Tuscany & Liguria

"Melba's Jammin'" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I've eaten pasta, pesto, sea bream, wee clams, gnocchi, ham, wild boar,
incredible pancetta, and a couple other sausages the names of which
escape me, and drank reds and whites.

Cinque Terre was too much walking for my bad ankle and what used to be
an okay knee.

My Italian accent is fine. '-) and the bus driver rules! "Massimo il
Massimo."

Old Slovak saying: "Everywhere is good; home is best."
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-Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
Dinner at Yummy! 9-15-2007 Pictures included.

Sounds like fun. We're leaving for Italy tomorrow and will be in Tuscany by
the end of next week. What towns in Tuscany were your favorites? Restaurant
& winery recommendations?

Thanks,
Jon

Melba's Jammin said:

I've eaten pasta, pesto, sea bream, wee clams, gnocchi, ham, wild boar,
incredible pancetta, and a couple other sausages the names of which
escape me, and drank reds and whites.

I demand meticulous details! Now!

Bubba

On Thu, 4 Oct 2007 23:54:53 +0200, [email hidden] (Victor Sack)

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Melba's Jammin said:

I've eaten pasta, pesto, sea bream, wee clams, gnocchi, ham, wild boar,
incredible pancetta, and a couple other sausages the names of which
escape me, and drank reds and whites.

I demand meticulous details! Now!

Bubba

Me too🙂

Hope it was really fun Barb, bus et al.

aloha,
Cea
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On Oct 4, 11:13 am, Melba's Jammin' <[email hidden]>

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I've eaten pasta, pesto, sea bream, wee clams, gnocchi, ham, wild boar,
incredible pancetta, and a couple other sausages the names of which
escape me, and drank reds and whites.

Cinque Terre was too much walking for my bad ankle and what used to be
an okay knee.

My Italian accent is fine. '-) and the bus driver rules! "Massimo il
Massimo."

Old Slovak saying: "Everywhere is good; home is best."
--
-Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
Dinner at Yummy! 9-15-2007 Pictures included.

I'm envious. . .Italy is on my "must travel" list. And, you were
precisely, in the area, I wish most to be. I've been fascinated with
the Cinque Terre, and also the Amalfi Coast. How many miles would you
say are between towns of the Cinque Terre?

I've also heard that maschismo is alive and well in Italy;-)

Myrl

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Sounds like fun. We're leaving for Italy tomorrow and will be in Tuscany
by the end of next week. What towns in Tuscany were your favorites?
Restaurant & winery recommendations?

Thanks,
Jon

On our last trip we stayed a week in Rosano, about 15 minutes outside of
Florence.

Any restaurant is a good choice, any local wine is a good choice. If you
see a winery, just stop.

Seriously, there are probably 500+ wine labels and in one store they sold
from $1.75 to $12.00 and even the low end ones were decent. Do not be
afraid of ordering the house wine either. I had some that was less than 2
Euro a liter from the local vintner but in his bottle with the Chianti label
it sells for 10 Euro. Some places just put a pitcher on the table and you
drink what you want for a very reasonable price.

I've never had a bad meal in Italy either. That includes meals that were $4
for the two of us up to $150 for the two of us.

A very good inexpensive meal is to go to a local store and buy a hunk of
cheese, bread, some salami and a bottle of wine. We did that most days for
one meal.

Don't forget the gelato.

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I've eaten pasta, pesto, sea bream, wee clams, gnocchi, ham, wild boar,
incredible pancetta, and a couple other sausages the names of which
escape me, and drank reds and whites.

Cinque Terre was too much walking for my bad ankle and what used to be
an okay knee.

My Italian accent is fine. '-) and the bus driver rules! "Massimo il
Massimo."

Old Slovak saying: "Everywhere is good; home is best."
--
-Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
Dinner at Yummy! 9-15-2007 Pictures included.

Glad you had a good time. How about some details of your favorite spots?

Thanks for confirming my decision to skip Chinque Terre. My wife cannot
walk far so we passed on it.

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A very good inexpensive meal is to go to a local store and buy a hunk of
cheese, bread, some salami and a bottle of wine. We did that most days
for one meal.

Don't forget the gelato.

But you can't come in Italy to eat bread and salami!
😄DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
At least "Pane e mortadella" !
I know that in America you don't like very much "Bologna", but you have to
taste a Mortadella di Bologna (buyed in Italy) inside a very crispy bread
(like rosetta ) or inside a focaccia.

--
Kisses
Pandora

Pandora said:

But you can't come in Italy to eat bread and salami!
😄DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
At least "Pane e mortadella" !
I know that in America you don't like very much "Bologna", but you have to
taste a Mortadella di Bologna (buyed in Italy) inside a very crispy bread
(like rosetta ) or inside a focaccia.

