Tributary Of A Doping System

B. Lafferty said:

A votre sante!

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We know that there is doping in any sort of athletics that
involve significant sums of money.

What else could you pedantically inform us of? That people
cheat on their taxes? Speed on the freeway? Drive drunk?
That most panhandlers are substance abusers? That
Halliburton gets awarded no-bid contracts because their
former CEO is the vice-president of the federal government?

You post this stuff like it's a revelation or
something. Get over yourself. We know already. take
care and have a nice day,

K. Gringioni

So, tell us all where the data in the Le Journal du
Dimanche article has been published before. Please post a
list of the 126 authorised items that US Postal brought to
the 2000 Tour.

Thanks and have a great day!

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B. Lafferty said:

A votre sante!

procycling.comnews.aspxOpen ↗

Quoted message said:

We know that there is doping in any sort of athletics that
involve significant sums of money.

What else could you pedantically inform us of? That people
cheat on their taxes? Speed on the freeway? Drive drunk?
That most panhandlers are substance abusers? That
Halliburton gets awarded no-bid contracts because their
former CEO is the vice-president of the federal
government?

You post this stuff like it's a revelation or something.
Get over yourself. We know already. take care and have a
nice day,

K. Gringioni

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What else could you pedantically inform us of? That people
cheat on their taxes? Speed on the freeway? Drive drunk?
That most panhandlers are substance abusers? That
Halliburton gets awarded no-bid contracts because their
former CEO is the vice-president of the federal
government?

Nice posting Henry.

Just a note of disapproval re: Halliburton. Apparently it
was OK for them to have been awarded the very same sort of
contract by the Clinton Administration in Bosnia. So perhaps
you could explain to us what the VP had to do with it in
that case?

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So, tell us all where the data in the Le Journal du
Dimanche article has been published before. Please post a
list of the 126 authorised items that US Postal brought to
the 2000 Tour.

The first 20 are (ordered by use):

1. Heroin
2. Morphine
3. Methadone
4. Amphetamines
5. Crank
6. EDO
7. Codeine
8. Quaaludes
9. Marawania
10. Cocaine
11. Ephedrine
12. Ecstasy
13. Shrooms
14. PKP
15. PCP
16. White Angles
17. EBO
18. Hydrocodine
19. Hydroamphetaherion
20......................

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Thanks and have a great day!

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B. Lafferty said:

A votre sante!

procycling.comnews.aspxOpen ↗

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

We know that there is doping in any sort of athletics
that involve significant sums of money.

What else could you pedantically inform us of? That
people cheat on their taxes? Speed on the freeway? Drive
drunk? That most panhandlers are substance abusers? That
Halliburton gets awarded no-bid contracts because their
former CEO is the vice-president of the federal
government?

You post this stuff like it's a revelation or something.
Get over yourself. We know already. take care and have a
nice day,

K. Gringioni

Don't forget the Actovegan.

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So, tell us all where the data in the Le Journal du
Dimanche article has been published before. Please post
a list of the 126 authorised items

that

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US Postal brought to the 2000 Tour.

The first 20 are (ordered by use):

1. Heroin
2. Morphine
3. Methadone
4. Amphetamines
5. Crank
6. EDO
7. Codeine
8. Quaaludes
9. Marawania
10. Cocaine
11. Ephedrine
12. Ecstasy
13. Shrooms
14. PKP
15. PCP
16. White Angles
17. EBO
19. Hydrocodine
20. Hydroamphetaherion
21......................

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Thanks and have a great day!

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B. Lafferty wrote:
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We know that there is doping in any sort of athletics
that involve significant sums of money.

What else could you pedantically inform us of? That
people cheat on their taxes? Speed on the freeway?
Drive drunk? That most panhandlers are substance
abusers? That Halliburton gets awarded no-bid
contracts because their former CEO is the vice-
president of the federal government?

You post this stuff like it's a revelation or
something. Get over yourself. We know already. take
care and have a nice day,

K. Gringioni

Tom Kunich said:

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What else could you pedantically inform us of? That
people cheat on their taxes? Speed on the freeway? Drive
drunk? That most

panhandlers

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are substance abusers? That Halliburton gets awarded
no-bid

contracts

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because their former CEO is the vice-president of the
federal government?

Nice posting Henry.

Just a note of disapproval re: Halliburton. Apparently it
was OK for

them to

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have been awarded the very same sort of contract by the
Clinton Administration in Bosnia. So perhaps you could
explain to us what the

VP had

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to do with it in that case?

Dumbass -

Awards of no-bid contracts when there are multiple
vendors willing and capable of fulfilling them should be
forbidden in government. Cronyism and corruption are a
cancer on any society.

If this society strives to be as 'free' as it claims, we
should include free markets when it comes to awarding
taxpayer dollars to private companies. That means open
bidding on goods and services which are not proprietary. And
it doesn't matter what administration it is, Clinton or
Bush, Democrat or Republican.

