Trying to start again

welcome to one of the best places on the net. Now here is someinspiration
for you, a whole lot of my tom issues have gotten better since losing
weight, 88.5 pounds, and I am 44 so I relate completely, again welcome and
best of luck, Lee
Libby <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Hi everyone,

I am now officially delurking as I just need your help and
advice too much to not talk anymore LOL ........ I used to
post regularly here a few years ago when I lost nearly 60+
lbs - and guess what - it all came back + more.

I just cant stay on plan. I now am so big at 220lbs ish
that I dont have

the

Quoted message said:

energy to start again and exercise. I am also struggling
with horrendous

TOM

Quoted message said:

problems with varying perimenopause symptoms, depression
and stress !!! Recently had a death in the family and
other family problems - all I did

was

Quoted message said:

eat more. Nothing made me lose weight.

This group was a terrific support to me years ago and I
hope that you can

do

Quoted message said:

the same for me now. I have been reading for months on and
off and think

you

Quoted message said:

are all so friendly and supportive to each other.

There are no clubs I can get to now. I did go to one when
I lost the

weight

Quoted message said:

but am not able to get to any close by any more so if I am
to do this I

have

Quoted message said:

to do it by myself. This is what I am finding impossible.
I cant keep

enough

Quoted message said:

enthusiasm for one day - let alone a week, a month,
a year !!

So - that is a brief introduction to me - my name is Libby
and I come from the UK.

Can I join your group ??

Hi Libby! Of course you can join our group - the more the merrier. This is
my third (and last) time on WW. The first time I got to within 3kg of goal.
The second I lost only 2kg. This time I've lost just over 20kg, and have
kept it off for almost 6 months. I think the secret was the support of this
group amongst other things. Anyway, here's the welcome notice. I', sure
you've seen at least some of it before, but this time it's all for you 🙂

Welcome to this great newsgroup where you'll receive lots of
support, advice, and encouragement. Once a week on Sundays,
I post a list of links that newcomers to asdww might find
useful. You may want to look for that later in the week, or
do a backwards search for last Sunday's post.

In the meantime, here's our FAQ:
didian.comasdwwOpen ↗ our welcome notice:
geocities.comindex.htmlOpen ↗

Frequently seen acronyms on this NG: NSV = Non-Scale Victory
WOE = Way of Eating WOL = Way of Life (Living) OP = on
Points or On Program DH = Dear or Darling Husband
DS/DD/DGD/etc = Dear or Darling Son, Daughter,
Granddaughter, etc WI = Weigh-in

Amberle3's Challenges:

SIA - Spring Into Action Exercise Challenge:
angelfire.comsia.htmOpen ↗

WNM - Weight No More Weight Loss Challenge:
angelfire.comwnm.htmOpen ↗

Other acronyms:
wwlissa.com100+acronyms.htmOpen ↗

Here's a short synopsis of the USA program by Joyce -

How many points you can eat is only based on your current
weight, as you lose weight those points allowed will
decrease (logic is that your body will need less to
operate). At 183 pounds and based on the new US flexpoints
system, you will have a set point target of 24. In addition
to this you are allowed 35 flexpoints to be used throughout
the week ... as well as any activity points you earn on a
particular day. When your weight drops to 175, your target
drops to 22 points ... weight reaches 150, target once
again drop to 20 points. 3 servings of dairy of recommended
per day, 5 servings of fruit and veggies, minimum of 6
glasses of water.

To calculate food and activity points, I love this computer
desktop calculator ...
zythra.compoints.exeOpen ↗

The basic plan is easy. Eat at least your minimum daily
number of points. Points do not carry over from day to day.
You are allotted 35 weekly flexpoints to be used at your
discretion ... can divide them up and use daily (would be an
additional 5 points per day) or save them and use them for a
special occassion during the week. Activity points are
earned based when exercising, but can ONLY be used on the
day they are earned.

If you can afford $15/month, the online ww program might be
a great thing for you to look into. There is lots of
information available, as well as the food point database
and journaling system.

Joyce WW starting weight: 228.8 - 2/5/02 current weight:
133.3 Lifetime: 4/4/03

Please note that if you live in onther countries (UK,
Australia, NZ, Europe), the Points plans are different. The
UK and Australia/NZ calculate points based on saturated fat
and total kilojoules. Most of Europe calculates based on
total fat and total kilojoules. The desktop calculator above
can handle all of these programs.

Disclaimer: As an unmoderated Usenet newsgroup, asdww is
unusual in that most of the people who participate are
respectful, considerate folks who freely share their
experience with and knowledge of WW, weight loss, and
maintenance. Yet occasionally, spammers, trolls, and flamers
show up to post advertising, false information, insults, and
the like. Nearly all of the time, people like this are just
trying to yank someone's chain. Most of the regulars on this
newsgroup offer their experience as a suggestion to try if
you're stuck, but are quick to advise that each person has
to find what works for him/herself. If someone posts
something that doesn't sound right to you, ask the
newsgroup, ask your WW leader, or ask your health
professional.

Much success on your weight loss journey! WW works!

--
Julie.
93.5/72.3/74 (WW)/72 (Personal) kg
93.5/73./162.8 (WW)/158 (Personal) lb

Here's our FAQ: didian.comasdwwOpen ↗ and welcome
notice: geocities.comindex.htmlOpen ↗

"Libby" <[email hidden]> wrote in message -"]news:[email hidden]-
berlin.de...

Quoted message said:

Hi everyone,

I am now officially delurking as I just need your help and
advice too much to not talk anymore LOL ........ I used to
post regularly here a few years ago when I lost nearly 60+
lbs - and guess what - it all came back + more.

I just cant stay on plan. I now am so big at 220lbs ish
that I dont have

the

Quoted message said:

energy to start again and exercise. I am also struggling
with horrendous

TOM

Quoted message said:

problems with varying perimenopause symptoms, depression
and stress !!! Recently had a death in the family and
other family problems - all I did

was

Quoted message said:

eat more. Nothing made me lose weight.

