Tricks on A 'Bent?

NYC XYZ said:

wondering if anyone ever do anything
"dangerous" on their 'bent (or trikes) -- besides merely being on the
road, that is....

Is riding a bent any more dangerous than riding DFs? If not, please
repeat after me:

"RIDING A BIKE IS NOT A DANGEROUS ACTIVITY."

Thank you.

RFM
http://www.cyclelicio.us/

NYC XYZ said:

Just curious. I saw some trike ad with this guy doing a Dukes of
Hazzard kind of thing and was wondering if anyone ever do anything
"dangerous" on their 'bent (or trikes) -- besides merely being on the
road, that is....

Perhaps you are looking for something like this:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~markjan/hurricane/tricks.html

Videos of jumping, standing on the seat, and so on. Actually I miss the
disclaimer "Kids, don't try this at home!" ;-)

Kurt

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NYC XYZ said:

wondering if anyone ever do anything
"dangerous" on their 'bent (or trikes) -- besides merely being on the
road, that is....

Is riding a bent any more dangerous than riding DFs? If not, please
repeat after me:

"RIDING A BIKE IS NOT A DANGEROUS ACTIVITY."

Thank you.

RFM
http://www.cyclelicio.us/

Besides which, I find that when I'm on my 'bent, I'm given far more room and
courtesy by motorists than when I'm on my 'normal' bike.

Plus, riding a bike is *not* inherently dangerous.

Cheers, helen s

NYC XYZ said:

Just curious. I saw some trike ad with this guy doing a Dukes of
Hazzard kind of thing and was wondering if anyone ever do anything
"dangerous" on their 'bent (or trikes) -- besides merely being on the
road, that is....

If I wasn't already diagnosed with a herniated vetebra I would have
like to go over a speed bump real fast on my SMGTe...assuming I keep
the bike in balance on landing, I guess the next thing to do is keep
myself in the seat and not bounce out!

I have read that 'tricks' on a 'bent where you 'catch air' can lead to
spinal compression injuries.

Ken
--
You never have the wind with you - either it is against you or you're
having a good day. ~Daniel Behrman, The Man Who Loved Bicycles

Homepage: http://kcm-home.tripod.com/

Ken C. M. said:

I have read that 'tricks' on a 'bent where you 'catch air' can lead to
spinal compression injuries.

I'd think so, but OTOH how is that not true of uprights, skateboards,
snowboards, high jumping etc.?

My friendly neighbourhood 'bentmonger has a festive pic in the shop of
him getting Big Air on an original Streetmachine (as opposed to the GT
or GTe). Doesn't seem to have affected him (though I have a feeling the
rear triangle may have bent a bit over repeated incidents...).

Pete.
--
Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer
Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
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Peter Clinch said:

Ken C. M. said:

I have read that 'tricks' on a 'bent where you 'catch air' can lead to
spinal compression injuries.

I'd think so, but OTOH how is that not true of uprights, skateboards,
snowboards, high jumping etc.?

My friendly neighbourhood 'bentmonger has a festive pic in the shop of
him getting Big Air on an original Streetmachine (as opposed to the GT
or GTe). Doesn't seem to have affected him (though I have a feeling the
rear triangle may have bent a bit over repeated incidents...).

Pete.

From what I remember reading it has something to do with being in the
seat of a 'bent versus being off the saddle of a df. And it seems to
make sense to me on a df you can be off the saddle and have your weight
spread out over the crank arms and handle bars, where as on a bent this
is more difficult to do, however I have also read about being able shift
the riders weight between the back of the seat and the crank arms on a bent.

Ken
--
You never have the wind with you - either it is against you or you're
having a good day. ~Daniel Behrman, The Man Who Loved Bicycles

Homepage: http://kcm-home.tripod.com/

Peter Clinch said:

Ken C. M. said:

I have read that 'tricks' on a 'bent where you 'catch air' can lead to
spinal compression injuries.

I'd think so, but OTOH how is that not true of uprights, skateboards,
snowboards, high jumping etc.?

If you think about those devices/activities they all allow you to
absorb the shock of landing by flexing your legs.

Andy

Sorry, I didn't mean "dangerous" vis-a-vis upwrongs...I meant that
being out there on the road in anything other than a car is risky in
itself -- and that's not even counting the ones who INTENTIONALLY drive
into you, throw stuff at you, etc.

Fritz M said:

Is riding a bent any more dangerous than riding DFs? If not, please
repeat after me:

"RIDING A BIKE IS NOT A DANGEROUS ACTIVITY."

Thank you.

RFM
http://www.cyclelicio.us/

Andy said:

If you think about those devices/activities they all allow you to
absorb the shock of landing by flexing your legs.

/if/ you get it right. And /if/ you get it right so a suspended 'bent
can take the shock for you then you'd probably be okay. What I'm saying
is there is no objectively perfectly safe method of getting Big Air and
using a 'bent isn't guaranteed to blow it for you either.

Pete.
--
Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer
Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
net [email hidden] http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/

Peter Clinch said:

Ken C. M. said:

I have read that 'tricks' on a 'bent where you 'catch air' can lead to
spinal compression injuries.