So true. Americans don't like bologna because what's available
here is of such terrible quality. It's really quite good
when made with care using good quality ingredients, instead
of in huge factories.

And yes, mortadella is marvelous. I make my own version,
but it's not as good as the best Italian brands. Never! 🙂

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Reg

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Pandora said:

But you can't come in Italy to eat bread and salami!
😄DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
At least "Pane e mortadella" !
I know that in America you don't like very much "Bologna", but you have
to taste a Mortadella di Bologna (buyed in Italy) inside a very crispy
bread (like rosetta ) or inside a focaccia.

So true. Americans don't like bologna because what's available
here is of such terrible quality.

I can imagine!

It's really quite good

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when made with care using good quality ingredients, instead
of in huge factories.

I think you are right 🙂

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And yes, mortadella is marvelous. I make my own version,
but it's not as good as the best Italian brands. Never! 🙂

Do you make mortadella by yourself? WONDERFUL! You are very good! Send me
some pics, if you can!

--
Kisses
Pandora

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Reg

Pandora said:

At least "Pane e mortadella" !
I know that in America you don't like very much "Bologna", but you
have to taste a Mortadella di Bologna (buyed in Italy) inside a very
crispy bread (like rosetta ) or inside a focaccia.

Have you ever had mortadella from Pasquini & Brusiani? It's the best I've
ever had, incredible, but not going to last for long: the two owners of this
operation are about 80 years old each...
Theyr workshop is in Bologna, it's almost impossible to find them in
supermarket, just deli shops or top notch restaurants. I had it a couple
years ago on a couple of occasions, it's marvelous!
Ths econd occasion has been when I went to Bologna with a friend who lives
there, and collected 11Kg of this wonderful product to bring home and share
with friends.
--
Vilco
Think pink, drink rose'

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Pandora said:

At least "Pane e mortadella" !
I know that in America you don't like very much "Bologna", but you
have to taste a Mortadella di Bologna (buyed in Italy) inside a very
crispy bread (like rosetta ) or inside a focaccia.

Have you ever had mortadella from Pasquini & Brusiani? It's the best I've
ever had, incredible, but not going to last for long: the two owners of
this operation are about 80 years old each...
Theyr workshop is in Bologna, it's almost impossible to find them in
supermarket, just deli shops or top notch restaurants. I had it a couple
years ago on a couple of occasions, it's marvelous!
Ths econd occasion has been when I went to Bologna with a friend who lives
there, and collected 11Kg of this wonderful product to bring home and
share with friends.
--
Vilco
Think pink, drink rose'

Why do you tell me this things, if I can't find it
🙁(((((((((((((((((((((( ????????
I have never heard of Pasquini and Brusiani, I must google to find them 🙂
Now I Am very hungry and I want it!!!!!!

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Kisses
Pandora

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Have you ever had mortadella from Pasquini & Brusiani? It's the best I've

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ever had, incredible, but not going to last for long: the two owners of
this operation are about 80 years old each...
Theyr workshop is in Bologna, it's almost impossible to find them in
supermarket, just deli shops or top notch restaurants. I had it a couple
years ago on a couple of occasions, it's marvelous!
Ths econd occasion has been when I went to Bologna with a friend who lives
there, and collected 11Kg of this wonderful product to bring home and
share with friends.
--
Vilco

Why did I think you were from Bologna? Are you from somewhere else in
Emilia Romagna?
I haven't had that and I will look for it.

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http://www.judithgreenwood.com

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And yes, mortadella is marvelous. I make my own version,
but it's not as good as the best Italian brands. Never! 🙂

Do you make mortadella by yourself? WONDERFUL! You are very good! Send me
some pics, if you can!

Sure. Here's a batch of my smoked bologna (which is to say,
mortadella without the garnish).

http://i24.tinypic.com/svjfig.jpg
http://i22.tinypic.com/2evg4jk.jpg
http://i23.tinypic.com/2mdpcuw.jpg

The proof that Americans only eat horrible, nasty bologna from
supermarkets, and wouldn't know the real thing if it ran up and bit
them, is that so many of them tell me, "Bologna is terrible, but
mortadella is really good". Usually expressed in an incredulous
tone, I might add.

Well, bologna and mortadella are made from exactly the same stuff in
exactly the same way. Mortadella just has a garnish (the solid stuff)
mixed in. Cured fat pieces (lardo), and sometimes pistachio. Other
than that it's the same.

The reason that people think mortadella is good is because the
version they eat is almost always hand made by artesans. If you
ever have properly made bologna you'll like it as much as mortadella.
The stuff has been so badly abused by the food factories that
people don't know what the real thing is anymore.

