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    marconfoot
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    hi, I'm an absolute novice at power training so bear with me. I've been trying to find a set-up which simulates brutal climbs. I've never gotten there with only one load unit on the trainer so I put an additional Minoura Mag turbo on the trainer. I can get the power curve for this unit off their website, but I have nothing on the fans. Does anyone know where I could find the power curve for wind trainer devices, specifically a Vetta with shrouded fans? I remember that one was provided on purchase but I no longer have it. I wanted to be able to estimate load that I'm experiencing. I know this is really amateur hour, but I would appreciate any info. Right now I turn something like 60 RPM at 52X13 and it's really taxing. I just like the lower RPM/high load workout rather than the really high RPM needed for the maximum loads for these trainers. Finally, am I going down the wrong road in my attempts to simulate hard climbing. This way feels alot like a 30 min squat! Thanks

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  2. Mansmind
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    this thread my be something for you to look at also

    cyclingforums.comt179253.html

    I think you'll find the resistance plenty on the Performance trainer. I can generate approximately 300 watts on the 2 setting, and it has 5.

    Hope this helps!

    John

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  3. Rollo
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    i think basically no matter what you do the only solution is simply to get out in the hills. No matter how good your trainer is you wont really be able to simulate climbing try getting out of your saddle and having the bike rock to the sides like when climbing on a trainer, you simply can't.

    Get out in the mountains, it's by far the best solution.

    Rollo

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  4. marconfoot
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    Rollo said:

    i think basically no matter what you do the only solution is simply to get out in the hills. No matter how good your trainer is you wont really be able to simulate climbing try getting out of your saddle and having the bike rock to the sides like when climbing on a trainer, you simply can't.

    Get out in the mountains, it's by far the best solution.

    Rollo


    Yea I know there is nothing like the real thing. But here in Ohio, the terrain is pretty flat. Hill repeats are ok, but the suffering is just not long enough. When I go visit my family in Italy and we go for a ride, it's murder. Unending switchbacks, steeeeeep climbs etc. I've got grandma's passing me by this point. I'm just tryng to get as close as possible to the real thing

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  5. ric_stern/RST
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    marconfoot said:

    Yea I know there is nothing like the real thing. But here in Ohio, the terrain is pretty flat. Hill repeats are ok, but the suffering is just not long enough. When I go visit my family in Italy and we go for a ride, it's murder. Unending switchbacks, steeeeeep climbs etc. I've got grandma's passing me by this point. I'm just tryng to get as close as possible to the real thing

    With most trainers it's unlikely that you can generate the resistances required to simulate climbing. it's also unlikely that raising your front wheel to simulate a slope will do anything other than cause discomfort in your nether regions.

    the best way of simulating long climbs indoors is to ride on a treadmill that can be inclined, but you'll need someone to be with you to check that you don't shoot off the back. these are great fun, and require enough attention to prevent boredom.

    however, just increasing the key variables of your fitness (i.e., MAP and TTpower) will enable you climb better whichever country you're in. additionally, when you know you're going to ride a long climb make sure your gears are appropriate for the grades involved.

    ric

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  6. ed073
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    ric_stern/RST said:

    the best way of simulating long climbs indoors is to ride on a treadmill that can be inclined, but you'll need someone to be with you to check that you don't shoot off the back. these are great fun, and require enough attention to prevent boredom.
    ric

    Remember when Chris Boardman did this much to the mirth of the professional peloton? Peter Keen's mind was always working.....

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  7. ric_stern/RST
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    ed073 said:

    Remember when Chris Boardman did this much to the mirth of the professional peloton? Peter Keen's mind was always working.....

    i remember it well. i was there in the lab at the time 😉

    it turned out to be one of my regular training sessions too!

    ric

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