Try Amazon.com for ELECTRIC KETTLES

Nancree said:

amazon.comindex=kitchen&field brOpen ↗ owse=284507&search-type=ss&field-
keywords=electric%20kettles&/qid=10769803
27/sr=1-4/ref=sr_1_4_etk-kitchen_all/103-5637639-3809402

www.tinyurl.com

~john

Levelwave© said:

Nancree said:

amazon.comindex=kitchen&field brOpen ↗ owse=284507&search-type=ss&field-
keywords=electric%20kettles&/qid=10769803
27/sr=1-4/ref=sr_1_4_etk-kitchen_all/103-5637639-3809402

www.tinyurl.com

~john

An excellent suggestion. But, I have a quesiton for you. Why has your name been coming out as
"Levelwave© <[email hidden]>" lately? what's with the nonsense characters?

BTW, Nancree- I just bought the T-Fal electric kettle from Amazon two weeks ago and it is excellent.

Sue(tm) Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself!

Curly Sue said:

Levelwave© said:

Nancree said:

amazon.comindex=kitchen&field brOpen ↗ owse=284507&search-type=ss&field-
keywords=electric%20kettles&/qid=10769803
27/sr=1-4/ref=sr_1_4_etk-kitchen_all/103-5637639-3809402

www.tinyurl.com

~john

An excellent suggestion. But, I have a quesiton for you. Why has your name been coming out as
"Levelwave© <[email hidden]>" lately? what's with the nonsense characters?

BTW, Nancree- I just bought the T-Fal electric kettle from Amazon two weeks ago and it is
excellent.

Sue(tm) Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself!

Thanks folks. I'm looking for a kettle that uses almost as much power as an electric clothes dryer
and will boil a liter of water in a few seconds. The one from the "tabletools" amazon affiliate
store that someone posted earlier is supposed to be a 3000W kettle, and I emailed the store for more
details (like what plug it uses) before I purchase one.

Best regards, Bob

zxcvbob <[email hidden]> wrote in
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Quoted message said:

Curly Sue said:

Levelwave© said:

Nancree wrote:

>amazon.comindex=kitchen&fieOpen ↗ ld-br owse=284507&search-type=ss&field-
>keywords=electric%20kettles&/qid=107 69803 27/sr=1-4/ref=sr_1_4_etk-kitchen_all/103-5637639-
>3809402

www.tinyurl.com

~john

An excellent suggestion. But, I have a quesiton for you. Why has your name been coming out as
"Levelwave© <[email hidden]>" lately? what's with the nonsense characters?

BTW, Nancree- I just bought the T-Fal electric kettle from Amazon two weeks ago and it is
excellent.

Sue(tm) Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself!

Thanks folks. I'm looking for a kettle that uses almost as much power as an electric clothes dryer
and will boil a liter of water in a few seconds. The one from the "tabletools" amazon affiliate
store that someone posted earlier is supposed to be a 3000W kettle, and I emailed the store for
more details (like what plug it uses) before I purchase one.

Best regards, Bob

Hope you find what you're looking for, Bob. I'm curious, though, about such an urgent need for hot
water. I usually find an ordinary kettle fast enough, or the microwave for a cup or so.

Wayne

Curly Sue said:

An excellent suggestion. But, I have a quesiton for you. Why has your name been coming out as
"Levelwave© <[email hidden]>" lately? what's with the nonsense characters?

Hmmm... I'm not seeing it on my end... My news provider News.CIS.DFN.DE just changed to
News.INDIVIDUAL.NET so there may be something screwy going on with that... Does this
message look OK?

thanks

~john

--
Say hello to the rug's topography...It holds quite a lot of interest with your face down on it...

Wayne Boatwright said:

zxcvbob <[email hidden]> wrote in :"]news:[email hidden]:

Quoted message said:

Curly Sue said:

On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 22:35:33 -0500, Levelwave© <[email hidden]> wrote:

>Nancree wrote:
>
>
>
>>amazon.comindex=kitchen&fieOpen ↗ ld-br owse=284507&search-type=ss&field-
>>keywords=electric%20kettles&/qid=107 69803 27/sr=1-4/ref=sr_1_4_etk-kitchen_all/103-5637639-
>>3809402
>
>www.tinyurl.com
>
>~john

An excellent suggestion. But, I have a quesiton for you. Why has your name been coming out as
"Levelwave© <[email hidden]>" lately? what's with the nonsense characters?

BTW, Nancree- I just bought the T-Fal electric kettle from Amazon two weeks ago and it is
excellent.

Sue(tm) Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself!

Thanks folks. I'm looking for a kettle that uses almost as much power as an electric clothes dryer
and will boil a liter of water in a few seconds. The one from the "tabletools" amazon affiliate
store that someone posted earlier is supposed to be a 3000W kettle, and I emailed the store for
more details (like what plug it uses) before I purchase one.

