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On 5-Jul-2005, smacked up and reeling, "trg"
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Looked loke a mechanical failure- Chain or freewheel. That's bad luck.
But how would that take him down?
It looked to me like the classic touch of his front wheel to the next mans rear wheel.
He didn't appear to be near the guy in front of him. Also, when you touch a wheel, your body moves forward, which didn't seem the case. It looks like just before he went down he was pedalling "dans le vide" as explained Bernard Thevenet who was doing the commentaire for France Television. So maybe his chain came off, or his casette broke.
"steve" <[email hidden]> a écrit dans le message de news:[email hidden]...
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On 5-Jul-2005, smacked up and reeling, "trg"
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Looked loke a mechanical failure- Chain or freewheel. That's bad luck.
But how would that take him down?
It looked to me like the classic touch of his front wheel to the next mans rear wheel.
steve -- "Local firemen improvised." Benny Hill
"The actual caused of his crash wasn't certain. The roads were dry and it appears Zabriskie didn't puncture, and Roberts said Zabriskie didn't clip a wheel. "I'm not sure what happened, whether his chain jumped or his foot slipped. We were accelerating after coming through the corner and maybe it threw him off-balance," Roberts said. "It's just bad luck for Dave. It's an awful situation for him."
| In the overall GC picture the event really doesn't make much | difference for Basso, unless Zabriskie is unable to continue. Of | course, psychologically it will have an effect but it's Riis' job to | take care of that.
On the bright side, Riis won't have to decide whether to spend energy defending the jersey. The team can devote itself to protecting Basso.
If you have to put a positive spin on it that's the way to do it. Strange, but the crash just might have helped Basso's chances. Some people might disagree, but a team with a singular purpose is more effective than one with a couple of things on its mind.
With Basso being a good climber and only 1'26" back you just never know. They will work hard to protect him and keep him within striking distance in case Armstrong has trouble.
There's still a 55K ITT to go and Basso surely willl lose a couple of minutes on that day. So he's going to have to pick up over 3 minutes to have a chance.
However, as Paul mentioned, Lady Luck can also defeat Lance. When you really think about it, Lance has raced over 12 thousand miles in the TdF without a serious accident. I'd say Lady Luck has been more than generous.
On Tue, 05 Jul 2005 21:08:19 -0400, Jack Hollis <[email hidden]>
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With Basso being a good climber and only 1'26" back you just never know. They will work hard to protect him and keep him within striking distance in case Armstrong has trouble.
There's still a 55K ITT to go and Basso surely willl lose a couple of minutes on that day. So he's going to have to pick up over 3 minutes to have a chance.
However, as Paul mentioned, Lady Luck can also defeat Lance. When you really think about it, Lance has raced over 12 thousand miles in the TdF without a serious accident. I'd say Lady Luck has been more than generous.
Well, someone is going to be second, and I recon Basso wants it to be him if Armstrong is going to win. If Armstrong gets taken out somehow that makes the #2 guy the #1 guy. Being in that position is surely what CSC is prepared to try and do with Ivan.
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However, as Paul mentioned, Lady Luck can also defeat Lance. When you really think about it, Lance has raced over 12 thousand miles in the TdF without a serious accident. I'd say Lady Luck has been more than generous.
However, as Paul mentioned, Lady Luck can also defeat Lance. When you really think about it, Lance has raced over 12 thousand miles in the TdF without a serious accident. I'd say Lady Luck has been more than generous.
Dear Dumbass,
Did you know that Lance had cancer?
And he had the good luck to survive. And it's unlikely that he would have won even one TdF if he didn't have cancer.
So looking back, his cancer was just the beginning of his lucky streak.
However, as Paul mentioned, Lady Luck can also defeat Lance. When you really think about it, Lance has raced over 12 thousand miles in the TdF without a serious accident. I'd say Lady Luck has been more than generous.
Dear Dumbass,
Did you know that Lance had cancer?
And he had the good luck to survive. And it's unlikely that he would have won even one TdF if he didn't have cancer.
So looking back, his cancer was just the beginning of his lucky streak.
Dumbass -
That is some half-assed thought.
Using that brand of logic, the day he first rode a bike was the beginning of his lucky streak. Or the day he was born. Or the moment he was conceived.
On Wed, 06 Jul 2005 16:24:06 -0000, Bob Schwartz <[email hidden]>
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Using that brand of logic, the day he first rode a bike was the beginning of his lucky streak. Or the day he was born. Or the moment he was conceived.
The moment he was conceived represented a lucky streak for his dad.
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And if Armstrong's grandfather hadn't been an alcoholic his mother wouldn't have been seeking male attention at such an early age and gotten pregnant as a teenager.
So Lance is lucky that Paul Mooneyham was an alcoholic.
And he had the good luck to survive. And it's unlikely that he would have won even one TdF if he didn't have cancer.
So looking back, his cancer was just the beginning of his lucky streak.
Dumbass -
That is some half-assed thought.
Using that brand of logic, the day he first rode a bike was the beginning of his lucky streak. Or the day he was born. Or the moment he was conceived.
Or whatever.
No, getting cancer was the defining moment in his life that changed everything for him both physically and psychologically. Ultimately, Lance's identity is just as much about being a cancer survivor as being a bike racer.
Coming through what he did has made him much stronger both in terms of his motivation to win and his ability to endure the pain that a bike racer has to endure. Once you've gone through a few series of chemo and literally faced death, the big mountain don't seem so bad. And having to carry 6 less kilos up the hills didn't hurt.
No, getting cancer was the defining moment in his life that changed everything for him both physically and psychologically. Ultimately, Lance's identity is just as much about being a cancer survivor as being a bike racer.
Jesus. You've got your head up your ass.
No one disagrees with that. The claim you made that's absurd is that getting cancer is lucky.
Health is more important than wealth, fame, achievement, all that.
No, getting cancer was the defining moment in his life that changed everything for him both physically and psychologically. Ultimately, Lance's identity is just as much about being a cancer survivor as being a bike racer.
Jesus. You've got your head up your ass.
No one disagrees with that. The claim you made that's absurd is that getting cancer is lucky.
Health is more important than wealth, fame, achievement, all that.
There's no need to be rude.
And perhaps looking back on it, Lance might think that geting cancer was a positive thing in his life. Plus, Lance is healthy.
On Wed, 06 Jul 2005 20:07:53 -0400, Jack Hollis <[email hidden]>
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No, getting cancer was the defining moment in his life that changed everything for him both physically and psychologically. Ultimately, Lance's identity is just as much about being a cancer survivor as being a bike racer.
Jesus. You've got your head up your ass.
No one disagrees with that. The claim you made that's absurd is that getting cancer is lucky.
Health is more important than wealth, fame, achievement, all that.
There's no need to be rude.
And perhaps looking back on it, Lance might think that geting cancer was a positive thing in his life. Plus, Lance is healthy.
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No, getting cancer was the defining moment in his life that changed everything for him both physically and psychologically. Ultimately, Lance's identity is just as much about being a cancer survivor as being a bike racer.
Jesus. You've got your head up your ass.
No one disagrees with that. The claim you made that's absurd is that getting cancer is lucky.
Health is more important than wealth, fame, achievement, all that.
There's no need to be rude.
There are 3 reasons to be rude
1. this is rbr 2. idiotic and inane posts always go up in July 3. you're a dumbass