tarter side of the apple spectrum for
    my pies. We don't have Honeycrisps so maybe that's where the flavor is
    coming from?

    Susan B.

  5. Old Mother Ashby said:
    sueb said:
    Bob (this one) said:

    Rolled out a crust and put it into a 10-inch, deep-dish pie plate.
    Chopped up some large Gala apples, tossed them with cinnamon, ginger,
    nutmeg, cloves and allspice, and a couple tablespoons corn starch.
    Dumped them into the shell. Cut a couple huge Honeycrisp apples into
    wedges and laid the over top of the chopped galas. Sliced some thin and
    laid them in a circle in the center to be the "flower" decoration.
    Sprinkled the spice mixture over the outer, apple-wedge pattern; left
    the center plain. Put dabs of butter all around. Baked at 375°.

    When it was done, I melted some homemade (very pale-colored) grape jelly
    (1/2 white grapes, 1/2 ruby grapes), added a good bit of Applejack and
    apple juice, and corn starch. Cooked it to thicken into a shiny glaze.
    Poured some into the spaces and brushed the whole top with it. Total of
    8 apples. Lasted through dinner. Warmed, vanilla ice cream.


    Looks nice. I'd be tempted to call it a galette.

    I wouldn't. Typical galette is very thin - at most, one thin layer of
    fruit with or without heavy glaze - on a crisp crust, usually puff
    pastry or a very short crust; either pate brisee or pate sucree. Thin
    and crunchy. They're open-face [censored], usually round and cut into wedges
    like pizza. They're not baked in forms like [censored] pans or pie plates, but
    flat on baking sheets with a self-edge. The crunch is one of the
    defining elements.

    Quoted message said:

    Do not go there.Recant now, I beg you. I've been through all that with
    him, and it's very, very important to Bob that you call it a PIE!!!
    To him a "[censored]" is hoity toity fancy French food, the word "galette"
    will have him with steam coming out of every orifice. You do not want to
    be responsible for his early demise (or your own as he beats you about
    the head with his culinary vocabulary).

    I'd be self-conscious if I were you, too. But gallant effort, however
    laden with crafted obtuseness.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Do Gala's really work well as a baking apple? They seem quite bland to
    me, and I've always stuck to the tarter side of the apple spectrum for
    my pies. We don't have Honeycrisps so maybe that's where the flavor is
    coming from?

    The galas were on the [censored] side. The honeycrisps more sweet and more
    juicy. Both good in the instance, and combined well.

    Made another one tonight with 4 honeycrisp apples and two bosc pears.
    The Kid did the peeling and cutting of fruit and did most of the
    assembly. I rolled and placed the crust in the same 10" pie plate, but
    this time decorated the edges with leaf cutouts rather than to leave it
    as a frill. Glazed with the same jelly. In the fridge now.

    Pastorio

  6. Bob (this one) said:
    Old Mother Ashby said:
    sueb said:

    Bob (this one) wrote:

    > Rolled out a crust and put it into a 10-inch, deep-dish pie plate.
    > Chopped up some large Gala apples, tossed them with cinnamon, ginger,
    > nutmeg, cloves and allspice, and a couple tablespoons corn starch.
    > Dumped them into the shell. Cut a couple huge Honeycrisp apples into
    > wedges and laid the over top of the chopped galas. Sliced some thin
    > and
    > laid them in a circle in the center to be the "flower" decoration.
    > Sprinkled the spice mixture over the outer, apple-wedge pattern; left
    > the center plain. Put dabs of butter all around. Baked at 375°.
    >
    > When it was done, I melted some homemade (very pale-colored) grape
    > jelly
    > (1/2 white grapes, 1/2 ruby grapes), added a good bit of Applejack and
    > apple juice, and corn starch. Cooked it to thicken into a shiny glaze.
    > Poured some into the spaces and brushed the whole top with it.
    > Total of
    > 8 apples. Lasted through dinner. Warmed, vanilla ice cream.
    >
    >

    Looks nice. I'd be tempted to call it a galette.


    I wouldn't. Typical galette is very thin - at most, one thin layer of
    fruit with or without heavy glaze - on a crisp crust, usually puff
    pastry or a very short crust; either pate brisee or pate sucree. Thin
    and crunchy. They're open-face [censored], usually round and cut into
    wedges like pizza. They're not baked in forms like [censored] pans or pie
    plates, but flat on baking sheets with a self-edge. The crunch is one
    of the defining elements.

