Trolling

Quoted post said:

Originally posted by davebee
What is it?? 😕

Seen it mention several times and haven't got the foggiest what it means. Please enlighten me.

The Jargon Dictionary - http://info.astrian.net/jargon/terms/t/troll.html
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The Jargon Dictionary : Terms : The T Terms : troll

troll
troll v.,n. 1. [From the Usenet group alt.folklore.urban] To utter a posting on Usenet designed to attract predictable responses or flames; or, the post itself. Derives from the phrase "trolling for newbies" which in turn comes from mainstream "trolling", a style of fishing in which one trails bait through a likely spot hoping for a bite. The well-constructed troll is a post that induces lots of newbies and flamers to make themselves look even more clueless than they already do, while subtly conveying to the more savvy and experienced that it is in fact a deliberate troll. If you don't fall for the joke, you get to be in on it. See also YHBT. 2. An individual who chronically trolls in sense 1; regularly posts specious arguments, flames or personal attacks to a newsgroup, discussion list, or in email for no other purpose than to annoy someone or disrupt a discussion. Trolls are recognizable by the fact that the have no real interest in learning about the topic at hand - they simply want to utter flame bait. Like the ugly creatures they are named after, they exhibit no redeeming characteristics, and as such, they are recognized as a lower form of life on the net, as in, "Oh, ignore him, he's just a troll." 3. [Berkeley] Computer lab monitor. A popular campus job for CS students. Duties include helping newbies and ensuring that lab policies are followed. Probably so-called because it involves lurking in dark cavelike corners.
Some people claim that the troll (sense 1) is properly a narrower category than flame bait, that a troll is categorized by containing some assertion that is wrong but not overtly controversial. See also Troll-O-Meter.

The use of `troll' in either sense is a live metaphor that readily produces elaborations and combining forms. For example, one not infrequently sees the warning "Do not feed the troll" as part of a followup to troll postings.

davebee said:

What is it?? 😕

Seen it mention several times and haven't got the foggiest what it means. Please enlighten me.

In normal conversation, it would be deliberately trying to start an argument by making inflammatory
statements. The Wikipedia explains it better: en.wikipedia.orgInternet trollOpen ↗

davebee said:

What is it?? 😕

Seen it mention several times and haven't got the foggiest what it means. Please enlighten me.

Deliberately winding people up.

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davebee said:

What is it?? 😕

Seen it mention several times and haven't got the foggiest what it means. Please enlighten me.

It comes from the type of fishing where you pull the bait or lure behind a mving boat in the hope
that something will pounce on it. In Usenet terms, you post something that is deliberately intended
to inflame or confuse in the hope that it will generate a lot of replies. It usually works.

RogerDodger said:

davebee said:

What is it?? 😕 Seen it mention several times and haven't got the foggiest what it means.
Please enlighten me.

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One other feature of trolls is that they sometimes cross post between two disparate news groups, alt.rush-
limbaugh and

uk.rec.cars and uk.rec.cycling would work pretty well.

See the Jargon file quote for spam: info.astrian.netspam.htmlOpen ↗

Quoted message said:

For example, one not infrequently sees the warning "Do
not feed the troll" as part of a followup to troll
postings.

(N.B. You will need a fixed space font to appreciate these)

.--------------.
| Please do |
| not feed the |
| TROLL |
!______________!
|| {*}
|| |
|| \ | /
______\v/____||__________\V/___

.:\:/:. +-------------------+ .:\:\:/:/:.
| PLEASE DO NOT | :.:\:\:/:/:.:
| FEED THE TROLLS | :=.' - - '.=:
| | '=(\ 9 9 /)='
| Thank you, | ( (_) )
| Management | /`-vvv-'\
+-------------------+ / \
| | @@@ / /|,,,,,|\ \ @@@ /_// /^\ \\_\
@x@@x@ | | |/ WW( ( ) )WW \||||/ | | \| __\,,\ /,,/__ \||/ | | | jgs (______Y______)
/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\//\/\\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\

___________________
/| /| | |
||__|| | Please do |
/ O O\__ NOT | / \ feed the | / \ \ the trolls | / _ \ \
_______________| / |\____\ \ || / | | | |\____/ || / \|_|_|/ | __|| / /
\ |____| || / | | /| | --|
| | |// |____ --|
* _ | |_|_|_| | \-/ *-- _--\ _ \ // | / _ \\ _ // | /
* / \_ /- | - | |
* ___ c_c_c_C/ \C_c_c_c____________

from: <http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=bauF8.37848%24e66.3350103%40bin6.nnrp.aus1.giganews.com>

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"Zog The Undeniable" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

It comes from the type of fishing where you pull the bait or lure behind a mving boat in the
hope that something will pounce on it. In Usenet terms, you post something that is
deliberately intended to inflame or confuse in the hope that it will generate a lot of
replies. It usually works.

I think a fair proportion of the people who post on here are actually trolls. No one can possibly be
as stupid as to believe a lot of the stuff that gets said.

"AndyP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

"Zog The Undeniable" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

It comes from the type of fishing where you pull the bait or lure behind a mving boat in the
hope that something will pounce on it. In Usenet terms, you post something that is deliberately
intended to inflame or confuse in the hope that it will generate a lot of replies. It usually
works.

I think a fair proportion of the people who post on here are actually trolls. No one can possibly
be as stupid as to believe a lot of the stuff that gets said.

Which probably counts as an example of trolling.....

Rich

Alan J. Wylie said:

(N.B. You will need a fixed space font to appreciate these)

/| /| | |
||__|| | Please do |
/ O O\__ NOT | / \ feed the | / \ \ the trolls | / _ \ \ _______________|
/ |\____\ \ || / | | | |\____/ || / \|_|_|/ | __|| / / \ |____| || / | |
/| | --|
| | |// |____ --|
* _ | |_|_|_| | \-/ *-- _--\ _ \ // | / _ \\ _ // | /
* / \_ /- | - | |
* ___ c_c_c_C/ \C_c_c_c____________

That looks more clanger-like than troll-like to me.

regards, Ian SMith
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