This group was a terrific support to me years ago and I
hope that you can

do

Quoted message said:

the same for me now. I have been reading for months on and
off and think

you

Quoted message said:

are all so friendly and supportive to each other.

There are no clubs I can get to now. I did go to one when
I lost the

weight

Quoted message said:

but am not able to get to any close by any more so if I am
to do this I

have

Quoted message said:

to do it by myself. This is what I am finding impossible.
I cant keep

enough

Quoted message said:

enthusiasm for one day - let alone a week, a month,
a year !!

So - that is a brief introduction to me - my name is Libby
and I come from the UK.

Can I join your group ??

Libby said:

Hi everyone,

I am now officially delurking as I just need your help and
advice too much to not talk anymore LOL ........ I used to
post regularly here a few years ago when I lost nearly 60+
lbs - and guess what - it all came back + more.

I just cant stay on plan. I now am so big at 220lbs ish
that I dont have the energy to start again and
exercise. I am also struggling with horrendous TOM
problems with varying perimenopause symptoms,
depression and stress !!! Recently had a death in the
family and other family problems - all I did was eat
more. Nothing made me lose weight.

This group was a terrific support to me years ago and I
hope that you can do the same for me now. I have been
reading for months on and off and think you are all so
friendly and supportive to each other.

There are no clubs I can get to now. I did go to one
when I lost the weight but am not able to get to any
close by any more so if I am to do this I have to do it
by myself. This is what I am finding impossible. I cant
keep enough enthusiasm for one day - let alone a week, a
month, a year !!

So - that is a brief introduction to me - my name is Libby
and I come from the UK.

Can I join your group ??

You already did! 🙂 Be very welcome.

If you can't get to a meeting, think about the WW At home
plan or the on Line version. Those who have done it say it's
very good. We here can supply the meeting side of things...
And you get a daily fix rather than just once a week!

Were you on Pure Points when you did WW last time, or a
previous version? Lots of people are saying that the Pure
Points/Time to Eat program is easier to follow than
anything that went before (there are quite a few returnees
in my meeting).

You have made those first and most difficult steps -
recognized the problem and asked for help. We'll give all
the help we can.

I had 5 stone/70 lbs to lose when I started, and I'm over
half way there. I started with no faith and no motivation.
If I can do it, so can you!

BTW, where in the UK are you? I'm falling off the bottom of
England, here in Kent!
--

Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons
diceyhome.free-online.co.ukdiceyhome.free-online.co.ukOpen ↗ Click on Kate's Pages
and explore!

Are we a top or bottom reply group ??? See I already call
myself part of this group LOL .....

Hi Kate - I've enjoyed reading your posts in the past -
pleased to meet you.

Quoted message said:

If you can't get to a meeting, think about the WW At
home plan or the on Line version. Those who have done it
say it's very good. We here can supply the meeting side
of things... And you get a daily fix rather than just
once a week! >

Yes but there is still the financial side as well ..... dont
have a lot of spare cash and I KNOW what to do - I just have
to get going with it. I also have so many different books
and sets of books from my constant attempts at rejoining
over the years.

Quoted message said:

Were you on Pure Points when you did WW last time, or a
previous version? Lots of people are saying that the Pure
Points/Time to Eat program is easier to follow than
anything that went before (there are quite a few returnees
in my meeting). >

My favourite was actually the one that I had when I joined
which was 123 Success 2000. The new Time to Eat is virtually
identical to that but the books you got with the ones when I
first did it were the best. I have about 4 sets of Pure
Points which I never liked. I always have used my original
book until I got a copy of the new Time to Eat.

Quoted message said:

You have made those first and most difficult steps -
recognized the problem and asked for help. We'll give all
the help we can. >

Not doing well today so far. I am useless.

Quoted message said:

I had 5 stone/70 lbs to lose when I started, and I'm over
half way there. I started with no faith and no motivation.
If I can do it, so can you! >

Well I have nearly 100 lbs to lose. I think this is half the
problem. So much to lose and I know about trying to break it
down into smaller goals which I do try and do but it doesnt
really help my mindset.

Quoted message said:

BTW, where in the UK are you? I'm falling off the bottom
of England, here in Kent!>

Well I'm not that far then. Over here on the other side -
South West - near Cornwall 🙂

Quoted message said:

welcome to one of the best places on the net. Now here is
someinspiration for you, a whole lot of my tom issues
have gotten better since losing weight, 88.5 pounds, and
I am 44 so I relate completely, again welcome and best of
luck, Lee>

Really ?? Thanks for that Lee - I have been very inspired by
your loss. I am
42. How did you lose all that ?? Do you go to a club ?

Quoted message said:

Libby <[email hidden]> wrote in message -"]news:[email hidden]-
berlin.de...

Quoted message said:

Hi everyone,

I am now officially delurking as I just need your help
and advice too

much

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

to not talk anymore LOL ........ I used to post
regularly here a few

years

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

ago when I lost nearly 60+ lbs - and guess what - it all
came back +

more.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I just cant stay on plan. I now am so big at 220lbs ish
that I dont have

the

Quoted message said:

energy to start again and exercise. I am also struggling
with horrendous

TOM

Quoted message said:

problems with varying perimenopause symptoms, depression
and stress !!! Recently had a death in the family and
other family problems - all I did

was

Quoted message said:

eat more. Nothing made me lose weight.

This group was a terrific support to me years ago and I
hope that you

can

Quoted message said:

do

Quoted message said:

the same for me now. I have been reading for months on
and off and think

you

Quoted message said:

are all so friendly and supportive to each other.

There are no clubs I can get to now. I did go to one
when I lost the

weight

Quoted message said:

but am not able to get to any close by any more so if I
am to do this I

have

Quoted message said:

to do it by myself. This is what I am finding
impossible. I cant keep

enough

Quoted message said:

enthusiasm for one day - let alone a week, a month, a
year !!

So - that is a brief introduction to me - my name is
Libby and I come

from

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

the UK.

Can I join your group ??

