Trial on a 24"?

pros: oyu can also do muni with it, you wedge your wheel in biger gaps

Cons: its heavyer so you can't jump as high, its harder to monuver
oround obsticles

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And Pro- its cool to do lines when you can't make a ledge then get on
your 19" and totally jump over it.

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Radical Reed said:

its heavyer so you can't jump as high

BULLSH*T!

Hop height has -very little- to do with the weight of your unicycle...
it's all about the technique!

That being said, you have 2-3" more wheel between you and the ground...
so you'll have to hop a little higher to get up onto things... but not
much.

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maestro8 said:

BULLSH*T!

That being said, you have 2-3" more wheel between you and the ground...
so you'll have to hop a little higher to get up onto things... but not
much.

Think about what you just said.

You might not be able to tuck as much on a SIF jump but besides for
that wheel size makes no difference for high jump if the weight isn’t
much of a factor.

I'm experimenting with serous 24" trials now because for winter riding
I’m tired of a tire that has no grip on snow and ice, I haven't done
enough riding on the to be 100% sure of what I am saying but a properly
setup 24" is as good or better for trials as a 20". Pedal grabs are
better because the hub is 2.5" higher off the ground so you don't have
to jump as high to reach the same ledge. I’d imagine that it would be
hard to ride skinnies because the larger wheel would wobble more. A
24” has a larger “sweet spot” because more tire is on the ground.

My older brother does all his trials on a KH24 with 170 cranks and
isn’t comfortable riding my KH20. He can do bigger trials lines then I
can and hasn’t been riding as long. I conclude that it’s whatever you
are familiar with. Widespread use of 20” trials is somewhat of a new
thing, when you look at early Kris Holm videos he is riding 24” and 26”
unicycles for trials, does he still? I read somewhere on the forum the
reasons he prefers a 24” over a 20” for trials.

What I’m realizing is that the big difference is crank length. I can't
do good trials on my brothers KH24 w/ 170's cranks (I tried for 4
months and couldn’t get comfortable) Now I just started riding a 24” w/
145's and it behaves more like my KH20 w/ 145’s then my brothers KH24
w/ 170s.

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UNIquelyCanadian said:

Think about what you just said.

You might not be able to tuck as much on a SIF jump but besides for
that wheel size makes no difference for high jump if the weight isn’t
much of a factor.

I'm experimenting with serous 24" trials now because for winter riding
I’m tired of a tire that has no grip on snow and ice, I haven't done
enough riding on the to be 100% sure of what I am saying but a properly
setup 24" is as good or better for trials as a 20". Pedal grabs are
better because the hub is 2.5" higher off the ground so you don't have
to jump as high to reach the same ledge. I’d imagine that it would be
hard to ride skinnies because the larger wheel would wobble more. A
24” has a larger “sweet spot” because more tire is on the ground.

My older brother does all his trials on a KH24 with 170 cranks and
isn’t comfortable riding my KH20. He can do bigger trials lines then I
can and hasn’t been riding as long. I conclude that it’s whatever you
are familiar with. Widespread use of 20” trials is somewhat of a new
thing, when you look at early Kris Holm videos he is riding 24” and 26”
unicycles for trials, does he still? I read somewhere on the forum the
reasons he prefers a 24” over a 20” for trials.

What I’m realizing is that the big difference is crank length. I can't
do good trials on my brothers KH24 w/ 170's cranks (I tried for 4
months and couldn’t get comfortable) Now I just started riding a 24” w/
145's and it behaves more like my KH20 w/ 145’s then my brothers KH24
w/ 170s.

I use a KH 24" Freeride for trial/distance/street/freestyle.
For pedalgrabs is a 24" easier because you don't have to hop so high as
on a 20".
I have 165s on it and it works well for me.

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Why isn't there an option for "I do both,"?

I ride a 19" for msot trials, but enjoy a 24" for trials almost as
much. I went a good 4 months riding my muni exclusively.

I don't think weight makes a huge difference for trials, but the larger
wheel is harder to maneuver, and reduces the amount you can tuck on
high hops. I often smash the wheel into my butt accidentally when i
first do trials on my 24" after using the 19".

The biggest problem I have with riding a 24" for trials is tire
pressure. I don't have the cash or inclination to have a devoted 24"
trials cycle, so I just have my muni and 19" (currently only my 19"😉. I
like a very high tire pressure for trials, and a relatively low one for
muni. This means my muni rarely has the optimal tire pressure for
trials riding.

I cannot pedalgrab as high on my muni as with my trials, both due to
reduced tuck and lower tire pressure, and possibly weight, but very
little. I can do ~46" on my trials (terrifying), and the best I've ever
done on the muni is ~43".

The only other problem I have with the muni is the higher hub height
makes it so the wheel leans more for sidehops. You need more lateral
momentum to carry you onto the ledge with a 24" wheel. Otherwise you
have to immediately jump off.

Kris rides a 19" for trials exclusively, but he's still really good on
a 24".

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i do trials on my Muni (24"😉 all the time! I like it b e t t e r t h
a n my 20"! I like it because i can go on a long muni ride then if i
see some sweet trials lines i can hit those up, then move on again down
the trail.

ITS AN ALL IN ONE MACHINE!

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UNIquelyCanadian said:

Think about what you just said.

What I’m realizing is that the big difference is crank length. I can't
do good trials on my brothers KH24 w/ 170's cranks (I tried for 4
months and couldn’t get comfortable) Now I just started riding a 24” w/
145's and it behaves more like my KH20 w/ 145’s then my brothers KH24
w/ 170s.

my trials machine is a KH 24" with a 3.0 gazz, & 140mm cranks. It feels
like a 20" when riding it but its way faster! The tire doesn't wobble
across skinnies like rail riding and stuff... Its sweet!

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Some times I feel like I can hop higher on my muni than my trials, its
just a mental thing though, since I am a little higher up on the 24"
when I look at benchs and stuff they look lower so mentally its alot
easier to hop up them.🙄

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Probailer2 said:

For pedalgrabs is a 24" easier because you don't have to hop so high as
on a 20".

True but when going to rubber from the pedalgrab, you have -as yet- to
cover the additional height, so then a 24" is more difficult.

Klaas Bil said:

Probailer2 said:

For pedalgrabs is a 24" easier because you don't have to hop so high

as

Quoted message said:

on a 20".

True but when going to rubber from the pedalgrab, you have -as yet- to
cover the additional height, so then a 24" is more difficult.

Yes that I noticed to when trying to go to rubber.

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Probailer2 said:

Yes that I noticed to when trying to go to rubber.

I did a crankgrab on a 24" and i found it only very slightly harder.

Mike

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I'm not really into trials, but in my experience, the main differences
between a 24" and 20" wheel are:

1. The 20" is snappier and easier to manoeuvre.
2. Since the 20" positions me closer to the ground, mounting and
falling off a zillion times when learning a new trick is more
convenient. (Having a 31" inseam may make this more noticeable to me
than someone with much longer legs.)
3. Obviously, the 24" has the potential to go faster.
4. The smaller wheel is easier for timing a rolling hop since each
half revolution is closer together.

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