Best regards, Bob

Hope you find what you're looking for, Bob. I'm curious, though, about such an urgent need for hot
water. I usually find an ordinary kettle fast enough, or the microwave for a cup or so.

Wayne

Need has very little to do with it :-) My wife drinks a lot of tea in the winter, and I do too when
I'm sick. Being able to boil the water quickly is a good thing. I like to make coffee in a french
press sometimes, and it takes a long time to boil a liter of water on the stove. Plus just the
novelty of having a 220V outlet in the kitchen for a 60-slice toaster or a big fryer or boiler (or a
small welder.)

I think the novelty factor is the main thing.

Best regards, Bob

zxcvbob <[email hidden]> wrote in
:"]news:[email hidden]:

Quoted message said:

Wayne Boatwright said:

zxcvbob <[email hidden]> wrote in :"]news:[email hidden]:

Quoted message said:

Curly Sue wrote:

>On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 22:35:33 -0500, Levelwave© <[email hidden]> wrote:
>
>
>
>>Nancree wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>amazon.comindex=kitchen&fOpen ↗ ie ld-br owse=284507&search-type=ss&field-
>>>keywords=electric%20kettles&/qid=1 07 69803 27/sr=1-4/ref=sr_1_4_etk-kitchen_all/103-5637639-
>>>3809402
>>
>>www.tinyurl.com
>>
>>~john
>
>
>An excellent suggestion. But, I have a quesiton for you. Why has your name been coming out as
>"Levelwave© <[email hidden]>" lately? what's with the nonsense characters?
>
>BTW, Nancree- I just bought the T-Fal electric kettle from Amazon two weeks ago and it is
>excellent.
>
>Sue(tm) Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself!

Thanks folks. I'm looking for a kettle that uses almost as much power as an electric clothes
dryer and will boil a liter of water in a few seconds. The one from the "tabletools" amazon
affiliate store that someone posted earlier is supposed to be a 3000W kettle, and I emailed the
store for more details (like what plug it uses) before I purchase one.

Best regards, Bob

Hope you find what you're looking for, Bob. I'm curious, though, about such an urgent need for
hot water. I usually find an ordinary kettle fast enough, or the microwave for a cup or so.

Wayne

Need has very little to do with it :-) My wife drinks a lot of tea in the winter, and I do too
when I'm sick. Being able to boil the water quickly is a good thing. I like to make coffee in a
french press sometimes, and it takes a long time to boil a liter of water on the stove. Plus just
the novelty of having a 220V outlet in the kitchen for a 60-slice toaster or a big fryer or boiler
(or a small welder.)

I think the novelty factor is the main thing.

Best regards, Bob

All good points. Just wondered. Powering a big fryer or a high-quality induction unit would
appeal to me.

Wayne

Levelwave(c) said:

Curly Sue said:

An excellent suggestion. But, I have a quesiton for you. Why has your name been coming out as
"Levelwave© <[email hidden]>" lately? what's with the nonsense characters?

Hmmm... I'm not seeing it on my end... My news provider News.CIS.DFN.DE just changed to
News.INDIVIDUAL.NET so there may be something screwy going on with that... Does this message
look OK?

thanks

~john

I bet her news reader is doing something screwy because of the copyright symbol:

Path: uni-berlin.de!pcp03042906pcs.andrsn01.tn.comcast.NET!not-for-mail From: Levelwave©
<[email hidden]> Newsgroups: rec.food.cooking Subject: Re: Try Amazon.com for ELECTRIC KETTLES
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 22:35:33 -0500 Lines: 9 Message-ID: <[email hidden]-
berlin.de> References: <[email hidden]> NNTP-Posting-Host:
pcp03042906pcs.andrsn01.tn.comcast.net (68.59.186.148) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;
charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de
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m01.aol.com> Xref: uni-berlin.de rec.food.cooking:1184129

My newsreader renders it just fine. (Let's see what happens when I select Simplified Chinese)

Best regards, Bob

Levelwave© said:

Curly Sue said:

An excellent suggestion. But, I have a quesiton for you. Why has your name been coming out as
"Levelwave© <[email hidden]>" lately? what's with the nonsense characters?

Hmmm... I'm not seeing it on my end... My news provider News.CIS.DFN.DE just changed to
News.INDIVIDUAL.NET so there may be something screwy going on with that... Does this
message look OK?

thanks

~john

Still the same. The only thing that's screwy is your name listing in the listing of articles and the
message headers.

I have an old newsreader (Free Agent) and Bob mentioned something about a copyright symbol. Perhaps
that's what the "Levelwave©" is about- my newsreader might not do special symbols like that. Your
name has been showing up like that for a while now; did you add the symbol within the past couple
of months?

Sue(tm) Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself!

