**tuna warning**

Fish! - THE Aristocrat. said:

In article <[email hidden]>,
[email hidden] says...

Quoted message said:

Hey guys,

[...]

Somethingsomething tuna rant!

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

it's egg whites or chicken breast for me from now on. I hope this reaches
someone as I would've liked to know 10 years ago!

Cov

So you acknowledge these 'stories' we've all heard, and yet wanted
warnings on the can, saying DON'T EAT IT MORE THAN ONCE A
WEEK, and then

[...]

Quoted message said:

OF MERCURY POISONING, MAYBE, BECAUSE SOMEONE ON A
NEWSGROUP SAYS SO"

heh

Someone named ~*Fish*~ [censored] at a guy with "tuna" poisoning! If
this isn't the [censored] NEWSGROUP EVER then I don't know what is.

Awesome!

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"Karnov" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

If you think all these mercury poisoning stories are [censored], and like a
lot of
lifters you eat a lot of fish and you feel OK, take a test! I woke up
quickly.
I've been having 2-4 cans of tuna a day for the last 7-8 years or so,
given that
it's a nice inexpensive, easily accessible, easily edible and abundant
source of
protein. Though I have no negative symptoms yet, I recently went for a
test
because my wife was worried. So my blood tests show that I have 26
micrograms/liter. You're supposed to only have 5-6! And I've actually
been
eating less tuna than ever now that I'm married and my wife cooks - I've
'only'
had it once a day for the last 8 months or so. Even if I totally stop
now, I'm
at risk for the delayed onset of mercury poisoning (sometimes it takes
years
until you develop symptoms).

None of which shows conclusively that the mecury poisoning stories aren't
B.S. Significant adverse effects may or may not follow from blood levels
above what you're "supposed" to have. Are there any confirmed cases of
adverse health effects due to consmuption of mercury via tuna?

For those who want to play it safe anyway, sardines, which are much smaller
and lower on the food chain, may be a good alternative.

--
Brandon Berg
Fix the obvious homonym substitution to reply.

Karnov said:

Hey guys,

If you think all these mercury poisoning stories are [censored], and like a lot of
lifters you eat a lot of fish and you feel OK, take a test! I woke up quickly.
I've been having 2-4 cans of tuna a day for the last 7-8 years or so, given that
it's a nice inexpensive, easily accessible, easily edible and abundant source of
protein. Though I have no negative symptoms yet, I recently went for a test
because my wife was worried. So my blood tests show that I have 26
micrograms/liter. You're supposed to only have 5-6! And I've actually been
eating less tuna than ever now that I'm married and my wife cooks - I've 'only'
had it once a day for the last 8 months or so. Even if I totally stop now, I'm
at risk for the delayed onset of mercury poisoning (sometimes it takes years
until you develop symptoms).

What is [censored] is that there are no warnings on tuna cans saying not to eat a
whole can more than once a week, when there are plenty of warnings on say
bottles of aspirin for something as obscure as reye's syndrome in kids under 18
who take aspirin.

I guess I'm going to have be less lazy and start cooking things. It looks like
it's egg whites or chicken breast for me from now on. I hope this reaches
someone as I would've liked to know 10 years ago!

Cov

what size cans? There are a range, and 2 of the small single serving
size isn't all that much tuna.

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That's why I just live by this rule:

Moderation is the key to everything.

Karnov said:

I've been having 2-4 cans of tuna a day for the last 7-8 years or so,
given that it's a nice inexpensive, easily accessible, easily edible and
abundant source of protein.

If I ate twenty-eight cans of tuna a week for eight years, I'd die of
boredom before the mercury ever got me. Sheesh.

I've been eating salmon salad sandwiches more lately instead of my tuna
salad sandwiches. One thing I like is that it is easier to use the big
can of salmon than draining the two cans of tuna. I have thought about
the mercury though. I have read that Salmon do not contain much
mercury. Farmed Salmon can contain high levels of dioxins; I guess
there is no such thing as a free lunch.
Anyway, I enjoy salmon salad sandwiches and I get a lot of protein
and Omega-3 Fatty acids from them. Information on Salmon can be found
at:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salmon

James

"skunker" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

That's why I just live by this rule:

Moderation is the key to everything.

