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  1. "steve" <[email hidden]> a écrit dans le message de
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On 5-Jul-2005, smacked up and reeling, "trg"


    <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    blindly formulated
    the following incoherence:

    Quoted message said:

    Looked loke a mechanical failure- Chain or freewheel. That's bad luck.

    But how would that take him down?

    It looked to me like the classic touch of his front wheel to the next mans
    rear wheel.

    He didn't appear to be near the guy in front of him. Also, when you touch a
    wheel, your body moves forward, which didn't seem the case. It looks like
    just before he went down he was pedalling "dans le vide" as explained
    Bernard Thevenet who was doing the commentaire for France Television. So
    maybe his chain came off, or his casette broke.

  2. "steve" <[email hidden]> a écrit dans le message de
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On 5-Jul-2005, smacked up and reeling, "trg"


    <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    blindly formulated
    the following incoherence:

    Quoted message said:

    Looked loke a mechanical failure- Chain or freewheel. That's bad luck.

    But how would that take him down?

    It looked to me like the classic touch of his front wheel to the next mans
    rear wheel.

    steve
    --
    "Local firemen improvised."
    Benny Hill

    "The actual caused of his crash wasn't certain. The roads were dry and it
    appears Zabriskie didn't puncture, and Roberts said Zabriskie didn't clip a
    wheel. "I'm not sure what happened, whether his chain jumped or his foot
    slipped. We were accelerating after coming through the corner and maybe it
    threw him off-balance," Roberts said. "It's just bad luck for Dave. It's an
    awful situation for him."

  3. trg said:

    | In the overall GC picture the event really doesn't make much
    | difference for Basso, unless Zabriskie is unable to continue. Of
    | course, psychologically it will have an effect but it's Riis' job to
    | take care of that.

    On the bright side, Riis won't have to decide whether to spend energy
    defending the jersey. The team can devote itself to protecting Basso.

    If you have to put a positive spin on it that's the way to do it.
    Strange, but the crash just might have helped Basso's chances. Some
    people might disagree, but a team with a singular purpose is more
    effective than one with a couple of things on its mind.

  4. David Ferguson said:

    With Basso being a good climber and only 1'26" back you just never
    know.
    They will work hard to protect him and keep him within striking
    distance in case Armstrong has trouble.

    There's still a 55K ITT to go and Basso surely willl lose a couple of
    minutes on that day. So he's going to have to pick up over 3 minutes
    to have a chance.

    However, as Paul mentioned, Lady Luck can also defeat Lance. When you
    really think about it, Lance has raced over 12 thousand miles in the
    TdF without a serious accident. I'd say Lady Luck has been more than
    generous.

  5. On Tue, 05 Jul 2005 21:08:19 -0400, Jack Hollis <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    David Ferguson said:

    With Basso being a good climber and only 1'26" back you just never
    know.
    They will work hard to protect him and keep him within striking
    distance in case Armstrong has trouble.

    There's still a 55K ITT to go and Basso surely willl lose a couple of
    minutes on that day. So he's going to have to pick up over 3 minutes
    to have a chance.

    However, as Paul mentioned, Lady Luck can also defeat Lance. When you
    really think about it, Lance has raced over 12 thousand miles in the
    TdF without a serious accident. I'd say Lady Luck has been more than
    generous.

    Well, someone is going to be second, and I recon Basso wants it to be
    him if Armstrong is going to win. If Armstrong gets taken out somehow
    that makes the #2 guy the #1 guy. Being in that position is surely
    what CSC is prepared to try and do with Ivan.

    D

  6. Jack Hollis <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    However, as Paul mentioned, Lady Luck can also defeat Lance. When you
    really think about it, Lance has raced over 12 thousand miles in the
    TdF without a serious accident. I'd say Lady Luck has been more than
    generous.

    Dear Dumbass,

    Did you know that Lance had cancer?

    NS

  7. Maybe Eddie Merckx's kidney puncher will strike again...

  8. Bob Schwartz said:

    The spirit of Tyler lives on in the Tour.

    Surely you mean Tugboat.

  9. On Wed, 06 Jul 2005 02:07:21 GMT, Nev Shea <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    However, as Paul mentioned, Lady Luck can also defeat Lance. When you
    really think about it, Lance has raced over 12 thousand miles in the
    TdF without a serious accident. I'd say Lady Luck has been more than
    generous.

    Dear Dumbass,

    Did you know that Lance had cancer?

    And he had the good luck to survive. And it's unlikely that he would
    have won even one TdF if he didn't have cancer.

    So looking back, his cancer was just the beginning of his lucky
    streak.

  10. Jack Hollis said:

    On Wed, 06 Jul 2005 02:07:21 GMT, Nev Shea <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    However, as Paul mentioned, Lady Luck can also defeat Lance. When you
    really think about it, Lance has raced over 12 thousand miles in the
    TdF without a serious accident. I'd say Lady Luck has been more than
    generous.

