True drunk driving story.

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I had a pal that would happily drive his 4 mates (me
included) around and we would keep him in ginger ale, or
whatever stuff he was on for the night. Perfect symbiosis.

The crowd I hung out in, whoever drove, the rest of us would
keep supplied with the alcohol-free stuff all evening. I've
never had a problem not drinking & driving. As far as I'm
concerned, it's a no-no. If someone else is driving, I'll
happily consume a few glasses of the fermented juice of
grape, but I will not drink/drive or cycle/drive.

Cheers, helen s

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Going to a very strict Catholic school meant that a lot of
my mates were tee total

Having lived with a houseload of Catholics at university (I
even joined the Catholic society as a social member), the
idea of a teetotal Catholic seems quite unbelievable to me.

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(as opposed to the nuns and priests who stank of the
stuff).

That sounds about right, though :-)

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On a similar note a Catholic colleague ate a bacon sarnie
on Good Friday morning shift. When I pointed this out he
looked at me in horror, until he relaxed and said "It's OK
- no one will know".

Why should you always invite two Methodists to a party?

If you only invite one, he'll drink all your beer.

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On 20 May 2004 16:34:05 GMT, [email hidden]

(dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers) said:

but I will not drink/drive or cycle/drive.

You find cycling affects your ability to drive?

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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I had a pal that would happily drive his 4 mates (me
included) around and we would keep him in ginger ale, or

whatever

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

stuff he was on for the night. Perfect symbiosis.

The crowd I hung out in, whoever drove, the rest of us
would keep supplied

with

Quoted message said:

the alcohol-free stuff all evening. I've never had a
problem not drinking

&

Quoted message said:

driving. As far as I'm concerned, it's a no-no. If
someone else is

driving,

Quoted message said:

I'll happily consume a few glasses of the fermented juice
of grape, but I

will

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not drink/drive or cycle/drive.

Yes, I don't cycle/drive either. I find it's the devil's own
job to pedal while also controlling the accelerator and
brake on the car.

Simon Mason said:

Following on from the alcoholics thread,

A police patrol saw a car driving just a little erratically,
and pulled it over. The policeman asked the driver, a
retired major type, when he last had a drink.

"1950," boomed the major dramatically.

The policeman apologised, and was about to let the major go,
when the major glanced at his watch and continued,

"...and it's already nearly 20:15, mustn't be late for my
nightcap."

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Quoted message said:

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but I will not drink/drive or cycle/drive.

You find cycling affects your ability to drive?

Glad you spotted my deliberate error to see if readers are
awake ;-)

Of course it should be drink/cycle

Cheers, helen s

Is it a criminal offense to ride a bike while under the
influence of alchohol?

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Is it a criminal offense to ride a bike while under the
influence of alchohol?

It is, yes. You would though have to be falling off or
wobbling about alarmingly to get done . Whether you are
drunk is entirely subjective and up the police officer, as
no breathalyser test is allowed. You cannot have any
driving licence endorsement either. Riding whilst drunk is
obviously very silly, but I have been to the pub on my
bike, had a couple and ridden home OK, but I agree it's
best not to.
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Quoted message said:

>but I will not drink/drive or cycle/drive.

You find cycling affects your ability to drive?

Glad you spotted my deliberate error to see if readers
are awake ;-)

Of course it should be drink/cycle

Cheers, helen s

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Is it a criminal offense to ride a bike while under the
influence of alchohol?

It is to be *drunk* in charge of a carriage (of which a
bicycle is one). Drunk usually implies a higher level of
intoxication than the drink/drive limit.

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erics said:

Is it a criminal offense to ride a bike while under the
influence of alchohol?

Yes, but:

- there is no absolute limit as for driving
- your driving licence cannot be affected by a conviction
for cycling while drunk

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erics said:

Is it a criminal offense to ride a bike while under the
influence of alchohol?

Yep, but under the pre-breathalyser road laws - the offence
is to be arbitrarily drunk, not to have a blood alcohol
level above a set amount.

(normal IANAL caveats apply)

Roger

Now I know a chap, who shall remain nameless but is a bit
of a black sheep and has frequented Her Majesty's
Correctional Facilities, who apparently avoided a drink
drive charge recently.

The copper had pulled him over and they were standing beside
the squad car discussing the boozy smell on his breath. I
think something must have distracted the policmen for a
second because this chap leaned into the squad car whilst
the copper wasn't looking and half-inched the breathalyser
(stuffing it up his jumper.). PC subsequently can't find the
breathalyser and lets this guy go.

I hear that he regularly breathalyses himself with said
stolen goods following a night on the tiles to see if he's
within the driving
limit. And apparently if you've eaten recently you can get
away with a good few pints and get away with it.

Scary.

helen:

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Whether it is or isn't matters not to me. Alcohol does
adversely affect judgement, reflexes etc., and I really
don't wnt to be drunk on a bike and wobble into the path
of a vehicle, or pedestrian, other cyclist... tree...
ditch... bed of nettles...

Indeed. A friend of mine once found this out while cycling
home from the pub drunk - broken arm, broken collarbone,
numerous cuts and grazes, severe concussion...

Fortunately, no other vehicles involved - just him and a
kerb that wouldn't stay in its lane.

d.

Upon the miasma of midnight, a darkling spirit identified as
dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers <[email hidden]> breathed:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I had a pal that would happily drive his 4 mates (me
included) around and we would keep him in ginger ale, or
whatever stuff he was on for the night. Perfect symbiosis.