I use moderation in moderation

In article <[email hidden]>, spodosaurus says...

Quoted message said:

Karnov said:

Hey guys,

If you think all these mercury poisoning stories are [censored], and like a lot of
lifters you eat a lot of fish and you feel OK, take a test! I woke up quickly.
I've been having 2-4 cans of tuna a day for the last 7-8 years or so, given that
it's a nice inexpensive, easily accessible, easily edible and abundant source of
protein. Though I have no negative symptoms yet, I recently went for a test
because my wife was worried. So my blood tests show that I have 26
micrograms/liter. You're supposed to only have 5-6! And I've actually been
eating less tuna than ever now that I'm married and my wife cooks - I've 'only'
had it once a day for the last 8 months or so. Even if I totally stop now, I'm
at risk for the delayed onset of mercury poisoning (sometimes it takes years
until you develop symptoms).

What is [censored] is that there are no warnings on tuna cans saying not to eat a
whole can more than once a week, when there are plenty of warnings on say
bottles of aspirin for something as obscure as reye's syndrome in kids under 18
who take aspirin.

I guess I'm going to have be less lazy and start cooking things. It looks like
it's egg whites or chicken breast for me from now on. I hope this reaches
someone as I would've liked to know 10 years ago!

Cov

what size cans? There are a range, and 2 of the small single serving
size isn't all that much tuna.

The 6 ounce. So anywhere from 12oz-24oz of canned tuna a day.

Cov

In article <[email hidden]>, The Queen of Cans and
Jars says...

Quoted message said:

Karnov said:

I've been having 2-4 cans of tuna a day for the last 7-8 years or so,
given that it's a nice inexpensive, easily accessible, easily edible and
abundant source of protein.

If I ate twenty-eight cans of tuna a week for eight years, I'd die of
boredom before the mercury ever got me. Sheesh.

I don't eat for fun, I eat to be healthy and grow muscle.

Cov

Karnov said:

Though I have no negative symptoms yet, I recently went for a test
because my wife was worried. So my blood tests show that I have 26
micrograms/liter. You're supposed to only have 5-6!

Quoted message said:

From reading about mercury poisoning your test results couldve been off

if you had eaten any tuna up to 30 hours prior to your test. I would
not eat it for a month and then get retested again.

Quoted message said:

Even if I totally stop now, I'm > at risk for the delayed onset of mercury
poisoning (sometimes it takes years until you develop symptoms).

And did your doctor suggest a detox plan? You might want to google
that.

Quoted message said:

What is [censored] is that there are no warnings on tuna cans saying not to eat a
whole can more than once a week

There is plenty of press about this(oh right you live in a remote
cave!) and I might add the higher concentration of mercury is in
ALBACORE tuna and not as much in the 'light flaked' or the meowy cheap
stuff. Like someone said moderation in everything, because too much of
anything will probably kill you.

joanne

In article <[email hidden]>,

Karnov said:

Hey guys,

If you think all these mercury poisoning stories are [censored], and like a lot
of
lifters you eat a lot of fish and you feel OK, take a test! I woke up
quickly.
I've been having 2-4 cans of tuna a day for the last 7-8 years or so, given
that
it's a nice inexpensive, easily accessible, easily edible and abundant source
of
protein. Though I have no negative symptoms yet, I recently went for a test
because my wife was worried. So my blood tests show that I have 26
micrograms/liter. You're supposed to only have 5-6! And I've actually been
eating less tuna than ever now that I'm married and my wife cooks - I've
'only'
had it once a day for the last 8 months or so. Even if I totally stop now,
I'm
at risk for the delayed onset of mercury poisoning (sometimes it takes years
until you develop symptoms).

What is [censored] is that there are no warnings on tuna cans saying not to eat
a
whole can more than once a week, when there are plenty of warnings on say
bottles of aspirin for something as obscure as reye's syndrome in kids under
18
who take aspirin.