Hi Julie I remember thinking when I joined for the 3rd time
that that would be my final time too LOL .... you are much
more positive than I was tho and are doing great. Well done.

Thanks for posting the welcomes - I have looked through them
before in my lurking days. I actually remember Diane who
wrote the original one.

"JulieB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Hi Libby! Of course you can join our group - the more the
merrier. This

is

Quoted message said:

my third (and last) time on WW. The first time I got to
within 3kg of

goal.

Quoted message said:

The second I lost only 2kg. This time I've lost just over
20kg, and have kept it off for almost 6 months. I think
the secret was the support of

this

Quoted message said:

group amongst other things. Anyway, here's the welcome
notice. I', sure you've seen at least some of it before,
but this time it's all for you 🙂

Welcome to this great newsgroup where you'll receive lots
of support, advice, and encouragement. Once a week on
Sundays, I post a list of links that newcomers to asdww
might find useful. You may want to look for that later in
the week, or do a backwards search for last Sunday's post.

In the meantime, here's our FAQ:
didian.comasdwwOpen ↗ our welcome notice:
geocities.comindex.htmlOpen ↗

Frequently seen acronyms on this NG: NSV = Non-Scale
Victory WOE = Way of Eating WOL = Way of Life (Living) OP
= on Points or On Program DH = Dear or Darling Husband
DS/DD/DGD/etc = Dear or Darling Son, Daughter,
Granddaughter, etc WI = Weigh-in

Amberle3's Challenges:

SIA - Spring Into Action Exercise Challenge:
angelfire.comsia.htmOpen ↗

WNM - Weight No More Weight Loss Challenge:
angelfire.comwnm.htmOpen ↗

Other acronyms:
wwlissa.com100+acronyms.htmOpen ↗

Here's a short synopsis of the USA program by Joyce -

How many points you can eat is only based on your current
weight, as you lose weight those points allowed will
decrease (logic is that your body will

need

Quoted message said:

less to operate). At 183 pounds and based on the new US
flexpoints system,

you

Quoted message said:

will have a set point target of 24. In addition to this
you are allowed 35 flexpoints to be used throughout the
week ... as well as any activity points you earn on a
particular day. When your weight drops to 175, your target
drops to 22 points ... weight reaches 150, target once
again drop to 20 points. 3 servings of dairy of
recommended per day, 5 servings of fruit and veggies,
minimum of 6 glasses of water.

To calculate food and activity points, I love this
computer desktop calculator ...
zythra.compoints.exeOpen ↗

The basic plan is easy. Eat at least your minimum daily
number of points. Points do not carry over from day to
day. You are allotted 35 weekly flexpoints

to

Quoted message said:

be used at your discretion ... can divide them up and use
daily (would be an additional 5 points per day) or save
them and use them for a special occassion during the week.
Activity points are earned based when exercising, but

can

Quoted message said:

ONLY be used on the day they are earned.

If you can afford $15/month, the online ww program might
be a great thing for you to look into. There is lots of
information available, as well as the food point database
and journaling system.

Joyce WW starting weight: 228.8 - 2/5/02 current weight:
133.3 Lifetime: 4/4/03

Please note that if you live in onther countries (UK,
Australia, NZ, Europe), the Points plans are different.
The UK and Australia/NZ

calculate

Quoted message said:

points based on saturated fat and total kilojoules. Most
of Europe calculates based on total fat and total
kilojoules. The desktop

calculator

Quoted message said:

above can handle all of these programs.

Disclaimer: As an unmoderated Usenet newsgroup, asdww is
unusual in that most of the people who participate are
respectful, considerate folks who freely share their
experience with and knowledge of WW, weight loss, and
maintenance. Yet occasionally, spammers, trolls, and
flamers show up to

post

Quoted message said:

advertising, false information, insults, and the like.
Nearly all of the time, people like this are just trying
to yank someone's chain. Most of

the

Quoted message said:

regulars on this newsgroup offer their experience as a
suggestion to try

if

Quoted message said:

you're stuck, but are quick to advise that each person has
to find what works for him/herself. If someone posts
something that doesn't sound right to you, ask the
newsgroup, ask your WW leader, or ask your health
professional.

Much success on your weight loss journey! WW works!

--
Julie.
93.5/72.3/74 (WW)/72 (Personal) kg
205.7/159./162.8 (WW)/158 (Personal) lb

Here's our FAQ: didian.comasdwwOpen ↗ and welcome
notice: geocities.comindex.htmlOpen ↗

"Libby" <[email hidden]> wrote in message -"]news:[email hidden]-
berlin.de...

Quoted message said:

Hi everyone,

I am now officially delurking as I just need your help
and advice too

much

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

to not talk anymore LOL ........ I used to post
regularly here a few

years

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

ago when I lost nearly 60+ lbs - and guess what - it all
came back +

more.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I just cant stay on plan. I now am so big at 220lbs ish
that I dont have

the

Quoted message said:

energy to start again and exercise. I am also struggling
with horrendous

TOM

Quoted message said:

problems with varying perimenopause symptoms, depression
and stress !!! Recently had a death in the family and
other family problems - all I did

was

Quoted message said:

eat more. Nothing made me lose weight.

This group was a terrific support to me years ago and I
hope that you

can

Quoted message said:

do

Quoted message said:

the same for me now. I have been reading for months on
and off and think

you

Quoted message said:

are all so friendly and supportive to each other.

There are no clubs I can get to now. I did go to one
when I lost the

weight

Quoted message said:

but am not able to get to any close by any more so if I
am to do this I

have

Quoted message said:

to do it by myself. This is what I am finding
impossible. I cant keep

enough

Quoted message said:

enthusiasm for one day - let alone a week, a month, a
year !!

So - that is a brief introduction to me - my name is
Libby and I come

from

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

the UK.

Can I join your group ??

Welcome Libby to our little corner of Usenet. If you've been
lurking for any length of time, you already know what a
wonderfully supportive group this is. Our collective sense
of humor is just a bonus!

