tubeless ready

highcadence said:

I've a question, whats the deference between a "tubeless" and a "tubeless ready" mtb tire?

A tubleless wheel requires a tubeless-capable rim, tire bead sealant, a tubeless valve stem, and a tubeless-ready tire. So there really is no such thing as a tubeless tire unless you want to get into semantics. They must mean "tubless-ready."

I think they are referring to the rim. I think it means "tubeless ready rim or wheelset". Just a guess.

oldbobcat said:

A tubleless wheel requires a tubeless-capable rim, tire bead sealant, a tubeless valve stem, and a tubeless-ready tire. So there really is no such thing as a tubeless tire unless you want to get into semantics. They must mean "tubless-ready."

NOT a tubeless expert by any means but does a true tubeless rim and tire need sealant? Say a mavic tubelss MTB rim/tubeless tire or Fulcrum tubeless wheel and Hutcheson tubeless?

Peter@vecchios said:

NOT a tubeless expert by any means but does a true tubeless rim and tire need sealant?

Yes. I'm not, either, but the guys I know that are use a procedure that looks like this: http://www.bike-manual.com/brands/bontrager/om/BT/tr_system.htm

They tell me this is the wave of the future for all bikes. And hydraulic disc brakes, too.

oldbobcat said:

They tell me this is the wave of the future for all bikes. And hydraulic disc brakes, too.

Well, I like hydraulic disc brakes....

oldbobcat said:

Yes. I'm not, either, but the guys I know that are use a procedure that looks like this: http://www.bike-manual.com/brands/bontrager/om/BT/tr_system.htm

They tell me this is the wave of the future for all bikes. And hydraulic disc brakes, too.

'All' bikes, hope not. Real advantages, tubeless and hydraulic discs, in terms of low air pressure, less snake bites whule in the baby heads, brake modulation on long, rough downhills, wacking a rim and still having brakes, mud, water, type stuff great for MTB riding but little(none) of that really applies to a road, on the pavement, road bike, IMHO.

Peter@vecchios said:

'All' bikes, hope not.

I'm in agreement with that. I thought I could go for tubeless with the right price and rims, but the loss of that margin of puncture resistance changes my mind. My tires have lots of holes caused by stuff that never made it into the tube.

Guys thanks for the relpys.
I went to the bontrager website and their they explain the diference between the two. Tubeless ready tires need either a bead or sealant to be sealed, the bead for a non ust rim, or sealant for a ust rim. A ust tire (real tubeless or universal standard for tubeless) doesn't need neither of this to be sealed on a ust rim.
The tubeless ready tires are allmost always lighter then ust tires, but can be punctured easier.

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