    Dear Dumbass,

    Did you know that Lance had cancer?

    And he had the good luck to survive. And it's unlikely that he would
    have won even one TdF if he didn't have cancer.

    So looking back, his cancer was just the beginning of his lucky
    streak.

    Dumbass -

    That is some half-assed thought.

    Using that brand of logic, the day he first rode a bike was the
    beginning of his lucky streak. Or the day he was born. Or the moment he
    was conceived.

    Or whatever.

    thanks,

    K. Gringioni.

  11. Kurgan Gringioni said:

    Using that brand of logic, the day he first rode a bike was the
    beginning of his lucky streak. Or the day he was born. Or the moment he
    was conceived.

    The moment he was conceived represented a lucky streak for
    his dad.

    Bob Schwartz
    [email hidden]

  12. On Wed, 06 Jul 2005 16:24:06 -0000, Bob Schwartz <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Kurgan Gringioni said:

    Using that brand of logic, the day he first rode a bike was the
    beginning of his lucky streak. Or the day he was born. Or the moment he
    was conceived.

    The moment he was conceived represented a lucky streak for
    his dad.

    Bob Schwartz
    [email hidden]

    And if Armstrong's grandfather hadn't been an alcoholic his mother
    wouldn't have been seeking male attention at such an early age and
    gotten pregnant as a teenager.

    So Lance is lucky that Paul Mooneyham was an alcoholic.

    D

  13. Kurgan Gringioni said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Dear Dumbass,

    Did you know that Lance had cancer?

    And he had the good luck to survive. And it's unlikely that he would
    have won even one TdF if he didn't have cancer.

    So looking back, his cancer was just the beginning of his lucky
    streak.

    Dumbass -

    That is some half-assed thought.

    Using that brand of logic, the day he first rode a bike was the
    beginning of his lucky streak. Or the day he was born. Or the moment he
    was conceived.

    Or whatever.

    No, getting cancer was the defining moment in his life that changed
    everything for him both physically and psychologically. Ultimately,
    Lance's identity is just as much about being a cancer survivor as
    being a bike racer.

    Coming through what he did has made him much stronger both in terms of
    his motivation to win and his ability to endure the pain that a bike
    racer has to endure. Once you've gone through a few series of chemo
    and literally faced death, the big mountain don't seem so bad. And
    having to carry 6 less kilos up the hills didn't hurt.

  14. Jack Hollis said:


    No, getting cancer was the defining moment in his life that changed
    everything for him both physically and psychologically. Ultimately,
    Lance's identity is just as much about being a cancer survivor as
    being a bike racer.

    Jesus. You've got your head up your ass.

    No one disagrees with that. The claim you made that's absurd is that
    getting cancer is lucky.

    Health is more important than wealth, fame, achievement, all that.

    thanks,

    K. Gringioni.

  15. Kurgan Gringioni said:
    Jack Hollis said:


    No, getting cancer was the defining moment in his life that changed
    everything for him both physically and psychologically. Ultimately,
    Lance's identity is just as much about being a cancer survivor as
    being a bike racer.

    Jesus. You've got your head up your ass.

    No one disagrees with that. The claim you made that's absurd is that
    getting cancer is lucky.

    Health is more important than wealth, fame, achievement, all that.

    There's no need to be rude.

    And perhaps looking back on it, Lance might think that geting cancer
    was a positive thing in his life. Plus, Lance is healthy.

  16. On Wed, 06 Jul 2005 20:07:53 -0400, Jack Hollis <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Kurgan Gringioni said:
    Jack Hollis said:


    No, getting cancer was the defining moment in his life that changed
    everything for him both physically and psychologically. Ultimately,
    Lance's identity is just as much about being a cancer survivor as
    being a bike racer.

    Jesus. You've got your head up your ass.

    No one disagrees with that. The claim you made that's absurd is that
    getting cancer is lucky.

    Health is more important than wealth, fame, achievement, all that.

    There's no need to be rude.

    And perhaps looking back on it, Lance might think that geting cancer
    was a positive thing in his life. Plus, Lance is healthy.

    For Henry, that's not rude.

  17. Jack Hollis <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:
    Kurgan Gringioni said:
    Jack Hollis said:


    No, getting cancer was the defining moment in his life that changed
    everything for him both physically and psychologically. Ultimately,
    Lance's identity is just as much about being a cancer survivor as
    being a bike racer.

    Jesus. You've got your head up your ass.

    No one disagrees with that. The claim you made that's absurd is that
    getting cancer is lucky.

    Health is more important than wealth, fame, achievement, all that.

    There's no need to be rude.

    There are 3 reasons to be rude

    1. this is rbr
    2. idiotic and inane posts always go up in July
    3. you're a dumbass

    You're welcome! 😉

    NS

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