I'd think so, but OTOH how is that not true of uprights, skateboards,
snowboards, high jumping etc.?

Because on an upright your spine is not in a direct vertical line (except
for sit-up-and-beg type bikes). Thus a bump does not cause a direct
compression of your spine. And for all the above your legs will absorb a
much larger portion of the shock.

--
Dane Buson - [email hidden]
The Official MBA Handbook on business cards:
Avoid overly pretentious job titles such as "Lord of the Realm, Defender of
the Faith, Emperor of India" or "Director of Corporate Planning."

Kurt Fischer said:

Perhaps you are looking for something like this:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~markjan/hurricane/tricks.html

I've actually met Mark Jan and can confirm that he's got even better at
doing crazy stuff. I've seen him drive over speed bumps without hands.
He regularly drives for longer periods of time without hands...

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Videos of jumping, standing on the seat, and so on. Actually I miss the
disclaimer "Kids, don't try this at home!" ;-)

Kids, don't try this at home. These are very dangerous tricks to perform
in your living room. Instead try it on the open road... ;-)

Arnold.

Edward Dolan wrote in part:

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The fact is that riding your bike, any kind of a bike, on a busy highway
without any shoulders and with lots of fast moving traffic is one of the
most dangerous things you can do. Only those who are bereft of the common
sense they were born with, like Helen, would ever think otherwise.

Your life must certainly be boring if riding a bike anywhere is "one of
the most dangerous things" you do. Perhaps *you* are the one that
should pursue homemaking skills.

Regards,
Bob Hunt

Um...so do I need a helmet?

;->

Arnold Ligtvoet said:

Kurt Fischer said:

Perhaps you are looking for something like this:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~markjan/hurricane/tricks.html

I've actually met Mark Jan and can confirm that he's got even better at
doing crazy stuff. I've seen him drive over speed bumps without hands.
He regularly drives for longer periods of time without hands...

Quoted message said:

Videos of jumping, standing on the seat, and so on. Actually I miss the
disclaimer "Kids, don't try this at home!" ;-)

Kids, don't try this at home. These are very dangerous tricks to perform
in your living room. Instead try it on the open road... ;-)

Arnold.

How 'bout on something like the HP Velotechnik SMGTe? The spine isn't
on a vertical line -- this 'bent seems like a REAL 'bent to me, truly
reclined with a highly-regarded full-suspension system....

I'll probably give it a try myself...I went over a speed bump "by
accident" once, though not fast, and I was bouncing like on a
trampoline! It was fun, though, which is why I wonder....

Dane Buson said:

Because on an upright your spine is not in a direct vertical line (except
for sit-up-and-beg type bikes). Thus a bump does not cause a direct
compression of your spine. And for all the above your legs will absorb a
much larger portion of the shock.

--
Dane Buson - [email hidden]
The Official MBA Handbook on business cards:
Avoid overly pretentious job titles such as "Lord of the Realm, Defender of
the Faith, Emperor of India" or "Director of Corporate Planning."

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Edward Dolan wrote in part:

Quoted message said:

The fact is that riding your bike, any kind of a bike, on a busy highway
without any shoulders and with lots of fast moving traffic is one of the
most dangerous things you can do. Only those who are bereft of the common
sense they were born with, like Helen, would ever think otherwise.

Your life must certainly be boring if riding a bike anywhere is "one of
the most dangerous things" you do. Perhaps *you* are the one that
should pursue homemaking skills.

Regards,
Bob Hunt

Well, next spring, as soon as I get a bike I can ride, I'm going to put my
fate in the hands of suburban drivers for 3 miles of 2 lane road with a
posted limit of 45. (Ha ha on Chicago speed limits. Depending on where you
are and how fast the limit is, you have from 0 tolerance (Paletine, Ottawa)
to 15-20 over (tollways, usually). I've actually hit 90 going with the flow
of traffic in a 55 zone. . . . On the "45" stretch I've seen anything from
45 to 60.

Let Edward Dolan think what he will. It's called making do. . . . We
used to do a lot more of that, instead of running out to buy the newest,
brightest, shiniest gewgaw. But I'm not planning any 'tricks', just regular
riding.

Charles of Schaumburg

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Edward Dolan wrote in part:

Quoted message said:

The fact is that riding your bike, any kind of a bike, on a busy highway
without any shoulders and with lots of fast moving traffic is one of the
most dangerous things you can do. Only those who are bereft of the
common
sense they were born with, like Helen, would ever think otherwise.

Your life must certainly be boring if riding a bike anywhere is "one of
the most dangerous things" you do. Perhaps *you* are the one that
should pursue homemaking skills.

Regards,
Bob Hunt

Well, next spring, as soon as I get a bike I can ride, I'm going to put my
fate in the hands of suburban drivers for 3 miles of 2 lane road with a
posted limit of 45. (Ha ha on Chicago speed limits. Depending on where
you are and how fast the limit is, you have from 0 tolerance (Paletine,
Ottawa) to 15-20 over (tollways, usually). I've actually hit 90 going
with the flow of traffic in a 55 zone. . . . On the "45" stretch I've
seen anything from 45 to 60.