Getting the mind and heart and body ready and willing to
cooperate with a weight loss program is tough business.
Especially when you've lost before, having to do it again
can feel like such an uphill battle. I think it took me two
full years from the time when I first got the notion that I
had to do something about my weight once and for all to
finally being able to commit to and stick with this new way
of eating. That came after menopause and depression and
stress. I can't imagine taking on weight loss in addition to
those major hormonal changes. Brava to you for even
considering it. Please don't be so tough on yourself if
getting started is hard. You've got a virtual tsunami going
on in your body with all the age-related changes occurring.
Do what you can as you're able and love yourself for making
that much effort.

I don't go to storefront meetings. WW Online and this
newsgroup are my tools for support and accountability. So
far, I've been at this for 14 months, and now have somewhere
between 2 and 23 lbs to go. Early on, I discovered the value
of mini-goals because looking ahead to the total amount I
needed to lose was too intimidating and overwhelming. I'm
not one who could climb Mt. Everest by looking at the top of
the mountain. Nope, I need to concentrate on getting from
one base camp to the next. And not in any specified time
frame, either. I set mini-goals in 2-3 lb increments, which
were usually attainable in 2-5 weeks. If I ever thought
about quitting, I'd give myself permission to do so when I
reached my next mini-goal. Since they were never far off,
I've always been able to convince myself to stick with it
that long. And then by the time I've reached that mini-goal,
I'm so pleased with myself that it overpowers the internal
voices of discouragement.

You might start by doing just one thing. Maybe make it your
goal to drink 8, 8-oz glasses of water every day. Make that
into a habit and declare a non-scale victory (NSV). Take
your measurements, record them someplace for easy reference
later, and declare an NSV for facing the hard facts. Change
your breakfast only, or your lunch, or another easy meal in
the day. Think about your real motivation for wanting to
lose weight and what might be getting in your way. For me,
I've known that

body. No matter that I wanted to be slim. Being able to hide
behind my girth was the more powerful motivator.

Keep reading and posting, asking for and offering support.
One of these days, all the stars will be in alignment for
you, and you'll be ready. Welcome aboard.
--
Linda P
232/147/WW goal 145/personal goal 126?
joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003

Libby said:

Hi everyone,

I am now officially delurking as I just need your help and advice too much
to not talk anymore LOL ........ I used to post regularly here a few years
ago when I lost nearly 60+ lbs - and guess what - it all came back + more.

I just cant stay on plan. I now am so big at 220lbs ish that I dont have the
energy to start again and exercise. I am also struggling with horrendous TOM
problems with varying perimenopause symptoms, depression and stress !!!
Recently had a death in the family and other family problems - all I did was
eat more. Nothing made me lose weight.

This group was a terrific support to me years ago and I hope that you can do
the same for me now. I have been reading for months on and off and think you
are all so friendly and supportive to each other.

There are no clubs I can get to now. I did go to one when I lost the weight
but am not able to get to any close by any more so if I am to do this I have
to do it by myself. This is what I am finding impossible. I cant keep enough
enthusiasm for one day - let alone a week, a month, a year !!

So - that is a brief introduction to me - my name is Libby and I come from
the UK.

Can I join your group ??

Hi, Libby, You made a great start by posting. You lost the weight before,
you can lost it again.
Take Care
Catherine
"Libby" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Hi everyone,

I am now officially delurking as I just need your help and
advice too much to not talk anymore LOL ........ I used to
post regularly here a few years ago when I lost nearly 60+
lbs - and guess what - it all came back + more.

I just cant stay on plan. I now am so big at 220lbs ish
that I dont have

the

Quoted message said:

energy to start again and exercise. I am also struggling
with horrendous

TOM

Quoted message said:

problems with varying perimenopause symptoms, depression
and stress !!! Recently had a death in the family and
other family problems - all I did

was

Quoted message said:

eat more. Nothing made me lose weight.

This group was a terrific support to me years ago and I
hope that you can

do

Quoted message said:

the same for me now. I have been reading for months on and
off and think

you

Quoted message said:

are all so friendly and supportive to each other.

There are no clubs I can get to now. I did go to one when
I lost the

weight

Quoted message said:

but am not able to get to any close by any more so if I am
to do this I

have

Quoted message said:

to do it by myself. This is what I am finding impossible.
I cant keep

enough

Quoted message said:

enthusiasm for one day - let alone a week, a month,
a year !!

So - that is a brief introduction to me - my name is Libby
and I come from the UK.

Can I join your group ??

whatever suits you, Lee
Libby <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Are we a top or bottom reply group ??? See I already call
myself part of this group LOL .....

Hi Kate - I've enjoyed reading your posts in the past -
pleased to meet

you.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

If you can't get to a meeting, think about the WW At
home plan or the on Line version. Those who have done it
say it's very good. We here can supply the meeting side
of things... And you get a daily fix rather than just
once a week! >

Yes but there is still the financial side as well .....
dont have a lot of spare cash and I KNOW what to do - I
just have to get going with it. I

also

Quoted message said:

have so many different books and sets of books from my
constant attempts

at

Quoted message said:

rejoining over the years.

Quoted message said:

Were you on Pure Points when you did WW last time, or a
previous version? Lots of people are saying that the
Pure Points/Time to Eat program is easier to follow than
anything that went before (there are quite a few
returnees in my meeting). >

My favourite was actually the one that I had when I joined
which was 123 Success 2000. The new Time to Eat is
virtually identical to that but the books you got with the
ones when I first did it were the best. I have

about

Quoted message said:

4 sets of Pure Points which I never liked. I always
have used my original book until I got a copy of the
new Time to Eat.

Quoted message said:

You have made those first and most difficult steps -
recognized the problem and asked for help. We'll give
all the help we can. >

Not doing well today so far. I am useless.

Quoted message said:

I had 5 stone/70 lbs to lose when I started, and I'm
over half way there. I started with no faith and no
motivation. If I can do it, so can you! >

Well I have nearly 100 lbs to lose. I think this is half
the problem. So much to lose and I know about trying to
break it down into smaller goals which I do try and do but
it doesnt really help my mindset.

