trials crank length/spoke count

It depends on the rider preference, There is KH 137mm, there's 140mm and
145mm. I prefer 145 mm because there is more stability but I guess 140
mm is a good size.

Still 36 spokes. Except Qu-ax s are runnig with 48 spokes.

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I would love to have a 32 hole hub.
I could use the DOB Magnesium rim with no problems than....

I prefer something between 140mm and 145mm for trials.

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In my opinion the 48 spokes is mandatory if you wanna feel safe on large
drops. E.I. 5 foot and on.

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For trials, the most favorited is probally 140ish and a bit shorter for
street. KH moments at 137mm are really popular.

But unicycles still use 36 spoke although some use 48. A lot of people
want unicycles to change to 32 so they can have more rim choices.

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The only reason the 137's are more popular is because the people that
buy those unis also do street. and longish cranks are better for
crankflips. I want moments 🙂 im ditching those dx cranks soon!

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I use 125 mm moments for street. Though i havent tried 137s much, i
think 125s are more flippety.

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peleschramm said:

I use 125 mm moments for street. Though i havent tried 137s much, i
think 125s are more flippety.

I admire your word ussage. flippety. i think i shall go do some
flippetys now.😎

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SHAY_CAM said:

I admire your word ussage. flippety. i think i shall go do some
flippetys now.😎

but you gotta ask yourself one question, does the dude abide?

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SHAY_CAM said:

The only reason the 137's are more popular is because the people that
buy those unis also do street. and longish cranks are better for
crankflips. I want moments 🙂 im ditching those dx cranks soon!

Wouldn't shorter cranks be better for flipping because they could spin
easier...

Although I'm not in much of a position to talk because I still can't
crankflip:p

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_Ground_Zero_ said:

Wouldn't shorter cranks be better for flipping because they could spin
easier...

Although I'm not in much of a position to talk because I still can't
crankflip:p

you would think but think of this. the reason trials cranks are long is
because when your on thick to thin you bumpy you need really good
leverage, therefore you needing long cranks. sooo when you jump into
the air and kick the cranks, there spining with velocity... and when
you try and land on those short little cranks you may just keep on
going, whereas longer cranks you have the longer leverage to spot them
from spinning on.

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unibikeling said:

but you gotta ask yourself one question, does the dude abide?

the dude totally abides and i liked a video of yours but i dont
remember which one all i remember is that staircase and your little
picture is one of that staircase so yeah, your cool😎 , im
cool😎 , we are all 😎 cus we ride uni's and only 😎
people ride unis cus there 😎 . word.

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I would never want anything longer than 140mm cranks for trials, after
that it gets hard to ride skinnies because you wobble.

I would love to have unis go to 32 hole. I don't really see any reason
for them to stay at 36.

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Yeah I do, but, I'm lazy you see... it's this disease and uh, I haven't
taken my medication?

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For years trials bikes were predominantly the 20/19" versions, and ran
shorter cranks 152-155. Mid nineties Monty went to 158s on its higher
end mod (20"😉 bikes. Late '90s Megamo (now out of business) introduced
170s on some models of mod bike. It took a few years, but for the most
part...now mod bikes use 170s. The reason, more leverage for a bigger
move.

Strictly considering trials (freestyle aside), does the same line of
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tim williamson said:

For years trials bikes were predominantly the 20/19" versions, and ran
shorter cranks 152-155. Mid nineties Monty went to 158s on its higher
end mod (20"😉 bikes. Late '90s Megamo (now out of business) introduced
170s on some models of mod bike. It took a few years, but for the most
part...now mod bikes use 170s. The reason, more leverage for a bigger
move.

Strictly considering trials (freestyle aside), does the same line of
thinking apply?

not really, at least in my opinion.

if all you are doing is hopping, than I would imagine that yes it would
be good, but a lot of trials is riding skinnies and doing lines that
require some rolling, and there is where you don't want really long
cranks.

If you have strong legs you can get enough leverage out of 137's/
140's, at least that's what I've found.

-Miles

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Yeah I do, but, I'm lazy you see... it's this disease and uh, I haven't
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mornish said:

not really, at least in my opinion.

if all you are doing is hopping, than I would imagine that yes it would
be good, but a lot of trials is riding skinnies and doing lines that
require some rolling, and there is where you don't want really long
cranks.