    Quoted message said:

    Do not go there.Recant now, I beg you. I've been through all that
    with him, and it's very, very important to Bob that you call it a PIE!!!
    To him a "[censored]" is hoity toity fancy French food, the word "galette"
    will have him with steam coming out of every orifice. You do not want
    to be responsible for his early demise (or your own as he beats you
    about the head with his culinary vocabulary).

    I'd be self-conscious if I were you, too. But gallant effort, however
    laden with crafted obtuseness.

    Huh? I withdraw the adjective, just make that plain "vocabulary". Ooh,
    I just love you patronising, competitive Alpha males! Every
    conversation is a competiton that you've gotta win! Makes me feel all
    feminine and fluttery, it does.

    Christine
    But anybody who comes out with "I am a *lady* you know!" is asking for
    trouble, all the same. You have been warned, guys.

  7. Old Mother Ashby said:
    Bob (this one) said:
    Old Mother Ashby said:

    sueb wrote:

    > Bob (this one) wrote:
    >
    >> Rolled out a crust and put it into a 10-inch, deep-dish pie
    >> plate. Chopped up some large Gala apples, tossed them with
    >> cinnamon, ginger, nutmeg, cloves and allspice, and a couple
    >> tablespoons corn starch. Dumped them into the shell. Cut a
    >> couple huge Honeycrisp apples into wedges and laid the over
    >> top of the chopped galas. Sliced some thin and laid them in a
    >> circle in the center to be the "flower" decoration. Sprinkled
    >> the spice mixture over the outer, apple-wedge pattern; left
    >> the center plain. Put dabs of butter all around. Baked at
    >> 375°.
    >>
    >> When it was done, I melted some homemade (very pale-colored)
    >> grape jelly (1/2 white grapes, 1/2 ruby grapes), added a good
    >> bit of Applejack and apple juice, and corn starch. Cooked it
    >> to thicken into a shiny glaze. Poured some into the spaces
    >> and brushed the whole top with it. Total of 8 apples. Lasted
    >> through dinner. Warmed, vanilla ice cream.
    >
    > Looks nice. I'd be tempted to call it a galette.

    I wouldn't. Typical galette is very thin - at most, one thin layer
    of fruit with or without heavy glaze - on a crisp crust, usually
    puff pastry or a very short crust; either pate brisee or pate
    sucree. Thin and crunchy. They're open-face [censored], usually round
    and cut into wedges like pizza. They're not baked in forms like
    [censored] pans or pie plates, but flat on baking sheets with a
    self-edge. The crunch is one of the defining elements.

    Quoted message said:

    Do not go there.Recant now, I beg you. I've been through all
    that with him, and it's very, very important to Bob that you call
    it a PIE!!! To him a "[censored]" is hoity toity fancy French food, the
    word "galette" will have him with steam coming out of every
    orifice. You do not want to be responsible for his early demise
    (or your own as he beats you about the head with his culinary
    vocabulary).

    I'd be self-conscious if I were you, too. But gallant effort,
    however laden with crafted obtuseness.

    Huh? I withdraw the adjective, just make that plain "vocabulary".

    I assume that means you missed the galette explanation above, and so
    many others in this thread. But, yes, I do have a large vocabulary. It's
    all those years of reading books. You should try it.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Ooh, I just love you patronising, competitive Alpha males! Every
    conversation is a competiton that you've gotta win! Makes me feel
    all feminine and fluttery, it does.

    <LOL> I just love that you expect to get away scot-free from the results
    of your own competitive sarcasm. The difference between us is that I've
    offered data and you've offered hilarious if ineffectual indignation.
    Cooking terms are technical terms. They generally have rather
    well-established meanings or applications that seem to have escaped you.
    But hope springs eternal.

    Do you know the difference between a pie plate and a [censored] pan?

    Quoted message said:

    Christine But anybody who comes out with "I am a *lady* you know!"
    is asking for trouble, all the same. You have been warned, guys.

    Here's five bucks. Buy yourself something frilly. Don't waste it on
    education.

    Pastorio

  8. "Old Mother Ashby" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Pastorio

    Looks great, but if I would call it a [censored], not a pie. What do you call
    the version that has a lid on?