Let Edward Dolan think what he will. It's called making do. . . . We
used to do a lot more of that, instead of running out to buy the newest,
brightest, shiniest gewgaw. But I'm not planning any 'tricks', just
regular riding.

Charles of Schaumburg

I have been reading a daily newspaper since I was about 10 years old. I
especially like to read the offbeat kind of articles about how people die in
accidents. No one ever thinks they are going to have an accident which will
kill them, but it happens all the time.

By riding your bike in a high traffic corridor you are taking a risk. You
should really ask yourself if it is worth it. Are there no other
alternatives? If I were you, I would think long and hard before subjecting
myself to risk. Only the young and foolish do that - and very many of them
never get to be old and wise like me.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

Edward Dolan said:

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Besides which, I find that when I'm on my 'bent, I'm given far more room
and courtesy by motorists than when I'm on my 'normal' bike.

Plus, riding a bike is *not* inherently dangerous.

Cheers, helen s

Poor Helen is out to lunch as always. Just another reason why you do not
ever want to listen to a woman about anything that does not lie in her field
of purview. Her field of purview, for those of you who were born yesterday,
has to do with the kitchen, the nursery and the church. Helen needs to find
her nature as a woman and stop messing around with men doing manly things.

The fact is that riding your bike, any kind of a bike, on a busy highway
without any shoulders and with lots of fast moving traffic is one of the
most dangerous things you can do. Only those who are bereft of the common
sense they were born with, like Helen, would ever think otherwise. She also
thinks it is OK to ride your bike on icy roads even if it means you are
likely going to be wiped out by motor vehicle sliding right into you.

Jeez, don't you just hate uppity, aggressive women!

Not as much as I hate timid little bedwetting hideaway girlie men. Not even a
thousand riders a year get spattered by cars. It isn't even close to dangerous.

Wimp.

The only thing worse are

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passive, mousy men. Helen should model herself on Our Blessed Lady and not
on the [censored] of Babylon. Of course, if she is beautiful enough, like fabled
Helen of Troy, then she can be anyway she wants to be and men will fall all
over themselves trying to accommodate her. I give you the men of RBM and
ARBR as an example of the species.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

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Edward Dolan wrote in part:

> The fact is that riding your bike, any kind of a bike, on a busy
> highway
> without any shoulders and with lots of fast moving traffic is one of
> the
> most dangerous things you can do. Only those who are bereft of the
> common
> sense they were born with, like Helen, would ever think otherwise.

Your life must certainly be boring if riding a bike anywhere is "one of
the most dangerous things" you do. Perhaps *you* are the one that
should pursue homemaking skills.

Regards,
Bob Hunt

Well, next spring, as soon as I get a bike I can ride, I'm going to put
my fate in the hands of suburban drivers for 3 miles of 2 lane road with
a posted limit of 45. (Ha ha on Chicago speed limits. Depending on
where you are and how fast the limit is, you have from 0 tolerance
(Paletine, Ottawa) to 15-20 over (tollways, usually). I've actually hit
90 going with the flow of traffic in a 55 zone. . . . On the "45"
stretch I've seen anything from 45 to 60.

Let Edward Dolan think what he will. It's called making do. . . . We
used to do a lot more of that, instead of running out to buy the newest,
brightest, shiniest gewgaw. But I'm not planning any 'tricks', just
regular riding.

Charles of Schaumburg

I have been reading a daily newspaper since I was about 10 years old. I
especially like to read the offbeat kind of articles about how people die
in accidents. No one ever thinks they are going to have an accident which
will kill them, but it happens all the time.

By riding your bike in a high traffic corridor you are taking a risk. You
should really ask yourself if it is worth it. Are there no other
alternatives? If I were you, I would think long and hard before subjecting
myself to risk. Only the young and foolish do that - and very many of them
never get to be old and wise like me.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

I guess I could keep driving my car, but about the only place between here
and work that doesn't have cars on it going at least 50 is the median strip
of I-90, and sometimes not even then!

Charles of Schaumburg.

Sonny, I was BORN older than you. . . . .

n5hsr said:

Well, next spring, as soon as I get a bike I can ride, I'm going to put my
fate in the hands of suburban drivers for 3 miles of 2 lane road with a
posted limit of 45. (Ha ha on Chicago speed limits. Depending on where you
are and how fast the limit is, you have from 0 tolerance (Paletine, Ottawa)
to 15-20 over (tollways, usually). I've actually hit 90 going with the flow
of traffic in a 55 zone. . . . On the "45" stretch I've seen anything from
45 to 60.

Let Edward Dolan think what he will. It's called making do. . . . We
used to do a lot more of that, instead of running out to buy the newest,
brightest, shiniest gewgaw. But I'm not planning any 'tricks', just regular
riding.

Charles of Schaumburg

What stretch of road are you talking about? I ask because I notice
you're in Schaumburg and when someone in the Chicago area says "2 lane
road" they almost always mean two lanes in one direction and two lanes
in the opposite direction. There are some streets in Schaumburg I'd try
to avoid- especially those in the Woodfield area- but simply because of
the volume of traffic. Speed doesn't really enter into it much IMO.

Regards,
Bob Hunt