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  1. Here's something to divert you guys away from the endless doping
    scandals. I need a little advice about time trial start technique -
    specifically balancing the bike while clipped in with both feet and
    being held. More often than not, I wobble, clip out my left
    (nondominant) foot, and then skulk off with an embarrassing start and
    ten seconds (and ten places) down the tubes. I've never had
    particularly good balance. Are there any tricks ? From what I've
    ascertained with the help of my wife patiently helping me, I do better
    with the back brake applied, looking ahead and not at my feet, and
    standing slightly. Am I on the right track and are there any other
    tricks ?
    Thanks in advance for your replies.........

    Not a dumbass but definitely a klutz................Lou D'Amelio

  2. "Lou D'Amelio" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Here's something to divert you guys away from the endless doping
    scandals. I need a little advice about time trial start technique -
    specifically balancing the bike while clipped in with both feet and
    being held. More often than not, I wobble, clip out my left
    (nondominant) foot, and then skulk off with an embarrassing start and
    ten seconds (and ten places) down the tubes. I've never had
    particularly good balance. Are there any tricks ? From what I've
    ascertained with the help of my wife patiently helping me, I do better
    with the back brake applied, looking ahead and not at my feet, and
    standing slightly. Am I on the right track and are there any other
    tricks ?

    Not a trick - you're being held upright. Don't fight the guy. Spin the
    pedals around so that your starting position is with your power leg forward
    and slightly up. As the count down guy says, "ONE" stand up on your power
    pedal and release the brakes.

  3. In article
    <[email hidden]>
    ,

    Lou D'Amelio said:

    Here's something to divert you guys away from the endless doping
    scandals. I need a little advice about time trial start technique -
    specifically balancing the bike while clipped in with both feet and
    being held. More often than not, I wobble, clip out my left
    (nondominant) foot, and then skulk off with an embarrassing start and
    ten seconds (and ten places) down the tubes. I've never had
    particularly good balance. Are there any tricks ? From what I've
    ascertained with the help of my wife patiently helping me, I do better
    with the back brake applied, looking ahead and not at my feet, and
    standing slightly. Am I on the right track and are there any other
    tricks ?
    Thanks in advance for your replies.........

    Not a dumbass but definitely a klutz

    Practice riding at low speed while still riding a
    straight line. Try to get your straigh line riding
    under 5 km/hr. Also when riding normally see how
    straight a line you can draw. You will be surprised at
    how soon you improve your balance.

    Somebody around here is a physician; you?
    Talk to an eyeearnosethroatguy.

    --
    Michael Press

  4. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Tom Kunich' cyclintom@yahoo. com said:

    "Lou D'Amelio" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Here's something to divert you guys away from the endless doping
    scandals. I need a little advice about time trial start technique -
    specifically balancing the bike while clipped in with both feet and
    being held. More often than not, I wobble, clip out my left
    (nondominant) foot, and then skulk off with an embarrassing start and
    ten seconds (and ten places) down the tubes. I've never had
    particularly good balance. Are there any tricks ? From what I've
    ascertained with the help of my wife patiently helping me, I do better
    with the back brake applied, looking ahead and not at my feet, and
    standing slightly. Am I on the right track and are there any other
    tricks ?

    Not a trick - you're being held upright. Don't fight the guy. Spin the
    pedals around so that your starting position is with your power leg forward
    and slightly up. As the count down guy says, "ONE" stand up on your power
    pedal and release the brakes.

    Also, if this happens consistently, choose a lower gear so you get a
    smoother start.

    --
    Ryan Cousineau [email hidden] http://www.wiredcola.com/
    "I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
    to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos

  5. Lou D'Amelio said:

    Here's something to divert you guys away from the endless doping
    scandals. I need a little advice about time trial start technique -
    specifically balancing the bike while clipped in with both feet and
    being held. More often than not, I wobble, clip out my left
    (nondominant) foot, and then skulk off with an embarrassing start and
    ten seconds (and ten places) down the tubes. I've never had
    particularly good balance. Are there any tricks ? From what I've
    ascertained with the help of my wife patiently helping me, I do better
    with the back brake applied, looking ahead and not at my feet, and
    standing slightly. Am I on the right track and are there any other
    tricks ?
    Thanks in advance for your replies.........