    What about a flan? Is that different again? 😉

    Jen

  9. Bob (this one) said:
    Old Mother Ashby said:
    Bob (this one) said:

    Old Mother Ashby wrote:

    > sueb wrote:
    >
    >> Bob (this one) wrote:
    >>
    >>> Rolled out a crust and put it into a 10-inch, deep-dish pie
    >>> plate. Chopped up some large Gala apples, tossed them with
    >>> cinnamon, ginger, nutmeg, cloves and allspice, and a couple
    >>> tablespoons corn starch. Dumped them into the shell. Cut a
    >>> couple huge Honeycrisp apples into wedges and laid the over
    >>> top of the chopped galas. Sliced some thin and laid them in a
    >>> circle in the center to be the "flower" decoration. Sprinkled
    >>> the spice mixture over the outer, apple-wedge pattern; left the
    >>> center plain. Put dabs of butter all around. Baked at
    >>> 375°.
    >>>
    >>> When it was done, I melted some homemade (very pale-colored)
    >>> grape jelly (1/2 white grapes, 1/2 ruby grapes), added a good
    >>> bit of Applejack and apple juice, and corn starch. Cooked it
    >>> to thicken into a shiny glaze. Poured some into the spaces
    >>> and brushed the whole top with it. Total of 8 apples. Lasted
    >>> through dinner. Warmed, vanilla ice cream.
    >>
    >>
    >> Looks nice. I'd be tempted to call it a galette.
    >

    I wouldn't. Typical galette is very thin - at most, one thin layer
    of fruit with or without heavy glaze - on a crisp crust, usually
    puff pastry or a very short crust; either pate brisee or pate
    sucree. Thin and crunchy. They're open-face [censored], usually round
    and cut into wedges like pizza. They're not baked in forms like
    [censored] pans or pie plates, but flat on baking sheets with a
    self-edge. The crunch is one of the defining elements.

    > Do not go there.Recant now, I beg you. I've been through all
    > that with him, and it's very, very important to Bob that you call
    > it a PIE!!! To him a "[censored]" is hoity toity fancy French food, the
    > word "galette" will have him with steam coming out of every
    > orifice. You do not want to be responsible for his early demise
    > (or your own as he beats you about the head with his culinary
    > vocabulary).

    I'd be self-conscious if I were you, too. But gallant effort,
    however laden with crafted obtuseness.

    Huh? I withdraw the adjective, just make that plain "vocabulary".


    I assume that means you missed the galette explanation above, and so
    many others in this thread. But, yes, I do have a large vocabulary.
    It's all those years of reading books. You should try it.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Ooh, I just love you patronising, competitive Alpha males! Every
    conversation is a competiton that you've gotta win! Makes me feel
    all feminine and fluttery, it does.


    <LOL> I just love that you expect to get away scot-free from the results
    of your own competitive sarcasm. The difference between us is that I've
    offered data and you've offered hilarious if ineffectual indignation.
    Cooking terms are technical terms. They generally have rather
    well-established meanings or applications that seem to have escaped
    you. But hope springs eternal.

    Do you know the difference between a pie plate and a [censored] pan?

    Um well, a I think pie plate is that round dish with the rim on it that
    you I pies in, and a [censored] pan is that round dish with the fluted edge
    and the removable bottom that I cook tartsin, but I'm sure that's the
    wrong answer because I'm just a dumb ignorant woman who hasn't been to
    cooking classes. Why don't you start my education by showing me a
    picture, big boy?

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    Christine But anybody who comes out with "I am a *lady* you know!"
    is asking for trouble, all the same. You have been warned, guys.

    Here's five bucks. Buy yourself something frilly. Don't waste it on
    education.

    Pastorio

    Five bucks? You may know lots about pots and pans, but you know bugger
    all about the cost of lady's things. You ask your wife what you could
    get in the frilly department for five bucks and see what she says.

    Christine
    Who is mightily offended by the thought that she would be seen dead in
    the sort of shop where you can buy $5 frilly things.

  10. Jen said:

    "Old Mother Ashby" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Pastorio


    Looks great, but if I would call it a [censored], not a pie. What do you call
    the version that has a lid on?

    What about a flan? Is that different again? 😉

    Jen


    This is all getting a bit technical, but a flan is, I think, the same as
    a [censored], no lid. Oh dear, I had no idea what I was getting myself into
    with that simple question.

    I'm sure Bob can tell us the difference between a [censored] and a flan, will
    probably insist on doing so.

