Turnbull takes the train

Step in the right direction - well done Mr Turnbull!!!!!

Now, they just have to make PT, bikes, etc availablte under salary
sacrifice (and FBT free please!!), and it will be even better!!!!!!!

Abby (dreaming...)

often wondered why MPs arent forced to use the very public services they tell us are doing a great job.
PT, Public Hospitals, Public Schools, etc
might make them see/experience the horror first-hand...

On 2006-04-18, cfsmtb (aka Bruce)
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:

Quoted message said:

Reported in The Shun, maybe he's just a few steps away from a bike as
well ... 🙂 Sheesh, what sort of daily driver + nice commuter gear
could Turnbull get for 20K? 😉

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Turnbull gets $20K for transport
http://tinyurl.com/sx82s

FEDERAL Liberal MP Malcolm Turnbull has become so fed up with Sydney's
traffic congestion he has ditched his taxpayer-funded car and opted for
public transport.

Mr Turnbull has won the right to forgo his car and will instead receive

"won the right to forgo his car"?

Quoted message said:

almost $20,000 a year to use on buses, trains, taxis or ferries for his
parliamentary, electoral or official business.

Sweeet! I take it he's going to buy a few hundred yearly tickets, and
distribute them to his enterage?

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Previously, MPs using public transport and taxis for business were
unable to claim back the cost.

That was so very bogus. What on Earth led them to have that as a rule
originally? Thank goodness sanity has prevailed.

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Save the whales. Feed the hungry. Free the mallocs. --unknown

cfsmtb said:

The tribunal's ruling requires Mr Turnbull to keep receipts or copies
of tickets to account for his expenses on public transport.

That should make interestng viewing as he tries to retrieve a receipt or
ticket at the automatic vending machine/turnstyles. I suppose they have
to set up a special MPs lane at Eastern Suburbs railway stations for
Malcolm and his mates.

P

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Peter McCallum
Mackay Qld AUSTRALIA

Peter McCallum said:

c
I suppose they have
to set up a special MPs lane at Eastern Suburbs railway stations for
Malcolm and his mates.

extra wide, you mean?

re all this tax stuff, another thing that occurred to me (outting BV bias here...) why not make employees of Not-for-Profit organisations that are clearly contributing/working for the community tax free?
As many of these org's struggle to compete with commercial workplaces for the best talent, it would be easier to attract em if they could compete on the same level of remunierationif not having to pay their staff tax (or at least a lot less!). These people's contributions would far outweigh the tax revenue not paid to MrCostello in the work they do.

Oh, and make bikes tax free too 😄

iaijakarta:

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stupidity

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flyingdutch said:

re all this tax stuff, another thing that occurred to me (outting BV bias here...) why not make employees of Not-for-Profit organisations that are clearly contributing/working for the community tax free?

😄

'cause every 'businessman' who currently minimises his tax by using complexes of trusts and companies would cease to pay any tax at all by using not-for-profits*.

Steve(*grumpy because I have sore foot and cannot ride at the moment)A

SteveA said:

'cause every 'businessman' who currently minimises his tax by using complexes of trusts and companies would cease to pay any tax at all by using not-for-profits*.

Steve(*grumpy because I have sore foot and cannot ride at the moment)A

yers, well of course the boundaries of what is a 'NFP' would be tightened accordingly...

"Behind every rich man is a fat, nerdy, little accountant who measures everything with numbers. Values will only be attributed thus, hence if you cant label it, you shall not value it"

On 2006-04-18, Donga (aka Bruce)
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:

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iaijakarta:

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stupidity

Please note you are being reported to your employer:

Please send this form to: Conference Secretary, Traditions
and Modernity, Department of Architecture, University of
Tasmania, PO Box 1214, Launceston, Tas. 7250, Australia.

Except that it's Rogger Bratton using a forged email address.

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iaijakarta:

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stupidity

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TimC:

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Except that it's Rogger Bratton using a forged email address.

Have you worked out where he lives?

Donga said:

TimC:

Quoted message said:

Except that it's Rogger Bratton using a forged email address.

Have you worked out where he lives?

Just ignore the twit.

Donga said:

TimC:

Quoted message said:

Except that it's Rogger Bratton using a forged email address.

Have you worked out where he lives?

google it. he even gets a map!

flyingdutch said:

Peter McCallum said:

c
I suppose they have
to set up a special MPs lane at Eastern Suburbs railway stations for
Malcolm and his mates.

extra wide, you mean?

Of course, with appropriately coloured leather trim.

Quoted message said:

re all this tax stuff, another thing that occurred to me (outting BV
bias here...) why not make employees of Not-for-Profit organisations
that are clearly contributing/working for the community tax free?
As many of these org's struggle to compete with commercial workplaces
for the best talent, it would be easier to attract em if they could
compete on the same level of remunierationif not having to pay their
staff tax (or at least a lot less!). These people's contributions would
far outweigh the tax revenue not paid to MrCostello in the work they
do.