Quoted message said:

BTW, where in the UK are you? I'm falling off the bottom
of England, here in Kent!>

Well I'm not that far then. Over here on the other side -
South West -

near

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Cornwall 🙂

I MUST have the meetings, I am not sure why because I am not generally a
"joiner" type person. Besides the meetings, and this group I think there
are a couple of things that have really helped me. I never do anything I am
not ready to commit to for life, for example exercise, I am sure I would
already be at goal if I had been exercising. I couldn't get motivated until
recently so I didn't even pretend to do it. Now I have found something that
while I do not like it, I will be able to live with it. Food is the same
way, I love grilled cheese, I have tried every way to eat one while staying
on program that anyone has ever suggested... I have been able to switch to
lower point bread, lower point cheese, leer point miracle whip, but no
matter what I tried it needs real butter, rather than giving them up, which
ain't gonna happen for life I accepted that I must budget for them and do
without other things that day, and bear in mind this had taken me a long
time to get where I am. the first month I counted calories and lost 14.5
then as you see from my WI post this has just been the WI for week 80. and
as to the girl issues... I have actually had a few more toms than had been
habitual and the stuff that goes with tom are less, particularly in the area
of water retention and headaches. Best of luck, Lee
Libby <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

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welcome to one of the best places on the net. Now
here is

someinspiration

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for you, a whole lot of my tom issues have gotten better
since losing weight, 88.5 pounds, and I am 44 so I
relate completely, again welcome

and

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best of luck, Lee>

Really ?? Thanks for that Lee - I have been very inspired
by your loss. I

am

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42. How did you lose all that ?? Do you go to a club ?

Quoted message said:

Libby <[email hidden]> wrote in message -"]news:[email hidden]-
berlin.de...

Quoted message said:

Hi everyone,

I am now officially delurking as I just need your help
and advice too

much

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

to not talk anymore LOL ........ I used to post
regularly here a few

years

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

ago when I lost nearly 60+ lbs - and guess what - it
all came back +

more.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I just cant stay on plan. I now am so big at 220lbs
ish that I dont

have

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

the

Quoted message said:

energy to start again and exercise. I am also
struggling with

horrendous

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

TOM

Quoted message said:

problems with varying perimenopause symptoms,
depression and stress

!!!

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Recently had a death in the family and other family
problems - all I

did

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

was

Quoted message said:

eat more. Nothing made me lose weight.

This group was a terrific support to me years ago and
I hope that you

can

Quoted message said:

do

Quoted message said:

the same for me now. I have been reading for months on
and off and

think

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

you

Quoted message said:

are all so friendly and supportive to each other.

There are no clubs I can get to now. I did go to one
when I lost the

weight

Quoted message said:

but am not able to get to any close by any more so if
I am to do this

I

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

have

Quoted message said:

to do it by myself. This is what I am finding
impossible. I cant keep

enough

Quoted message said:

enthusiasm for one day - let alone a week, a month, a
year !!

So - that is a brief introduction to me - my name is
Libby and I come

from

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

the UK.

Can I join your group ??

oh Thank you and hugs for such a wonderful welcome Linda.
You have been another huge inspiration to me and looking at
your stats and mine - I am coming from where you were and
aiming to get to where you are now plus more.

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Getting the mind and heart and body ready and willing to
cooperate with a weight loss program is tough business.
Especially when you've lost before, having to do it again
can feel like such an uphill battle. I think it took me
two full years from the time when I first got the notion
that I had to do something about my weight once and for
all to finally being able to commit to and stick with this
new way of eating.>

well I have been trying for that as well - it is just that
I cant keep getting bigger and bigger.

Early on, I

Quoted message said:

discovered the value of mini-goals because looking ahead
to the total amount I needed to lose was too intimidating
and overwhelming. I'm not one who could climb Mt. Everest
by looking at the top of the mountain. Nope, I need to
concentrate on getting from one base camp to the next. >

Great advice - and I know this is the right way to be. I
have often said I take the scenic route up or is it down the
mountain. Stop to admire the view on the way.

I set mini-goals in 2-3

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lb increments, which were usually attainable in 2-5 weeks.
If I ever thought about quitting, I'd give myself
permission to do so when I reached my next mini-goal.
Since they were never far off, I've always been able to
convince myself to stick with it that long. And then by
the time I've reached that mini-goal, I'm so pleased with
myself that it overpowers the internal voices of
discouragement. >

I've never thought of doing such small goals. Coming from
the UK I always go in half stone chunks but when I slow up
which is what happens with my screwed up metabolism from
30 years of yoyo dieting - I lose so slowly as well. This
is another thing that has stopped me being successful. So
many times I start and lose half a pound a week and then
give up. Having 2 lbs goals and achieving that is a great
way of thinking.

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You might start by doing just one thing. Maybe make it
your goal to drink 8, 8-oz glasses of water every day.>

Always struggle with the water. I can usually get in
about 4 or 5.

Change your breakfast only, or your lunch, or another easy

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meal in the day. Think about your real motivation for
wanting to lose weight and what might be getting in
your way.>

Another great piece of advice. I have tried to cut down on
things but as soon as I get hungry I just give in. I cannot
do it right now. This is why I wanted to unlurk and open up
and hope that by talking to someone I might find the
enthusiasm to get going.

For me, I've known that

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body. No matter that I wanted to be slim. Being able to
hide behind my girth was the more powerful motivator. >

I am so sorry to hear about that. I am proud of you that you
have managed to overcome that and finally be successful.

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Keep reading and posting, asking for and offering support.
One of these days, all the stars will be in alignment for
you, and you'll be ready. >

I hope so.

Welcome aboard. >

Thankyou.

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--
Linda P
232/147/WW goal 145/personal goal 126? joined WW Online
22-Feb-2003

Libby said:

Hi everyone,

I am now officially delurking as I just need your help
and advice too

much

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

to not talk anymore LOL ........ I used to post regularly
here a few

years

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

ago when I lost nearly 60+ lbs - and guess what - it all
came back +

more.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I just cant stay on plan. I now am so big at 220lbs ish
that I dont have

the

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

energy to start again and exercise. I am also struggling
with horrendous

TOM

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

problems with varying perimenopause symptoms, depression
and stress !!! Recently had a death in the family and
other family problems - all I did

was

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

eat more. Nothing made me lose weight.