    Christine
    Who doesn't actually give a rat's what you call the things.

  11. Jen said:

    "Old Mother Ashby" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Looks great, but if I would call it a [censored], not a pie. What do you call
    the version that has a lid on?

    What about a flan? Is that different again? 😉

    There are three distinctly different things called flans by different
    cultures. One type is Hispanic and is an egg custard served with a
    caramel syrup. Another type is a sponge or yellow cake base, baked in a
    special pan, with a raised edge within which to put fruit, creams or
    custards. I saw lots of these in Germany. The other kind is French and
    is another name for a pastry case that in the U.S. might be called a
    [censored] or pie, depending on the vessel in which it's made or the caprices
    of individual nomenclature. In France, what the British would call meat
    pies (single or double crust), are called flans. There are many more
    savory French flans than sweet ones.

    So it could be called a flan, but it wouldn't have much currency in the
    U.S. since it's not a word often used here for that sort of dish. Given
    the increasing Hispanic population, I suspect that the custard version
    is what will pop to mind for most people here, hearing the word.

    Pastorio

  12. Bob (this one) said:

    Made another one tonight with 4 honeycrisp apples and two bosc pears.
    The Kid did the peeling and cutting of fruit and did most of the
    assembly. I rolled and placed the crust in the same 10" pie plate, but
    this time decorated the edges with leaf cutouts rather than to leave it
    as a frill. Glazed with the same jelly. In the fridge now.

    Pastorio

    Apples and pears together in this sort of pie are *divine*! I once
    baked one and the ladies at the club kept asking what kind of
    interesting apples those were in my pie. 🙂 (I kid you not!)

    -L.

  13. Old Mother Ashby said:

    Bob (this one) wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Here's five bucks. Buy yourself something frilly. Don't waste it on
    education.

    Pastorio

    Five bucks? You may know lots about pots and pans, but you know bugger
    all about the cost of lady's things. You ask your wife what you could
    get in the frilly department for five bucks and see what she says.

    I already know.

    Quoted message said:

    Christine
    Who is mightily offended by the thought that she would be seen dead in
    the sort of shop where you can buy $5 frilly things.

    Yes. I know...

    Pastorio

  14. Old Mother Ashby said:

    This is all getting a bit technical, but a flan is, I think, the same as
    a [censored], no lid.

    <LOL> "I don't know, but I'll post my incorrect notion anyway."

    Quoted message said:

    Oh dear, I had no idea what I was getting myself into
    with that simple question.

    And the subsequent insistence...?

    Quoted message said:

    I'm sure Bob can tell us the difference between a [censored] and a flan, will
    probably insist on doing so.

    Already done.

    Quoted message said:

    Christine
    Who doesn't actually give a rat's what you call the things.

    Yes. It's obvious, since you walked away without a backward look...

    Pastorio

  15. -L. said:
    Bob (this one) said:

    Made another one tonight with 4 honeycrisp apples and two bosc pears.
    The Kid did the peeling and cutting of fruit and did most of the
    assembly. I rolled and placed the crust in the same 10" pie plate, but
    this time decorated the edges with leaf cutouts rather than to leave it
    as a frill. Glazed with the same jelly. In the fridge now.

    Pastorio

    Apples and pears together in this sort of pie are *divine*! I once
    baked one and the ladies at the club kept asking what kind of
    interesting apples those were in my pie. 🙂 (I kid you not!)

    I bought a big bag of the pears at Costco. Thus far, we've used them in
    the pie above, poached some and just eaten others out of hand.

    Poached in a combination of white wine and creme de menthe (it came
    maybe an inch up the pears in the saucepan) after peeling and coring
    them. I ran a corer down through the pear starting from the stem, but
    not all the way through. Just removed a core from it and left the bottom
    intact. Filled it with bleu cheese, pine nuts and a bit of fresh mint.
    Poached/steamed in a covered saucepan for about 15 minutes until a
    paring knife went in with little resistance. During the last couple
    minutes, I dropped some bleu cheese into the pan liquid so it would melt
    and make a creamy sauce. Served the pears warm and spooned the sauce
    over top, garnished with chocolate shavings. Wonderful.