I guess I'm going to have be less lazy and start cooking things. It looks
like
it's egg whites or chicken breast for me from now on. I hope this reaches
someone as I would've liked to know 10 years ago!

Cov

Google for chelation therapy.

There are ways to get it out of your system faster.
--
Peace, Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

Karnov said:

In article <[email hidden]>, Fish! - THE
Aristocrat. says...

Quoted message said:

So you acknowledge these 'stories' we've all heard, and yet wanted

I never acknowledged the stories, I thought they were [censored] since I ate so
much tuna and I felt fine. People should learn from my mistake.

Your mistake was in disregarding a commonsense warning that fish that
feed high on the food chain might have a mercury content. I have no
idea why you thought that might be [censored] or why you figured it didn't
mean YOU or YOUR tuna, but everyone else knows this and weighs it
appropriately.

Quoted message said:

After eating 2 cans/day for 7-8 years, the blood test was 26 ug/L. How is that
vague?

Do you see any distinction between eating tuna once or twice a week and
eating 14 cans a week?

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

So what you really want is for cans to say, "IF YOU EAT 14 CANS A WEEK,
FOREVER AND CLAIM TO HAVE NO EXPOSURE TO ANY OTHER FORMS OF MERCURY
INCLUDING ANY FORMS OF FISH, YOU MAY DEVELOP SYMPTOMS OF MERCURY
POISONING, MAYBE, BECAUSE SOMEONE ON A NEWSGROUP SAYS SO"

Ever heard of grassroots? You'll probably find other examples out there besides
myself, though the tuna industry obviously lobbies not to let the cat out of the
bag.

The tuna industry isn't stronger than the health information industry.
I've known that excess amounts of tuna could be harmful for my entire
adult life. There is no cabal plotting to raise your mercury levels.

BTW, are idiocy and paranoia symptoms of mercury poisoning?

Dally

OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Karnov said:

Hey guys,

If you think all these mercury poisoning stories are [censored], and like a lot
of
lifters you eat a lot of fish and you feel OK, take a test! I woke up
quickly.
I've been having 2-4 cans of tuna a day for the last 7-8 years or so, given
that
it's a nice inexpensive, easily accessible, easily edible and abundant source
of
protein. Though I have no negative symptoms yet, I recently went for a test
because my wife was worried. So my blood tests show that I have 26
micrograms/liter. You're supposed to only have 5-6! And I've actually been
eating less tuna than ever now that I'm married and my wife cooks - I've
'only'
had it once a day for the last 8 months or so. Even if I totally stop now,
I'm
at risk for the delayed onset of mercury poisoning (sometimes it takes years
until you develop symptoms).

Quoted message said:

Google for chelation therapy.

He'll probably think you're bullshitting him and ignore it until he
discovers it on his own.

Dally

Karnov said:

Hey guys,

If you think all these mercury poisoning stories are [censored], and like a lot of
lifters you eat a lot of fish and you feel OK, take a test! I woke up quickly.
I've been having 2-4 cans of tuna a day for the last 7-8 years or so, given that
it's a nice inexpensive, easily accessible, easily edible and abundant source of
protein. Though I have no negative symptoms yet, I recently went for a test
because my wife was worried. So my blood tests show that I have 26
micrograms/liter. You're supposed to only have 5-6! And I've actually been
eating less tuna than ever now that I'm married and my wife cooks - I've 'only'
had it once a day for the last 8 months or so. Even if I totally stop now, I'm
at risk for the delayed onset of mercury poisoning (sometimes it takes years
until you develop symptoms).

What is [censored] is that there are no warnings on tuna cans saying not to eat a
whole can more than once a week, when there are plenty of warnings on say
bottles of aspirin for something as obscure as reye's syndrome in kids under 18
who take aspirin.

I guess I'm going to have be less lazy and start cooking things. It looks like
it's egg whites or chicken breast for me from now on. I hope this reaches
someone as I would've liked to know 10 years ago!

Cov

Well, I think some dentists STILL use amalgam to fill cavities so you
expect a warning on tuna?