This group was a terrific support to me years ago and I
hope that you can

do

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

the same for me now. I have been reading for months on
and off and think

you

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

are all so friendly and supportive to each other.

There are no clubs I can get to now. I did go to one when
I lost the

weight

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

but am not able to get to any close by any more so if I
am to do this I

have

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

to do it by myself. This is what I am finding impossible.
I cant keep

enough

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

enthusiasm for one day - let alone a week, a month, a
year !!

So - that is a brief introduction to me - my name is
Libby and I come

from

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

the UK.

Can I join your group ??

That's one of the reasons why I love weight watchers over
calories or anything like atkins. I could never ever do
atkins because I love bread and potatoes too much. WW means
I can still have many things I like just lower fat versions
and count the points. I too (when I am on plan) still have
what would be considered naughty foods but count them in -
that way I can stick to it.

Now that sounds like I am doing it but I am not. I was so
determined to try today but once again another day has
passed and here I am still not counting.

"Miss Violette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

I MUST have the meetings, I am not sure why because I am
not generally a "joiner" type person. Besides the
meetings, and this group I think there are a couple of
things that have really helped me. I never do anything I

am

Quoted message said:

not ready to commit to for life, for example exercise, I
am sure I would already be at goal if I had been
exercising. I couldn't get motivated

until

Quoted message said:

recently so I didn't even pretend to do it. Now I have
found something

that

Quoted message said:

while I do not like it, I will be able to live with it.
Food is the same way, I love grilled cheese, I have tried
every way to eat one while

staying

Quoted message said:

on program that anyone has ever suggested... I have been
able to switch to lower point bread, lower point cheese,
leer point miracle whip, but no matter what I tried it
needs real butter, rather than giving them up,

which

Quoted message said:

ain't gonna happen for life I accepted that I must budget
for them and do without other things that day, and bear in
mind this had taken me a long time to get where I am. the
first month I counted calories and lost 14.5 then as you
see from my WI post this has just been the WI for week 80.

and

Quoted message said:

as to the girl issues... I have actually had a few more
toms than had been habitual and the stuff that goes with
tom are less, particularly in the

area

Quoted message said:

of water retention and headaches. Best of luck, Lee Libby
<[email hidden]> wrote in message -"]news:[email hidden]-
berlin.de...

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

welcome to one of the best places on the net. Now
here is

someinspiration

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

for you, a whole lot of my tom issues have gotten
better since losing weight, 88.5 pounds, and I am 44
so I relate completely, again welcome

and

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

best of luck, Lee>

Really ?? Thanks for that Lee - I have been very
inspired by your loss.

I

Quoted message said:

am

Quoted message said:

42. How did you lose all that ?? Do you go to a club ?

Quoted message said:

Libby <[email hidden]> wrote in message -"]news:[email hidden]-
berlin.de...
> Hi everyone,
>
> I am now officially delurking as I just need your
> help and advice

too

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Quoted message said:

much

Quoted message said:

> to not talk anymore LOL ........ I used to post
> regularly here a few

years

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> ago when I lost nearly 60+ lbs - and guess what - it
> all came back +

more.

Quoted message said:

>
> I just cant stay on plan. I now am so big at 220lbs
> ish that I dont

have

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

the
> energy to start again and exercise. I am also
> struggling with

horrendous

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

TOM
> problems with varying perimenopause symptoms,
> depression and stress

!!!

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> Recently had a death in the family and other family
> problems - all I

did

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

was
> eat more. Nothing made me lose weight.
>
> This group was a terrific support to me years ago
> and I hope that

you

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Quoted message said:

can

Quoted message said:

do
> the same for me now. I have been reading for months
> on and off and

think

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

you
> are all so friendly and supportive to each other.
>
> There are no clubs I can get to now. I did go to one
> when I lost the
weight
> but am not able to get to any close by any more so
> if I am to do

this

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I

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

have
> to do it by myself. This is what I am finding
> impossible. I cant

keep

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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

enough
> enthusiasm for one day - let alone a week, a month,
> a year !!
>
> So - that is a brief introduction to me - my name is
> Libby and I

come

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Quoted message said:

from

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> the UK.
>
> Can I join your group ??
>
>

Welcome, of course you can join in, the more the merrier! How about
starting to document what you eat, then making little changes here and
there, cut out one biscuit at a time (or what ever it is you decide to
set as a your change) Baby steps add up over time. Once you have a
small success it will motivate you to continue, each step adds up, and
each change to your diet and exercise will develop to a new WOL. Be
nice to yourself, getting off track and making mistakes are a part of
the learning process, but pick yourself up dust yourself off each time
you fall and continue on your journey. Looking forward to hearing how
you get on.
Michelle : Ozzie in Switzerland
69.8/59.5/61kg

Libby said:

Hi everyone,

I am now officially delurking as I just need your help and
advice too much to not talk anymore LOL ........ I used to
post regularly here a few years ago when I lost nearly 60+
lbs - and guess what - it all came back + more.

I just cant stay on plan. I now am so big at 220lbs ish
that I dont have the energy to start again and
exercise. I am also struggling with horrendous TOM
problems with varying perimenopause symptoms,
depression and stress !!! Recently had a death in the
family and other family problems - all I did was eat
more. Nothing made me lose weight.

This group was a terrific support to me years ago and I
hope that you can do the same for me now. I have been
reading for months on and off and think you are all so
friendly and supportive to each other.

There are no clubs I can get to now. I did go to one
when I lost the weight but am not able to get to any
close by any more so if I am to do this I have to do it
by myself. This is what I am finding impossible. I cant
keep enough enthusiasm for one day - let alone a week, a
month, a year !!

So - that is a brief introduction to me - my name is Libby
and I come from the UK.