    Pastorio

  16. Bob (this one) said:
    Old Mother Ashby said:
    sueb said:

    Bob (this one) wrote:

    > Rolled out a crust and put it into a 10-inch, deep-dish pie plate.
    > Chopped up some large Gala apples, tossed them with cinnamon, ginger,
    > nutmeg, cloves and allspice, and a couple tablespoons corn starch.
    > Dumped them into the shell. Cut a couple huge Honeycrisp apples into
    > wedges and laid the over top of the chopped galas. Sliced some thin and
    > laid them in a circle in the center to be the "flower" decoration.
    > Sprinkled the spice mixture over the outer, apple-wedge pattern; left
    > the center plain. Put dabs of butter all around. Baked at 375°.
    >
    > When it was done, I melted some homemade (very pale-colored) grape jelly
    > (1/2 white grapes, 1/2 ruby grapes), added a good bit of Applejack and
    > apple juice, and corn starch. Cooked it to thicken into a shiny glaze.
    > Poured some into the spaces and brushed the whole top with it. Total of
    > 8 apples. Lasted through dinner. Warmed, vanilla ice cream.
    >
    >
    Looks nice. I'd be tempted to call it a galette.

    I wouldn't. Typical galette is very thin - at most, one thin layer of
    fruit with or without heavy glaze - on a crisp crust, usually puff
    pastry or a very short crust; either pate brisee or pate sucree. Thin
    and crunchy. They're open-face [censored], usually round and cut into wedges

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    or like pie? :-)

    Quoted message said:

    like pizza. They're not baked in forms like [censored] pans or pie plates, but
    flat on baking sheets with a self-edge. The crunch is one of the
    defining elements.

    In my experience, there's no crunchy defining element to a galette.
    It's open faced, usually thin, no glaze, standard pie crust.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Do not go there.Recant now, I beg you. I've been through all that with
    him, and it's very, very important to Bob that you call it a PIE!!!
    To him a "[censored]" is hoity toity fancy French food, the word "galette"
    will have him with steam coming out of every orifice. You do not want to
    be responsible for his early demise (or your own as he beats you about
    the head with his culinary vocabulary).

    Maybe his early demise would lead to fewer posts from dear Dr. Chung.
    That would be a good thing. Keep poking the bear Christine!

    Quoted message said:


    I'd be self-conscious if I were you, too. But gallant effort, however
    laden with crafted obtuseness.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Do Gala's really work well as a baking apple? They seem quite bland to
    me, and I've always stuck to the tarter side of the apple spectrum for
    my pies. We don't have Honeycrisps so maybe that's where the flavor is
    coming from?

    The galas were on the [censored] side. The honeycrisps more sweet and more
    juicy. Both good in the instance, and combined well.

    Clearly you are keeping all the good galas on the east coast. The
    galas I have access to are OK as eating apples but would never be a key
    player in an apple pie.

    Susan B.

  17. Bob (this one) said:

    I bought a big bag of the pears at Costco. Thus far, we've used them in
    the pie above, poached some and just eaten others out of hand.

    Poached in a combination of white wine and creme de menthe (it came
    maybe an inch up the pears in the saucepan) after peeling and coring
    them. I ran a corer down through the pear starting from the stem, but
    not all the way through. Just removed a core from it and left the bottom
    intact. Filled it with bleu cheese, pine nuts and a bit of fresh mint.
    Poached/steamed in a covered saucepan for about 15 minutes until a
    paring knife went in with little resistance. During the last couple
    minutes, I dropped some bleu cheese into the pan liquid so it would melt
    and make a creamy sauce. Served the pears warm and spooned the sauce
    over top, garnished with chocolate shavings. Wonderful.

    I had an interesting pear dessert the other day. My wife picked it up at her
    favourite bakery. It was a pear that had had the bottom cored out and stuffed
    with blue cheese and walnuts, then the bottom was wrapped in pastry and they
    were baked. It was quite good. The only problem is that I have trouble with
    nuts and walnuts are at the very top of my Do Not Eat list. Other than
    having to spit out the nuts, they were great.

  18. Bob (this one) said:
    Old Mother Ashby said:

    This is all getting a bit technical, but a flan is, I think, the same
    as a [censored], no lid.

    <LOL> "I don't know, but I'll post my incorrect notion anyway."

    Quoted message said:

    Oh dear, I had no idea what I was getting myself into with that
    simple question.

    And the subsequent insistence...?

    Quoted message said:

    I'm sure Bob can tell us the difference between a [censored] and a flan,
    will probably insist on doing so.