Not in Italy though, Thank God 🙂

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Reg

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But you can't come in Italy to eat bread and salami!
😄DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
At least "Pane e mortadella" !
I know that in America you don't like very much "Bologna", but you have to
taste a Mortadella di Bologna (buyed in Italy) inside a very crispy bread
(like rosetta ) or inside a focaccia.

--
Kisses
Pandora

Sophia Loren movie "La Liberty" 1972 regarding Mortadella

TV review:

"Another Italian comedy .... . Sophia Loren arrives in the U.S. carrying a
large Mortadella sausage from her hometown of Bologna as a gift for him.
When U.S. customs officials forbid Loren to bring the sausage into the
country, she explodes and almost causes an international incident."

Dee Dee

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But you can't come in Italy to eat bread and salami!
😄DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
At least "Pane e mortadella" !
I know that in America you don't like very much "Bologna", but you have to
taste a Mortadella di Bologna (buyed in Italy) inside a very crispy bread
(like rosetta ) or inside a focaccia.

--
Kisses
Pandora

Oh, we had our share of that also, as well as prosciutto, both crudo and
cotto.

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And yes, mortadella is marvelous. I make my own version,
but it's not as good as the best Italian brands. Never! 🙂

Do you make mortadella by yourself? WONDERFUL! You are very good! Send me
some pics, if you can!

Sure. Here's a batch of my smoked bologna (which is to say,
mortadella without the garnish).

http://i24.tinypic.com/svjfig.jpg
http://i22.tinypic.com/2evg4jk.jpg
http://i23.tinypic.com/2mdpcuw.jpg

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! I beg you sell them! They are not so
beautiful to see, but sure they are very good!!!!!

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The proof that Americans only eat horrible, nasty bologna from
supermarkets, and wouldn't know the real thing if it ran up and bit
them, is that so many of them tell me, "Bologna is terrible, but
mortadella is really good". Usually expressed in an incredulous
tone, I might add.

I would like to see a pic of this american Bologna 🙂

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Well, bologna and mortadella are made from exactly the same stuff in
exactly the same way. Mortadella just has a garnish (the solid stuff)
mixed in. Cured fat pieces (lardo), and sometimes pistachio. Other
than that it's the same.

Here you can find mortadella with or without pistachios, but there are black
pepper grains in each of them .

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The reason that people think mortadella is good is because the
version they eat is almost always hand made by artesans. If you
ever have properly made bologna you'll like it as much as mortadella.
The stuff has been so badly abused by the food factories that
people don't know what the real thing is anymore.

Oh! I think so! Because they can mix inside all the meat they want (and I
don't want to say what kind of meat... for my respect for the animals)

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Not in Italy though, Thank God 🙂

Thank you Reg! You are a very good Artisan, then! Many compliments and thank
you for lovely pics!

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Kisses
Pandora

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But you can't come in Italy to eat bread and salami!
😄DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
At least "Pane e mortadella" !
I know that in America you don't like very much "Bologna", but you have
to taste a Mortadella di Bologna (buyed in Italy) inside a very crispy
bread (like rosetta ) or inside a focaccia.

--
Kisses
Pandora

Sophia Loren movie "La Liberty" 1972 regarding Mortadella

TV review:

"Another Italian comedy .... . Sophia Loren arrives in the U.S. carrying a
large Mortadella sausage from her hometown of Bologna as a gift for him.
When U.S. customs officials forbid Loren to bring the sausage into the
country, she explodes and almost causes an international incident."

Dee Dee

AHAHAH!!!! I have never seen this film, or perhaps yes and I don't remember.
I must see it
Thank you

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Kisses
Pandora

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But you can't come in Italy to eat bread and salami!
😄DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
At least "Pane e mortadella" !
I know that in America you don't like very much "Bologna", but you have
to taste a Mortadella di Bologna (buyed in Italy) inside a very crispy
bread (like rosetta ) or inside a focaccia.

--
Kisses
Pandora

Oh, we had our share of that also, as well as prosciutto, both crudo and
cotto.

So when you will come to visit Italy, I will invite all of you and I will
make a good menu:
Horsdoeuvre: Bread and salami
First dish: Bread and Mortadella
Second dish: bread and lonza (I like this one!!!!!)
side dish: Bread and raw ham
Dessert: bread and cooked ham

😄DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

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Kisses
Pandora

Giusi said:

Why did I think you were from Bologna? Are you from somewhere else in
Emilia Romagna?

Yes, Reggio nell'Emilia, 60km west from Bologna.

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I haven't had that and I will look for it.

It's incredible, best mortadella ever, one could eat half a Kg of it without
even noticing the amount...
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Vilco
Think pink, drink rose'