Quoted message said:

The crowd I hung out in, whoever drove, the rest of us
would keep supplied with the alcohol-free stuff all
evening. I've never had a problem not drinking & driving.
As far as I'm concerned, it's a no-no. If someone else is
driving, I'll happily consume a few glasses of the
fermented juice of grape, but I will not drink/drive or
cycle/drive.

The only thing that bugs me about not drinking is the utter
lack of choice.

Ask a pub what beers they've got and you'll get a long list
of lagers, ales, plus at least one cider (and usually a
different one in bottles).

Ask them what low alcohol drinks they've got and they'll
grunt "LA" at you, invariably some horrid lager-based thing.
Try to explain to the barperson that "LA" simply means "low
alcohol" and what you want is to know what choice of low
alcohol drinks they've actually got and you'll get the same
look you would if you ordered a deep fried ferret in fresh
badger sauce.

:-(

If only they did tomato and fruit juices at decent prices it
wouldn't be so bad, but if everyone else is drinking pints
of ale at 1.70 each, then if I can't have a low-alcohol
version of the same thing (note ale, *not* lager), I want a
pint of orange or tomato juice at the same price, not some
daft fancy version at 2 quid a (small) bottle.

A few places, including my local Goth nightclub, do orange
juice in the form of one litre supermarket UHT cartons from
which they'll merrily sell you a pint for 1.60, which is
more than reasonable, but way too many places don't.

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Pyromancer said:

Someone over the limit in charge of a motor vehicle is a
major hazard to people other than themselves, not to
mention their ability to damage property.

What always baffles me is that it is seen as perfectly
acceptable that the risk a drunk driver poses is such that
an automatic ban is socially acceptable, yet there is an
immediate backlash as soon as it is suggested that a similar
penalty should apply for actually killing someone or causing
serious injury (i.e. the outcome whose risk is considered so
unacceptable in the case of drink-driving).

It seems that the fact that death was an unintended
consequence is sufficient excuse. Although in the case of a
drunk the fact that they might have got home without harming
anyone is not. It is most curious.

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Quoted message said:

If only they did tomato and fruit juices at decent prices
it wouldn't be so bad, but if everyone else is drinking
pints of ale at 1.70 each, then if I can't have a low-
alcohol version of the same thing (note ale, *not* lager),
I want a pint of orange or tomato juice at the same price,
not some daft fancy version at 2 quid a (small) bottle.

When I didn't drink alcohol, I used to ask for orange
cordial, diluted with a pint of water. Cost a hell of a lot
less than juices.

Simon M.

On Fri, 21 May 2004 09:26:57 +0100, "erics"

eric@No_SpaMthe-stannards.co.uk_Thanks said:

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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>but I will not drink/drive or cycle/drive.

You find cycling affects your ability to drive?

Glad you spotted my deliberate error to see if readers
are awake ;-)

Of course it should be drink/cycle

Cheers, helen s

Is it a criminal offense to ride a bike while under the
influence of alchohol?

Not only to ride a bike but even to push a bike. Or, indeed
to stand next to a bike. The offence is "drunk in charge";
riding is not required.

However, as you won't get points on any licence, you can't
be breathalysed and you're only putting yourself at risk I
wouldn't worry too much about it.

I wonder if drunk cycling is safer than drunk walking seeing
as overall cycling is safer than walking.

Other bike/booze related fact (reference mislaid): the
average blood alcohol level of KSIs (maybe just Ks) is lower
for cyclists than for peds, car drivers and car passengers.

Gripe: ABD (and others) ducking responsibility for drivers
killing people by observing that x% of K'd peds have a blood
alcohol level greater than the limit for driving.

Pyromancer said:

Upon the miasma of midnight, a darkling spirit identified
as "Just zis Guy, you know?" <[email hidden]>
breathed:

Quoted message said:

erics wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Is it a criminal offense to ride a bike while under the
influence of alchohol?

Quoted message said:

Yes, but:

- there is no absolute limit as for driving
- your driving licence cannot be affected by a conviction
for cycling while drunk

This seems mostly reasonable, as your ability to kill other
people is rather less on a bike than in motor vehicle -
you'd have to be going rather faster than is usually
possible before you could wipe out a complete bus queue,
and your ability to damage property is little greater than
that of a pedestrian.

A drunk cyclist is mostly a hazard to themselves, though
they could be the cause of a different accident.

Er, how?

If you mean a driver might not be in full control of their
vehicle when the drunk cyclist/ped/errant dog emerges onto
the highway and their evasive action causes a 'different'
incident, I'd say it's pretty clearly the driver's fault.

Quoted message said:

Someone over the limit in charge of a motor vehicle is a
major hazard to people other than themselves, not to
mention their ability to damage property.

Simon Mason said:

Following on from the alcoholics thread, a great true
story just sprung to mind. Going to a very strict Catholic
school ...

Hi Simon

I've found my excuse :-)

James

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A drunk cyclist is mostly a hazard to themselves, though
they could be the cause of a different accident.

Er, how?

If you mean a driver might not be in full control of their
vehicle when the drunk cyclist/ped/errant dog emerges onto
the highway and their evasive action causes a 'different'
incident, I'd say it's pretty clearly the driver's fault.

I don't know. Whilst I fully agree that when in charge of a
potentially lethal object, etc...I also find it hard to
blame any driver for, eg, being hit by a missile lobbed off
an overbridge by a drunken [censored], and a subsequent crash. I
think that probably goes beyond due care and diligence.