In article <[email hidden]>,

Tom Kunich said:

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What else could you pedantically inform us of? That
people cheat on their taxes? Speed on the freeway? Drive
drunk? That most panhandlers are substance abusers? That
Halliburton gets awarded no-bid contracts because their
former CEO is the vice-president of the federal
government?

Nice posting Henry.

Just a note of disapproval re: Halliburton. Apparently it
was OK for them to have been awarded the very same sort of
contract by the Clinton Administration in Bosnia. So
perhaps you could explain to us what the VP had to do with
it in that case?

Halliburton subsidiary KB&R won a large contract to
supply the military in Bosnia (known as Logistics Civil
Augmentation Program, or LOGCAP) in a competitive bidding
situation. There were problems with overbilling and the
GAO was critical of the Army for not doing enough to
track the costs of those contracts. That criticism was
one of the reasons why KB&R lost a second big contract to
Dyncorp in '97.

The problem with what's happened this time around is that
Halliburton got huge (in the multi- billions) contracts
to do much more than supply the military, including
repair/maintenance of oil field equipment, putting out
fires and repair of other infrastructure items. These
were (or nearly) all no-bid contracts. The imbalance
toward Halliburton was bad enough that many other
companies that have been involved in that kind of work
began to complain - including Bechtel. Cheney still gets
paid by Halliburton (though it is deferred). He does not
seem to have severed himself from his former company as
much as it would seem prudent to be if one wanted to
avoid the appearance of impropriety.

From an article in Time (sorry for not linking, it's
subscription only):

"Cheney's relationship with Halliburton has been
nothing but trouble since he left the company in 2000.
Both he and the company say they have no ongoing
connections. But TIME has obtained an internal Pentagon
e-mail sent by an Army Corps of Engineers
official‹whose name was blacked out by the
Pentagon‹that raises questions about Cheney's arm's-
length policy toward his old employer. Dated March 5,
2003, the e-mail says "action" on a multibillion-dollar
Halliburton contract was "coordinated" with Cheney's
office. The e-mail says Douglas Feith, a high-ranking
Pentagon hawk, got the "authority to execute RIO," or
Restore Iraqi Oil, from his boss, who is Deputy Defense
Secretary Paul Wolfowitz. RIO is one of several large
contracts the U.S. awarded to Halliburton last year.

"The e-mail says Feith approved arrangements for the
contract "contingent on informing WH [White House]
tomorrow. We anticipate no issues since action has been
coordinated w VP's [Vice President's] office." Three days
later, the Army Corps of Engineers gave Halliburton the
contract, without seeking other bids."

--
tanx, Howard

So far, so good, so what?

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

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Tom Kunich said:

"Kurgan Gringioni" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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What else could you pedantically inform us of? That
people cheat on their taxes? Speed on the freeway?
Drive drunk? That most

panhandlers

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are substance abusers? That Halliburton gets awarded
no-bid

contracts

Quoted message said:

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because their former CEO is the vice-president of the
federal government?

Nice posting Henry.

Just a note of disapproval re: Halliburton. Apparently
it was OK for

them to

Quoted message said:

have been awarded the very same sort of contract by the
Clinton Administration in Bosnia. So perhaps you could
explain to us what the

VP had

Quoted message said:

to do with it in that case?

Dumbass -

Awards of no-bid contracts when there are multiple vendors
willing and capable of fulfilling them should be forbidden
in government. Cronyism and corruption are a cancer on any
society.

If this society strives to be as 'free' as it claims, we
should include free markets when it comes to awarding
taxpayer dollars to private companies. That means open
bidding on goods and services which are not proprietary.
And it doesn't matter what administration it is, Clinton
or Bush, Democrat or Republican.

It should also be noted that for some of the "no bid
contracts" that Haliburton recieved in Iraq, they didn't not
have the personnel and/expertise to perform the job and had
to sub the work out to companies that did...

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Tom Kunich said:

"Kurgan Gringioni" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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What else could you pedantically inform us of? That
people cheat on their taxes? Speed on the freeway?
Drive drunk? That most panhandlers are substance
abusers? That Halliburton gets awarded no-bid
contracts because their former CEO is the vice-
president of the federal government?

Nice posting Henry.

Just a note of disapproval re: Halliburton. Apparently
it was OK for them to have been awarded the very same
sort of contract by the Clinton Administration in
Bosnia. So perhaps you could explain to us what the VP
had to do with it in that case?

GAO was critical of the political [censored] [censored]
[censored].... GAO was critical of the political [censored]
[censored] [censored].... Halliburton subsidiary KB&R won a
large contract to supply the military in Bosnia (known as
Logistics Civil Augmentation Program, or LOGCAP) in a
competitive bidding situation. There were problems with
overbilling and the

What a GENIUS Bike Racing post Howard. Thanks. You are the
man.

-Ken

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