Levelwave© said:

Curly Sue said:

An excellent suggestion. But, I have a quesiton for you. Why has your name been coming out as
"Levelwave© <[email hidden]>" lately? what's with the nonsense characters?

Hmmm... I'm not seeing it on my end... My news provider News.CIS.DFN.DE just changed to
News.INDIVIDUAL.NET so there may be something screwy going on with that... Does this
message look OK?

thanks

~john

OK, I went to Google, via my browser, and saw that you have a copyright symbol after "Levelwave" and
that you started using it in January or so, which is when I noticed the garbage characters. So my
reader is just too old to translate (c) character.

That explains it!

Sue(tm) Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself!

On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 22:20:53 -0600, zxcvbob <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Need has very little to do with it :-) My wife drinks a lot of tea in the winter, and I do too when
I'm sick. Being able to boil the water quickly is a good thing. I like to make coffee in a french
press sometimes, and it takes a long time to boil a liter of water on the stove. Plus just the
novelty of having a 220V outlet in the kitchen for a 60-slice toaster or a big fryer or boiler (or
a small welder.)

I think the novelty factor is the main thing.

Best regards, Bob

Why not install one of those gizmos that is connected with the sink and offers hot water instantly?

Boron

Boron Elgar <[email hidden]> wrote in
:"]news:[email hidden]:

Quoted message said:

zxcvbob said:

Need has very little to do with it :-) My wife drinks a lot of tea in the winter, and I do too
when I'm sick. Being able to boil the water quickly is a good thing. I like to make coffee in a
french press sometimes, and it takes a long time to boil a liter of water on the stove. Plus just
the novelty of having a 220V outlet in the kitchen for a 60-slice toaster or a big fryer or boiler
(or a small welder.)

I think the novelty factor is the main thing.

Best regards, Bob

Why not install one of those gizmos that is connected with the sink and offers hot water
instantly?

Boron

My guess is it's neither hot enough nor fresh enough for a serious tea drinker. The best tea brews
with freshly drawn cold water quickly brought to a fast boil, then quickly poured over the tea
leaves. The instant hot units are rather like a household hot water tank. The hot water sits in the
tank until needed and is held at an under boiling point temperature. Not only is low temperature a
factor, but the water in no longer well-oxygenated.

Having said that, I have an Insta-Hot and I love it. However, I don't brew tea. I use it for
softening gelatin, adding to frozen vegetables for a quicker start in cooking, etc.

Wayne

Wayne Boatwright said:

Boron Elgar <[email hidden]> wrote in
:"]news:[email hidden]:

Quoted message said:

zxcvbob said:

Need has very little to do with it :-) My wife drinks a lot of tea in the winter, and I do too
when I'm sick. Being able to boil the water quickly is a good thing. I like to make coffee in a
french press sometimes, and it takes a long time to boil a liter of water on the stove. Plus just
the novelty of having a 220V outlet in the kitchen for a 60-slice toaster or a big fryer or
boiler (or a small welder.)

I think the novelty factor is the main thing.

Best regards, Bob

Why not install one of those gizmos that is connected with the sink and offers hot water
instantly?

Boron

My guess is it's neither hot enough nor fresh enough for a serious tea drinker. The best tea brews
with freshly drawn cold water quickly brought to a fast boil, then quickly poured over the tea
leaves. The instant hot units are rather like a household hot water tank. The hot water sits in the
tank until needed and is held at an under boiling point temperature. Not only is low temperature a
factor, but the water in no longer well-oxygenated.

Having said that, I have an Insta-Hot and I love it. However, I don't brew tea. I use it for
softening gelatin, adding to frozen vegetables for a quicker start in cooking, etc.

Wayne

I confess that I am not much of a tea drinker. Red Rose tea bag in a microwaved cup of hot water is
all I ever need if I have the sniffles.

I do use an electric kettle for coffee, though.

boron

Boron Elgar <[email hidden]> wrote in
:"]news:[email hidden]:

Quoted message said:

Wayne Boatwright said:

Boron Elgar <[email hidden]> wrote in
:"]news:[email hidden]:

Quoted message said:

On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 22:20:53 -0600, zxcvbob <[email hidden]> wrote:

>
>Need has very little to do with it :-) My wife drinks a lot of tea in the winter, and I do too
>when I'm sick. Being able to boil the water quickly is a good thing. I like to make coffee in a
>french press sometimes, and it takes a long time to boil a liter of water on the stove. Plus
>just the novelty of having a 220V outlet in the kitchen for a 60-slice toaster or a big fryer or
>boiler (or a small welder.)
>
>I think the novelty factor is the main thing.
>
>Best regards, Bob

Why not install one of those gizmos that is connected with the sink and offers hot water
instantly?

