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Tuesday's risk factor - being British

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  1. "Britons are more likely to die from heart disease than
    people living in almost every other western European or
    major industrialised country." See
    news.bbc.co.uk2133674.stm Americans,
    don't feel too smug. According to Harvard's Dr. Willette,
    70% of American heart disease is due to poor diet and
    sedentary lifestyle.

  2. Quoted message said:

    "Britons are more likely to die from heart disease than
    people living in almost every other western European or
    major industrialised country."

    Can you say "Socialized Medicine?" Months and years in line
    to get operations of even the simplest kind.

  3. In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    "Britons are more likely to die from heart disease than
    people living in almost every other western European or
    major industrialised country."

    Can you say "Socialized Medicine?" Months and years in
    line to get operations of even the simplest kind.

    news.bbc.co.uk1989439.stm

  4. Good point. "A study by researchers in Switzerland also
    shows that many of these countries have done a much better
    job at reducing deaths from the disease since the 1960s
    compared to Britain. "

    [email hidden] (TopCounsel) wrote in message news:<20040525113947.09674.00002029@mb-
    m02.aol.com>...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    "Britons are more likely to die from heart disease than
    people living in almost every other western European or
    major industrialised country."

    Can you say "Socialized Medicine?" Months and years in
    line to get operations of even the simplest kind.

  5. Fox said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    "Britons are more likely to die from heart disease than
    people living in almost every other western European or
    major industrialised country."

    Can you say "Socialized Medicine?" Months and years in
    line to get operations of even the simplest kind.

    Quoted message said:

    news.bbc.co.uk1989439.stm

    As it happens being Scottish is even worse than being
    British. Scots have the highest heart disease death rate in
    Britain. It also happens that for a variety of reasons the
    National Health Service operates with less waiting times in
    Scotland. The problem isn't socialised medicine. It's diet.
    The Scots eat a lot more fried food with chips, etc., than
    the English.

    How quickly you can get an operation to bypass your fat-
    clogged arteries isn't the real problem. Our grandfathers
    had much less problems from heart disease, and also poorer
    medical care. The real problem is how you got your arteries
    clogged up in the first place. To return to politics, it is
    becoming apparent just how much of a contributor to the bad-for-
    heart diet is placing sugared pop and candy dispensers in
    schools, one of the triumphs of the free market.
    --
    Chris Malcolm [email hidden] +44 (0)131 651 3445 DoD #205
    IPAB, Informatics, JCMB, King's Buildings, Edinburgh, EH9 3JZ, UK
    ["]http://www.dai.ed.ac.uk/homes/cam/]

  6. "Chris Malcolm" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Fox said:

    In article <20040525113947.09674.00002029@mb-
    m02.aol.com>, [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    >"Britons are more likely to die from heart disease
    >than people living in almost every other western
    >European or major industrialised country."

    Can you say "Socialized Medicine?" Months and years in
    line to get


    operations

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    of even the simplest kind.

    Quoted message said:

    news.bbc.co.uk1989439.stm

    As it happens being Scottish is even worse than being
    British. Scots have the highest heart disease death rate
    in Britain. It also happens that for a variety of reasons
    the National Health Service operates with less waiting
    times in Scotland. The problem isn't socialised medicine.
    It's diet. The Scots eat a lot more fried food with chips,
    etc., than the English.

    How quickly you can get an operation to bypass your fat-
    clogged arteries isn't the real problem. Our grandfathers
    had much less problems from heart disease, and also poorer
    medical care. The real problem is how you got your
    arteries clogged up in the first place. To return to
    politics, it is becoming apparent just how much of a
    contributor to the bad-for-heart diet is placing sugared
    pop and candy dispensers in schools, one of the triumphs
    of the free market.
    --
    Chris Malcolm [email hidden] +44 (0)131 651 3445
    DoD #205 IPAB, Informatics, JCMB, King's Buildings,
    Edinburgh, EH9 3JZ, UK
    ["]http://www.dai.ed.ac.uk/homes/cam/]

    I think it is a mix. It is hard to argue that either waiting
    a long time for a needed angiogram or eating bad foods does
    not have a negative impact on heart deaths. Another factor
    that could come into play are the protocols for medications.

    Bill

  7. Chris Malcolm said:
    Fox said:

    In article <20040525113947.09674.00002029@mb-
    m02.aol.com>, [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    >"Britons are more likely to die from heart disease
    >than people living in almost every other western
    >European or major industrialised country."

    Can you say "Socialized Medicine?" Months and years in
    line to get operations of even the simplest kind.

    Quoted message said:

    news.bbc.co.uk1989439.stm

    As it happens being Scottish is even worse than being
    British. Scots have the highest heart disease death rate
    in Britain. It also happens that for a variety of reasons
    the National Health Service operates with less waiting
    times in Scotland. The problem isn't socialised medicine.
    It's diet. The Scots eat a lot more fried food with chips,
    etc., than the English.

    How quickly you can get an operation to bypass your fat-
    clogged arteries isn't the real problem. Our grandfathers
    had much less problems from heart disease, and also poorer
    medical care. The real problem is how you got your
    arteries clogged up in the first place. To return to
    politics, it is becoming apparent just how much of a
    contributor to the bad-for-heart diet is placing sugared
    pop and candy dispensers in schools, one of the triumphs
    of the free market.

    Hardly a triumph, Chris (I know you were just being
    sarcastic ;-)

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