    Already done.

    Quoted message said:

    Christine
    Who doesn't actually give a rat's what you call the things.

    Yes. It's obvious, since you walked away without a backward look...

    Pastorio

    Well, unlike some people I paid attention at Sunday School and I know
    what happened to Lot's wife.

    Christine
    Who might just have eyes in the back of her head...

  19. Old Mother Ashby said:
    Bob (this one) said:
    Old Mother Ashby said:

    Christine
    Who doesn't actually give a rat's what you call the things.

    Yes. It's obvious, since you walked away without a backward look...

    Pastorio

    Well, unlike some people I paid attention at Sunday School and I know
    what happened to Lot's wife.

    Christine
    Who might just have eyes in the back of her head...

    <LOL> Irrelevant but clever.

    Wanna piece of pie? Apples and pears. Very luscious. Tea to go with it...?

    Pastorio

  20. sueb said:
    Bob (this one) said:
    Old Mother Ashby said:

    sueb wrote:

    >Bob (this one) wrote:
    >
    >
    >>Rolled out a crust and put it into a 10-inch, deep-dish pie plate.
    >>Chopped up some large Gala apples, tossed them with cinnamon, ginger,
    >>nutmeg, cloves and allspice, and a couple tablespoons corn starch.
    >>Dumped them into the shell. Cut a couple huge Honeycrisp apples into
    >>wedges and laid the over top of the chopped galas. Sliced some thin and
    >>laid them in a circle in the center to be the "flower" decoration.
    >>Sprinkled the spice mixture over the outer, apple-wedge pattern; left
    >>the center plain. Put dabs of butter all around. Baked at 375°.
    >>
    >>When it was done, I melted some homemade (very pale-colored) grape jelly
    >>(1/2 white grapes, 1/2 ruby grapes), added a good bit of Applejack and
    >>apple juice, and corn starch. Cooked it to thicken into a shiny glaze.
    >>Poured some into the spaces and brushed the whole top with it. Total of
    >>8 apples. Lasted through dinner. Warmed, vanilla ice cream.
    >>
    >>
    >
    >Looks nice. I'd be tempted to call it a galette.

    I wouldn't. Typical galette is very thin - at most, one thin layer of
    fruit with or without heavy glaze - on a crisp crust, usually puff
    pastry or a very short crust; either pate brisee or pate sucree. Thin
    and crunchy. They're open-face [censored], usually round and cut into wedges


    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Quoted message said:

    or like pie? :-)

    Quoted message said:

    like pizza. They're not baked in forms like [censored] pans or pie plates, but
    flat on baking sheets with a self-edge. The crunch is one of the
    defining elements.

    In my experience, there's no crunchy defining element to a galette.
    It's open faced, usually thin, no glaze, standard pie crust.

    That's one kind, as I described above. Not the most common. But that
    "thin" criterion immediately disqualifies the two-apple pie from that
    name. It was very deep as such things go

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Do not go there.Recant now, I beg you. I've been through all that with
    him, and it's very, very important to Bob that you call it a PIE!!!
    To him a "[censored]" is hoity toity fancy French food, the word "galette"
    will have him with steam coming out of every orifice. You do not want to
    be responsible for his early demise (or your own as he beats you about
    the head with his culinary vocabulary).

    Maybe his early demise would lead to fewer posts from dear Dr. Chung.
    That would be a good thing. Keep poking the bear Christine!

    If you have a moment, you could bite me. Maybe that would keep Chung
    away. Who knows? Brilliant, blaming me for the actions of someone else.
    Wonderful, wishing for my demise. Splendid, encouraging strife and
    combat. You're doing really well today.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I'd be self-conscious if I were you, too. But gallant effort, however
    laden with crafted obtuseness.

    Quoted message said:

    >Do Gala's really work well as a baking apple? They seem quite bland to
    >me, and I've always stuck to the tarter side of the apple spectrum for
    >my pies. We don't have Honeycrisps so maybe that's where the flavor is
    >coming from?

    The galas were on the [censored] side. The honeycrisps more sweet and more
    juicy. Both good in the instance, and combined well.

    Clearly you are keeping all the good galas on the east coast. The
    galas I have access to are OK as eating apples but would never be a key
    player in an apple pie.

    We are. And until you learn how to play with others, you don't get any
    of the goods ones.

    Pastorio

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