--
Is this thing on?

In article <[email hidden]>, Dally says...

Quoted message said:

Your mistake was in disregarding a commonsense warning that fish that
feed high on the food chain might have a mercury content. I have no
idea why you thought that might be [censored] or why you figured it didn't
mean YOU or YOUR tuna, but everyone else knows this and weighs it
appropriately.

You speak for everyone? wow! Knowing everything, couldn't it be possible that
people might be skeptical about mercury warnings? Couldn't it be possible to
learn from someone else's mistake? Couldn't it also be possible that what you
believe is common sense is actually not that common?

Quoted message said:

Do you see any distinction between eating tuna once or twice a week and
eating 14 cans a week?

The former I recommend, the latter I don't. Isn't that self-evident? Or even
'common sense' after reading my first post?

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Ever heard of grassroots? You'll probably find other examples out there besides
myself, though the tuna industry obviously lobbies not to let the cat out of the
bag.

The tuna industry isn't stronger than the health information industry.
I've known that excess amounts of tuna could be harmful for my entire
adult life. There is no cabal plotting to raise your mercury levels.

You're exaggerating my statement. I'm simply suggesting that it may or may not
be in a tuna company's best interests to publish what to you are "common sense"
warnings on their products. Such warnings may or may not lead to reduced sales.

Cov

In article <[email hidden]>, Fish! - THE
Aristocrat. says...

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I never acknowledged the stories, I thought they were [censored] since I ate so
much tuna and I felt fine. People should learn from my mistake.

No you should learn from your mistake. You're just a voice on the
internet to us. At some point you acknowleged that it may be a problem,
otherwise you'd not have made this post.

So basically you seem to be making 2 points: The first is that any post on the
Internet is dubious. This puts your own posts, your own "voice" in jeopardy,
and basically accomplishes nothing for the purposes of discussion in this
thread.

Your second point to me is the more interesting, workable one:

Quoted message said:

What's vague is your assumption that the 2 are linked. For all I know
you enjoy chewing thermometers, or had, one day many years ago dived
head first into a pool of mercury, etc etc.

This one I can clarify by saying that I do not have, to the best of my
knowledge, any other exposure to mercury. I don't even eat other seafood except
for canned tuna, I've never handled a thermometer, lived near a power plant,
etc, etc. And I will follow up with a post of my mercury levels after the
cessation of tuna consumption in a couple months, to help clarify.

To me this second point of yours suggests you too are in denial as I was. If
you eat a lot of fish, perhaps even some lets say of the canned tuna variety
(which given your handle you might), you might be also surprised at your mercury
results. Or your symptoms down the road.

Cov

In article <[email hidden]>, joanne
says...

Quoted message said:

Karnov said:

Though I have no negative symptoms yet, I recently went for a test
because my wife was worried. So my blood tests show that I have 26
micrograms/liter. You're supposed to only have 5-6!

Quoted message said:

From reading about mercury poisoning your test results couldve been off

if you had eaten any tuna up to 30 hours prior to your test. I would
not eat it for a month and then get retested again.

Interesting, but I actually hadn't had it since 2 or 3 days before the test.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Even if I totally stop now, I'm > at risk for the delayed onset of mercury
poisoning (sometimes it takes years until you develop symptoms).

And did your doctor suggest a detox plan? You might want to google
that.

No, since I have no symptoms he just suggested I lay off for awhile, which I
will do.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

What is [censored] is that there are no warnings on tuna cans saying not to eat a
whole can more than once a week

There is plenty of press about this(oh right you live in a remote
cave!) and I might add the higher concentration of mercury is in
ALBACORE tuna and not as much in the 'light flaked' or the meowy cheap
stuff. Like someone said moderation in everything, because too much of
anything will probably kill you.

Amen...

Cov

Karnov said:

The former I recommend, the latter I don't.

But then, you're an idiot.

Karnov said:

I don't eat for fun, I eat to be healthy and grow muscle.

Cov

And how's that working out for you?

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Curt
http://curtjames.com/