Twinlab's Super E-Complex any good?

Does it have selenium? I tried something like that, and,
strangely, I had spasms while trying to sleep after it

You can blame the laws which protect the supplement biz for
this. You can bnot be sure the label really reflects
contents and even if it is 400 iu as you have seen it
doesn't say which form. Different batches can be from
different sources and all are mixed but all are mixed
differently as to ratio of each. You are left not being able
to be an informed consumer.

Quoted message said:

I'm shopping for a good Vitamin E supplement and I bumped
into this one. The description says:

"One softgel supplies 400 IU of 100% natural vitamin E from
mixed tocopherols. Contains the entire complex of naturally
occurring unesterified mixed tocopherols (d-alpha, d-beta,
d-delta and d-gamma)."

It doesn't say how much d-alpha, d-beta, d-delta, and d-
gamma on each softgel.

The toad doesn't know what he talking about as usual. The
government regulations reflect old science and not a short
coming of the statutes (here in the States) in the matter of
vitamin e vitamers. Just look at what the EU boys want to
do. They want to only permit the alpha vitamer and would
likely prohibit the beta, gamma and delta vitamers.

If it doesn't say, it is reasonable to assume the other
vitamer occur at only low levels. One can buy supplement
that state all the various vitamin E vitamer amounts on the
label. Even Walmart sells such a supplement, if you bother
to look and are willing to pay.

Screw the toad into a light
socket..............William A. Noyes

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Quoted message said:

You can blame the laws which protect the supplement biz
for this. You can bnot be sure the label really reflects
contents and even if it is 400 iu as you have seen it
doesn't say which form. Different batches can be from
different sources and all are mixed but all are mixed
differently as to ratio of each. You are left not being
able to be an informed consumer.

Quoted message said:

I'm shopping for a good Vitamin E supplement and I bumped
into this one. The description says:

"One softgel supplies 400 IU of 100% natural vitamin E
from mixed tocopherols. Contains the entire complex of
naturally occurring unesterified mixed tocopherols (d-
alpha, d-beta, d-delta and d-gamma)."

It doesn't say how much d-alpha, d-beta, d-delta, and d-
gamma on each softgel.

The fda didn't say what could be on the label of the product
in question, and that is the problem from an informed
consumer perspective. The rest of your strawman is
irrelevant as it was not part of the original question or my
responce pointing the failure of current law, nay it's
forbidding to make possible what the person wanted to know.

Quoted message said:

The government regulations reflect old science and not a
short coming of the statutes (here in the States) in the
matter of vitamin e vitamers. Just look at what the EU boys
want to do. They want to only permit the alpha vitamer and
would likely prohibit the beta, gamma and delta vitamers.

If it doesn't say, it is reasonable to assume the other
vitamer occur at only low levels. One can buy supplement
that state all the various vitamin E vitamer amounts on the
label. Even Walmart sells such a supplement, if you bother
to look and are willing to pay.

Screw the toad into a light
socket..............William A. Noyes

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net.com...

Quoted message said:

You can blame the laws which protect the supplement biz
for this. You can bnot be sure the label really reflects
contents and even if it is 400 iu as you have seen it
doesn't say which form. Different batches can be from
different sources and all are mixed but all are mixed
differently as to ratio of each. You are left not being
able to be an informed consumer.

Quoted message said:

I'm shopping for a good Vitamin E supplement and I
bumped into this one. The description says:

"One softgel supplies 400 IU of 100% natural vitamin E
from mixed tocopherols. Contains the entire complex of
naturally occurring unesterified mixed tocopherols (d-
alpha, d-beta, d-delta and d-gamma)."

It doesn't say how much d-alpha, d-beta, d-delta, and
d-gamma on each softgel.

The EU is no strawman/strawperson. It is quite real. And
with trade agreements of the new world commerical order
could possibly impose its will on the U.S.A. Such things
have already taken place or are in the courts of Canada,
U.S.A. and Mexico under the NAFTA agreeement.

The current law didn't fail. You're just too cheap to buy a
high quality product. I've been buying high gamma E for some
years now. Unless a supplement states the amounts of other
vitamers it is reasonable to assume that their levels are
quite low. In Walmart, there is exactly on brand of mixed
tocopherols that states amounts of the various vitamers.

You assume the FDA has the mindset to have supplement makers
to include information on the other vitamin E vitamers on
the label. It is a baseless assumption at best.

Screw the Toad into a light socket.............
.....................................William A. Noyes

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Quoted message said:

The fda didn't say what could be on the label of the
product in question, and that is the problem from an
informed consumer perspective. The rest of your strawman
is irrelevant as it was not part of the original question
or my responce pointing the failure of current law, nay
it's forbidding to make possible what the person wanted
to know.

Quoted message said:

The government regulations reflect old science and not a
short coming of the statutes (here in the States) in the
matter of vitamin e vitamers. Just look at what the EU
boys want to do. They want to only permit the alpha
vitamer and would likely prohibit the beta, gamma and
delta vitamers.

If it doesn't say, it is reasonable to assume the other
vitamer occur at only low levels. One can buy supplement
that state all the various vitamin E vitamer amounts on
the label. Even Walmart sells such a supplement, if you
bother to look and are willing to pay.

Screw the toad into a light socket..............William
A. Noyes

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net.com...

Quoted message said:

You can blame the laws which protect the supplement biz
for this. You

can

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bnot be sure the label really reflects contents and
even if it is 400

iu

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as you have seen it doesn't say which form. Different
batches can be

from

Quoted message said:

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Quoted message said:

different sources and all are mixed but all are mixed
differently as to ratio of each. You are left not being
able to be an informed consumer.

>I'm shopping for a good Vitamin E supplement and I
>bumped into this one. The description says:
>
>"One softgel supplies 400 IU of 100% natural vitamin E
>from mixed tocopherols. Contains the entire complex of
>naturally occurring unesterified mixed tocopherols (d-
>alpha, d-beta, d-delta and d-gamma)."
>
>It doesn't say how much d-alpha, d-beta, d-delta, and
>d-gamma on each softgel.

On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 19:58:24 -0700, "William A. Noyes"
<[email hidden]> posted:

Quoted message said:

Screw the Toad into a light socket.............
.....................................William A. Noyes

Did you learn this trick from Gohde?

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Quoted message said:

On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 19:58:24 -0700, "William A. Noyes"
<[email hidden]> posted:

Quoted message said:

Screw the Toad into a light socket.............
.....................................William A. Noyes

Did you learn this trick from Gohde?

Well, yes for him and you as well.

I note you avoided a response to the body of the message.

On Sat, 17 Apr 2004 23:55:27 -0700, "William A. Noyes"
<[email hidden]> posted:

Quoted message said:

"Moosh🙂" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 19:58:24 -0700, "William A. Noyes"
<[email hidden]> posted:

Quoted message said:

Screw the Toad into a light socket.............
.....................................William A. Noyes

Did you learn this trick from Gohde?

Well, yes for him and you as well.

I note you avoided a response to the body of the message.

Wrong preposition above, and not interesting....