Oh, and make bikes tax free too 😄

I can see what you mean but I reckon it's mainly the careerists in
community organisations who demand remuneration that is comparable with
private companies (or even government). One of the beauties of the
community sector is that it is democratic and not dominated by
"professionals".

Then again there are people working just about full time for community
organisations for next to nothing because they believe in the cause. If
the organisations had a bit more money they could probably pay a bit
more. Some extra grant money could always go a long way.

It was interesting to see how much the Federal Government "rationalised"
the Grants to Voluntary Conservation & Heritage Organisations program
last year. What was a tiny grants program, by federal govt standards,
became even smaller. It seemed to target the groups that were most vocal
for the biggest cuts.

P

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Mackay Qld AUSTRALIA

flyingdutch said:

yers, well of course the boundaries of what is a 'NFP' would be tightened accordingly...

"Behind every rich man is a fat, nerdy, little accountant who measures everything with numbers. Values will only be attributed thus, hence if you cant label it, you shall not value it"

change in legislation = more income for lawyers and accountants + more opportunities for new ways to circumvent the rules

The current superannuation regulatory legislation is called the Superannuation Industry (Supervision) Act. It is referred to as the 'SIS Act' for short. When it was introduced, it was also known as the 'Solicitors' Income Supplementation Act'!!

Steve(cynical accountant/lawyer/ex-financial regulator)A

flyingdutch said:

Peter McCallum said:

c
I suppose they have
to set up a special MPs lane at Eastern Suburbs railway stations for
Malcolm and his mates.

extra wide, you mean?

re all this tax stuff, another thing that occurred to me (outting BV
bias here...) why not make employees of Not-for-Profit organisations
that are clearly contributing/working for the community tax free?
As many of these org's struggle to compete with commercial workplaces
for the best talent, it would be easier to attract em if they could
compete on the same level of remunierationif not having to pay their
staff tax (or at least a lot less!). These people's contributions would
far outweigh the tax revenue not paid to MrCostello in the work they
do.

Employees of "public benevolent institutions" already get concessional
tax treatment, in the form of an exemption on fringe benefits tax up to
a certain annual limit. Because there is no FBT, anything can be
salary packaged (tax free), including for example mortgage payments and
credit card bills.

Not all N-f-P organisations are treated as full PBIs and there are
various levels of PBI with different FBT exemption thresholds, but the
scheme you describe already exists.

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Oh, and make bikes tax free too 😄

If you're an employee of a PBI, you could package a bike within the
limit.

What you probably mean is make them tax free for EVERYONE. I agree
with that one. 🙂

Travis

TimC said:

That was so very bogus. What on Earth led them to have that as a rule
originally? Thank goodness sanity has prevailed.

Because MPs got a car as perk and that was that.

Why have an FBT system with discounts for cars that increase the more you
use it yet fully taxes train and bus tickets given to employees?

Why have a tarif discount on 4WD registered in urban areas?

There are lots of stupid subsidies around.

dewatf.

Absent Husband said:

Step in the right direction - well done Mr Turnbull!!!!!

Now, they just have to make PT, bikes, etc availablte under salary
sacrifice (and FBT free please!!), and it will be even better!!!!!!!

Abby (dreaming...)

Are you sure bikes are subject to FBT. I was told motorbikes weren't by
someone who should know

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Travis said:

flyingdutch said:

Peter McCallum said:

c
I suppose they have
to set up a special MPs lane at Eastern Suburbs railway stations for
Malcolm and his mates.

extra wide, you mean?

re all this tax stuff, another thing that occurred to me (outting BV
bias here...) why not make employees of Not-for-Profit organisations
that are clearly contributing/working for the community tax free?
As many of these org's struggle to compete with commercial workplaces
for the best talent, it would be easier to attract em if they could
compete on the same level of remunierationif not having to pay their
staff tax (or at least a lot less!). These people's contributions would
far outweigh the tax revenue not paid to MrCostello in the work they
do.

Employees of "public benevolent institutions" already get concessional
tax treatment, in the form of an exemption on fringe benefits tax up to
a certain annual limit. Because there is no FBT, anything can be
salary packaged (tax free), including for example mortgage payments and
credit card bills.

Not all N-f-P organisations are treated as full PBIs and there are
various levels of PBI with different FBT exemption thresholds, but the
scheme you describe already exists.

Quoted message said:

Oh, and make bikes tax free too 😄

If you're an employee of a PBI, you could package a bike within the
limit.

What you probably mean is make them tax free for EVERYONE. I agree
with that one. 🙂

Travis

I don't think that BV or any bicycle advocacy group would fit the
definition of a Public Benevolent Institution (unless it was in the
business of giving free bicycles to poor people for instance, or
teaching disabled people to ride).

P

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Mackay Qld AUSTRALIA