Boron

My guess is it's neither hot enough nor fresh enough for a serious tea drinker. The best tea brews
with freshly drawn cold water quickly brought to a fast boil, then quickly poured over the tea
leaves. The instant hot units are rather like a household hot water tank. The hot water sits in
the tank until needed and is held at an under boiling point temperature. Not only is low
temperature a factor, but the water in no longer well-oxygenated.

Having said that, I have an Insta-Hot and I love it. However, I don't brew tea. I use it for
softening gelatin, adding to frozen vegetables for a quicker start in cooking, etc.

Wayne

I confess that I am not much of a tea drinker. Red Rose tea bag in a microwaved cup of hot water
is all I ever need if I have the sniffles.

I do use an electric kettle for coffee, though.

boron

Not being a serious tea drinker, on the rare occasion I make a cup of tea, I use the Insta-Hot and
put a teabag in a cup, basically the same thing as you do. I think the reason there are so many more
electric kettles in use in the UK is the British affinity for good tea. They'll use a
"sachet"/teabag in a pinch, but most use loose tea in a teapot with freshly boiled water.

Cheers, Wayne

Wayne Boatwright said:

Boron Elgar <[email hidden]> wrote in
:"]news:[email hidden]:

Quoted message said:

Wayne Boatwright said:

Boron Elgar <[email hidden]> wrote in
:"]news:[email hidden]:

>On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 22:20:53 -0600, zxcvbob <[email hidden]> wrote:
>
>
>
>>Need has very little to do with it :-) My wife drinks a lot of tea in the winter, and I do too
>>when I'm sick. Being able to boil the water quickly is a good thing. I like to make coffee in a
>>french press sometimes, and it takes a long time to boil a liter of water on the stove. Plus
>>just the novelty of having a 220V outlet in the kitchen for a 60-slice toaster or a big fryer
>>or boiler (or a small welder.)
>>
>>I think the novelty factor is the main thing.
>>
>>Best regards, Bob
>
>Why not install one of those gizmos that is connected with the sink and offers hot water
>instantly?
>
>Boron
>

My guess is it's neither hot enough nor fresh enough for a serious tea drinker. The best tea
brews with freshly drawn cold water quickly brought to a fast boil, then quickly poured over the
tea leaves. The instant hot units are rather like a household hot water tank. The hot water sits
in the tank until needed and is held at an under boiling point temperature. Not only is low
temperature a factor, but the water in no longer well-oxygenated.

Having said that, I have an Insta-Hot and I love it. However, I don't brew tea. I use it for
softening gelatin, adding to frozen vegetables for a quicker start in cooking, etc.

Wayne

I confess that I am not much of a tea drinker. Red Rose tea bag in a microwaved cup of hot water
is all I ever need if I have the sniffles.

I do use an electric kettle for coffee, though.

boron

Not being a serious tea drinker, on the rare occasion I make a cup of tea, I use the Insta-Hot and
put a teabag in a cup, basically the same thing as you do. I think the reason there are so many
more electric kettles in use in the UK is the British affinity for good tea. They'll use a
"sachet"/teabag in a pinch, but most use loose tea in a teapot with freshly boiled water.

Cheers, Wayne

I had one of those instant hot water things in a house 15 years ago and really liked it. But my
kitchen now has a *deep* cast iron sink without enough holes to add any gadgets, and no electricity
under the sink. Also, I think the hot water tank only held about 2 cups.

If I've got to run more wires, I'd rather run them to the countertop. Probably a split 110/220V
duplex outlet on a dedicated 15A circuit. 14/3 cable is pretty easy to work with. Since it's more
than 6 feet from the sink, I'd probably fudge on the GFCI that the new electric code requires for
the 110V half -- it wouldn't have been required a few years ago. If someone squawks about it later,
I can replace the split voltage outlet with a 220V-only outlet and no GFCI is required.

Best regards, Bob

zxcvbob <[email hidden]> wrote in
:"]news:[email hidden]:

Quoted message said:

I had one of those instant hot water things in a house 15 years ago and really liked it. But my
kitchen now has a *deep* cast iron sink without enough holes to add any gadgets, and no
electricity under the sink. Also, I think the hot water tank only held about 2 cups.

Mine holds a quart, but perhaps the older ones did not. Even a quart is not all that much hot water
since the recovery time is not terribly fast.

Quoted message said:

If I've got to run more wires, I'd rather run them to the countertop. Probably a split 110/220V
duplex outlet on a dedicated 15A circuit.
14/3 cable is pretty easy to work with. Since it's more than 6 feet from the sink, I'd probably
fudge on the GFCI that the new electric code requires for the 110V half -- it wouldn't have
been required a few years ago. If someone squawks about it later, I can replace the split
voltage outlet with a 220V-only outlet and no GFCI is required.

Best regards, Bob

Sounds like a plan! The more I think about it, the idea of having a 220V outlet in the kitchen is
really appealing. There are UK appliances that I like and would be able to use if I had one.

Wayne