If you have strong legs you can get enough leverage out of 137's/
140's, at least that's what I've found.

-Miles

Thanks Miles,

So I guess that 145 is really the upper end of things. I was not
suggesting that UNIs might want 170, just what things are different and
what is considered the longest useable size. In biketrials, it was
really the power of the riders increasing over the years that pushed
the size up. I do understand that on bikes you have gearing to contend
with (that has gotten steeper over the years....hence the longer
cranks). So the longer the cranks (further from the spindle), the more
wobbly things get..... that is something I never thought
about....interesting.

Does anyone know how long UNI trials cranks were a few years ago? Or
have they always been about the same length?

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tim williamson said:

Does anyone know how long UNI trials cranks were a few years ago? Or
have they always been about the same length?

Years back almost everyone was riding 145mm because profile was the
only option for splined uni trials cranks and that's the shortest they
come. When Kris Holm produced his first trials hub/cranks in 2003, they
were 140mm. Now most trials unis come with 137/140mm cranks, the
exceptions I can think of are torker (125mm) and qu-ax (145mm).
I personally like 137/140 for trials and 125 for street/flat.

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tim williamson said:

Thanks Miles,

So I guess that 145 is really the upper end of things. I was not
suggesting that UNIs might want 170, just what things are different and
what is considered the longest useable size. In biketrials, it was
really the power of the riders increasing over the years that pushed
the size up. I do understand that on bikes you have gearing to contend
with (that has gotten steeper over the years....hence the longer
cranks). So the longer the cranks (further from the spindle), the more
wobbly things get..... that is something I never thought
about....interesting.

Does anyone know how long UNI trials cranks were a few years ago? Or
have they always been about the same length?

Well for a long time profiles where the only really strong splined
cranks you could get for unis, and they came in somewhere between 145 -
150 mms.

Lots of people rode them and did amazing things on them, but they have
always felt pretty long to me. I could probably get used to them, but I
would rather ride slightly shorter cranks.

edit: spencer beat me to it.

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another factor is wheel size. with a mod rim, your cranks can only be
so long, unless you intend on never turning while riding a unicycle. i
can't imagine going longer than my 145mm (i think someone found out
that they were really 150mm) profiles, because on some sharper turns i
do bump the pedals on the ground. very rarely has the force been
enough to knock me off my unicycle. it only happens once in a while,
and not just with turns, but sometimes from riding on steeper
surfaces.

as far as spoke options go, i'm no expert, but i would assume that it
has to do with the unusual forces and strains unicycles put on rims.

i for one, as a uni trials rider, am very skeptical about drilled rims,
let alone 32 spoke wheels. i will probably never ride a drilled rim,
ever! i just don't think those things are strong enough for what
trials unicycles are put through. someone correct me if i'm wrong.

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TrialsUni said:

another factor is wheel size. with a mod rim, your cranks can only be
so long, unless you intend on never turning while riding a unicycle. i
can't imagine going longer than my 145mm (i think someone found out
that they were really 150mm) profiles, because on some sharper turns i
do bump the pedals on the ground. very rarely has the force been
enough to knock me off my unicycle. it only happens once in a while,
and not just with turns, but sometimes from riding on steeper
surfaces.

as far as spoke options go, i'm no expert, but i would assume that it
has to do with the unusual forces and strains unicycles put on rims.

i for one, as a uni trials rider, am very skeptical about drilled rims,
let alone 32 spoke wheels. i will probably never ride a drilled rim,
ever! i just don't think those things are strong enough for what
trials unicycles are put through. someone correct me if i'm wrong.

Another point I had not thought about, in reference to crank length.
The spindle on a bike is higher than that of a UNI, certainly making a
difference when it comes to clearance and length..... good point.

Per the spokes. On a 19" wheel, laced taught with good quality
spokes.... the difference between 36 and 32 in strength is only
something that makes difference in the theoretical.

As for drilled rims. Most of the strength of a wheel is in the tension
of the spokes. A good wheel build will make even a truely crappy rim
appear to be strong.

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