Can I join your group ??

But of course you can, welcome Libby, and glad to have
you on board!
--
Nathalie from Belgium
134.1/96.2/minigoal 94.1/ Goal 68 Kg
134.1/97/minigoal 207.5/Goal 150 pounds WNM:
216.3/212/203 lbs
134.1/97.1/92 kg "Libby" <[email hidden]> wrote
in message news:c6sua9$fq17q$1@ID-
178506.news.uni-berlin.de...

Quoted message said:

Hi everyone,

I am now officially delurking as I just need your help and
advice too much to not talk anymore LOL ........ I used to
post regularly here a few years ago when I lost nearly 60+
lbs - and guess what - it all came back + more.

I just cant stay on plan. I now am so big at 220lbs ish
that I dont have

the

Quoted message said:

energy to start again and exercise. I am also struggling
with horrendous

TOM

Quoted message said:

problems with varying perimenopause symptoms, depression
and stress !!! Recently had a death in the family and
other family problems - all I did

was

Quoted message said:

eat more. Nothing made me lose weight.

This group was a terrific support to me years ago and I
hope that you can

do

Quoted message said:

the same for me now. I have been reading for months on and
off and think

you

Quoted message said:

are all so friendly and supportive to each other.

There are no clubs I can get to now. I did go to one when
I lost the

weight

Quoted message said:

but am not able to get to any close by any more so if I am
to do this I

have

Quoted message said:

to do it by myself. This is what I am finding impossible.
I cant keep

enough

Quoted message said:

enthusiasm for one day - let alone a week, a month,
a year !!

So - that is a brief introduction to me - my name is Libby
and I come from the UK.

Can I join your group ??

Libby said:

Hi everyone,

I am now officially delurking as I just need your help and
advice too much to not talk anymore LOL ........ I used to
post regularly here a few years ago when I lost nearly 60+
lbs - and guess what - it all came back + more.

Welcome. You have come to the right place.

Quoted message said:

This group was a terrific support to me years ago and I
hope that you can do the same for me now. I have been
reading for months on and off and think you are all so
friendly and supportive to each other.

There are no clubs I can get to now. I did go to one
when I lost the weight but am not able to get to any
close by any more so if I am to do this I have to do it
by myself. This is what I am finding impossible. I cant
keep enough enthusiasm for one day - let alone a week, a
month, a year !!

You did it before - you can do it again.

If there are no clubs near you, there is still the "online"
and "at home" versions of WW. Or you can do it all by
yourself without paying a penny to the commercial groups.
www.fitday.com will let you record your daily food intake
and weight etc for free. You probably have all the WW
literature, so you know what sort of things to eat, or not.
For exercise you can start off by walking, and slowly aim
higher. Also you could try lifting weights (to which I'm now
addicted).

Here are a couple more sites...
exrx.netBeginning.htmlOpen ↗
stumptuous.comweights.htmlOpen ↗

Quoted message said:

So - that is a brief introduction to me - my name is Libby
and I come from the UK.

Can I join your group ?

Welcome. Keep posting and let us know how you get on.

Ray

ps. Tell us what you find most difficult. We have some great
ideas about how to get round most obstacles.

--
rmnsuk
273/197/182

"Libby" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Hi everyone,

Welcome to the group. You'll find a lot of helpful tips and
support here.

Quoted message said:

I am now officially delurking as I just need your help and
advice too much to not talk anymore LOL ........ I used to
post regularly here a few years ago when I lost nearly 60+
lbs - and guess what - it all came back + more.

I just cant stay on plan. I now am so big at 220lbs ish
that I dont have

the

Quoted message said:

energy to start again and exercise. I am also struggling
with horrendous

TOM

Quoted message said:

problems with varying perimenopause symptoms, depression
and stress !!! Recently had a death in the family and
other family problems - all I did

was

Quoted message said:

eat more. Nothing made me lose weight.

Eating for many seems to be the logical way of dealing with
stress and grief (been-there-done-that). You need to find
other ways of getting your mind off of your sorrows to help
you not eat. (easier said than done, I know). Or at least
find healthy things to eat.

If you really want to lose the weight then you will. You
need to find the right reasons in your heart to keep you
going. What were your reasons for losing the 60lbs before.
Re visit your goals to see if they still apply.

Quoted message said:

This group was a terrific support to me years ago and I
hope that you can

do

Quoted message said:

the same for me now. I have been reading for months on and
off and think

you

Quoted message said:

are all so friendly and supportive to each other.

There are no clubs I can get to now. I did go to one when
I lost the

weight

Quoted message said:

but am not able to get to any close by any more so if I am
to do this I

have

Quoted message said:

to do it by myself. This is what I am finding impossible.
I cant keep

enough

Quoted message said:

enthusiasm for one day - let alone a week, a month,
a year !!

Posting here often might help keep your enthusiam up. When
you want to eat, drink some water and post away. Busy
fingers can't eat food.

Quoted message said:

So - that is a brief introduction to me - my name is Libby
and I come from the UK.

Can I join your group ??

I think you alread did .

My problem is staying with it - I can make good starts every
morning but I just dont stick with it. Sometimes I think
well I cant want it enough but I want it more than anything.
Why do I just sabotage myself so much ?

Always tomorrow, next Monday, next week, the day after a
special event.

What am I waiting for ??

~ Libby~

"Michelle Guy" <[email hidden]> wrote in
message "]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Welcome, of course you can join in, the more the merrier!
How about starting to document what you eat, then making
little changes here and there, cut out one biscuit at a
time (or what ever it is you decide to set as a your
change) Baby steps add up over time. Once you have a small
success it will motivate you to continue, each step adds
up, and each change to your diet and exercise will develop
to a new WOL. Be nice to yourself, getting off track and
making mistakes are a part of the learning process, but
pick yourself up dust yourself off each time you fall and
continue on your journey. Looking forward to hearing how
you get on. Michelle : Ozzie in Switzerland
69.8/59.5/61kg

Libby said:

Hi everyone,

I am now officially delurking as I just need your help
and advice too

much

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

to not talk anymore LOL ........ I used to post regularly
here a few

years

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

ago when I lost nearly 60+ lbs - and guess what - it all
came back +

more.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I just cant stay on plan. I now am so big at 220lbs ish
that I dont have

the

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

energy to start again and exercise. I am also struggling
with horrendous

TOM

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

problems with varying perimenopause symptoms, depression
and stress !!! Recently had a death in the family and
other family problems - all I did

was

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

eat more. Nothing made me lose weight.