    Not a dumbass but definitely a klutz................Lou D'Amelio

    I think the holder needs to hold you more firmly.
    I also think it will be harder for the holder
    if you stand slightly, because the seatpost
    will wobble around independent of your butt.

    This is a little different than trackstanding
    because you don't want to keep moving and
    rocking the bike. Try practicing while riding,
    as you come to a stop, go slower and slower
    until you're balancing the bike while hardly
    moving at all. Don't clip out too early.
    If you can't resist the impulse to clip out
    early, practice on a bike with flat pedals,
    where you don't have to put a foot down until
    you're actually tipping over. For ex, flat
    pedals are how I finally learned to do the
    step-through on a cyclocross dismount.

    Ben

  6. in message <[email hidden]>, Lou

    D'Amelio (') said:

    Here's something to divert you guys away from the endless doping
    scandals. I need a little advice about time trial start technique -
    specifically balancing the bike while clipped in with both feet and
    being held. More often than not, I wobble, clip out my left
    (nondominant) foot, and then skulk off with an embarrassing start and
    ten seconds (and ten places) down the tubes. I've never had
    particularly good balance.

    I used to have good balance but that's years ago. I recently discovered to
    my extreme embarrassment that I can no longer trackstand at all - not even
    for a second. As a young man I used routinely to track stand at traffic
    lights, because it saved the hassle of releasing the strap, and tightening
    it again afterwards...

    Quoted message said:

    Are there any tricks ?

    Firstly, if you really can't do it, you may start faster if you keep one
    foot on the ground until the starter says 'go'. It's better to be prepared
    than to wobble off, as you say. Secondly, if your club has a regular
    holder - my club has a man who was a very strong cyclist but has arthritis
    in his knees, so now regularly does the holds - practice with him.
    Holder-uppers who give you a little push - intending to help you - can
    actually cause worse wobbles. Ask them not to (but quietly, because they
    shouldn't anyway and may be offended at the suggestion).

    It's quite important to know and trust the holder-upper - the fear that
    makes you wobble is the fear that he won't be able to hold you up, and
    that you'll fall. But also, you need to know how very little strength it
    actually takes to hold someone up, so perhaps you should volunteer for
    holder-up duty at a time trial. It really isn't nearly as hard as you'd
    think.

    Finally, don't place yourself too close to the curb for your start. If
    you're not perfectly upright when the starter says go, you will need to
    steer a bit immediately to correct this, and you need some room to steer
    into.

    Quoted message said:

    From what I've
    ascertained with the help of my wife patiently helping me, I do better
    with the back brake applied, looking ahead and not at my feet, and
    standing slightly. Am I on the right track and are there any other
    tricks ?

    I use the front brake, holding it on quite firmly until the starter says
    go. I already have quite a lot of weight on the lead pedal, but I stay in
    the saddle until after 'go'. Mind you, I am not at all fast - this week
    all the under-fifteen year olds in the club did 30s and I did a 36.

    --
    [email hidden] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/

    ;; Good grief, I can remember when England won the Ashes.

  7. Thanks for the tips. Vis a vis the slow riding, clipping out at the
    last moment, etc., I'm OK with anything in motion. I have a problem
    with static (still) balance as opposed to dynamic. I'm actually a
    decent bike handler (once in motion) and 'crosser. Just need a quick
    clarification on Tom K's reply - when being held for the ten seconds
    or so, do you spin the pedals around and bring them into starting
    position at 2-3 seconds or do you just hold them with dominant foot
    forward/up the whole time ?

    Thanks to all.

  8. Quoted message said:

    I think the holder needs to hold you more firmly.

    Obviously. And relax.

    --
    E. Dronkert

  9. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Lou D'Amelio said:

    Thanks for the tips. Vis a vis the slow riding, clipping out at the
    last moment, etc., I'm OK with anything in motion. I have a problem
    with static (still) balance as opposed to dynamic. I'm actually a
    decent bike handler (once in motion) and 'crosser. Just need a quick
    clarification on Tom K's reply - when being held for the ten seconds
    or so, do you spin the pedals around and bring them into starting
    position at 2-3 seconds or do you just hold them with dominant foot
    forward/up the whole time ?

    Hm. With a decent holder, it just shouldn't matter: you relax and let
    him do the balancing.

    --
    Ryan Cousineau [email hidden] http://www.wiredcola.com/
    "I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
    to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos

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