This group was a terrific support to me years ago and I
hope that you can

do

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

the same for me now. I have been reading for months on
and off and think

you

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

are all so friendly and supportive to each other.

There are no clubs I can get to now. I did go to one when
I lost the

weight

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

but am not able to get to any close by any more so if I
am to do this I

have

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

to do it by myself. This is what I am finding impossible.
I cant keep

enough

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

enthusiasm for one day - let alone a week, a month, a
year !!

So - that is a brief introduction to me - my name is
Libby and I come

from

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

the UK.

Can I join your group ??

Hi Libby:

Welcome to the group!! I hope you post lots!! This is a very
supportive group and there are lots of wonderful people
here!! You can do it. When you are feeling down and feeling
like you might cave come here with a bottle of water and
read. You'll be energized in no time!!
--

Cheers,

Connie Walsh

241.5/190/155 WNM 193.5/190/181.5 30 lbs to go 191.5/190/185

Quoted message said:

Libby said:

Hi everyone,

I am now officially delurking as I just need your help and
advice too much to not talk anymore LOL ........ I used to
post regularly here a few years ago when I lost nearly 60+
lbs - and guess what - it all came back + more.

I just cant stay on plan. I now am so big at 220lbs ish
that I dont have the energy to start again and
exercise. I am also struggling with horrendous TOM
problems with varying perimenopause symptoms,
depression and stress !!! Recently had a death in the
family and other family problems - all I did was eat
more. Nothing made me lose weight.

This group was a terrific support to me years ago and I
hope that you can do the same for me now. I have been
reading for months on and off and think you are all so
friendly and supportive to each other.

There are no clubs I can get to now. I did go to one
when I lost the weight but am not able to get to any
close by any more so if I am to do this I have to do it
by myself. This is what I am finding impossible. I cant
keep enough enthusiasm for one day - let alone a week, a
month, a year !!

So - that is a brief introduction to me - my name is Libby
and I come from the UK.

Can I join your group ??

What a good post, Linda!!

Connie

Prairie Roots said:

Welcome Libby to our little corner of Usenet. If you've
been lurking for any length of time, you already know what
a wonderfully supportive group this is. Our collective
sense of humor is just a bonus!

Getting the mind and heart and body ready and willing to
cooperate with a weight loss program is tough business.
Especially when you've lost before, having to do it again
can feel like such an uphill battle. I think it took me
two full years from the time when I first got the notion
that I had to do something about my weight once and for
all to finally being able to commit to and stick with this
new way of eating. That came after menopause and
depression and stress. I can't imagine taking on weight
loss in addition to those major hormonal changes. Brava to
you for even considering it. Please don't be so tough on
yourself if getting started is hard. You've got a virtual
tsunami going on in your body with all the age-related
changes occurring. Do what you can as you're able and love
yourself for making that much effort.

I don't go to storefront meetings. WW Online and this
newsgroup are my tools for support and accountability. So
far, I've been at this for 14 months, and now have
somewhere between 2 and 23 lbs to go. Early on, I
discovered the value of mini-goals because looking ahead
to the total amount I needed to lose was too intimidating
and overwhelming. I'm not one who could climb Mt. Everest
by looking at the top of the mountain. Nope, I need to
concentrate on getting from one base camp to the next. And
not in any specified time frame, either. I set mini-goals
in 2-3 lb increments, which were usually attainable in 2-5
weeks. If I ever thought about quitting, I'd give myself
permission to do so when I reached my next mini-goal.
Since they were never far off, I've always been able to
convince myself to stick with it that long. And then by
the time I've reached that mini-goal, I'm so pleased with
myself that it overpowers the internal voices of
discouragement.

You might start by doing just one thing. Maybe make it
your goal to drink 8, 8-oz glasses of water every day.
Make that into a habit and declare a non-scale victory
(NSV). Take your measurements, record them someplace for
easy reference later, and declare an NSV for facing the
hard facts. Change your breakfast only, or your lunch, or
another easy meal in the day. Think about your real
motivation for wanting to lose weight and what might be
getting in your way. For me, I've known that

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body. No matter that I wanted to be slim. Being able to
hide behind my girth was the more powerful motivator.

Keep reading and posting, asking for and offering support.
One of these days, all the stars will be in alignment for
you, and you'll be ready. Welcome aboard.
--
Linda P
232/147/WW goal 145/personal goal 126? joined WW Online
22-Feb-2003

Libby said:

Hi everyone,

I am now officially delurking as I just need your help and
advice too much to not talk anymore LOL ........ I used to
post regularly here a few years ago when I lost nearly 60+
lbs - and guess what - it all came back + more.

I just cant stay on plan. I now am so big at 220lbs ish
that I dont have the energy to start again and
exercise. I am also struggling with horrendous TOM
problems with varying perimenopause symptoms,
depression and stress !!! Recently had a death in the
family and other family problems - all I did was eat
more. Nothing made me lose weight.

This group was a terrific support to me years ago and I
hope that you can do the same for me now. I have been
reading for months on and off and think you are all so
friendly and supportive to each other.

There are no clubs I can get to now. I did go to one
when I lost the weight but am not able to get to any
close by any more so if I am to do this I have to do it
by myself. This is what I am finding impossible. I cant
keep enough enthusiasm for one day - let alone a week, a
month, a year !!

So - that is a brief introduction to me - my name is Libby
and I come from the UK.

Can I join your group ??

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Cheers,

Connie Walsh

241.5/190/155 WNM 193.5/190/181.5 30 lbs to go 191.5/190/185