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  1. I have a 5600(?) mountain bike. My son wanted me raise the handle
    bars and I couldn't. The shaft from the front forks go up only so far
    - and there's two donut spacers that go right on the shaft. While
    disassembling this I also noticed that shaft is loose and moves
    forward and aft like it's loose. There's a split washer that fits
    into the frame tube but that only goes so far - you'd think it'd go in
    further to stop the shaft from wiggling. So how to stop this shaft
    from wiggling? Am I missing something here? Should I take into the
    shop for a taller handle bar shaft? What a stupid design - not being
    able to tighten the stirring shaft to the forks! Any advice?

    Thanks
    JaKe
    Seattle

  2. jkdrummer said:

    I have a 5600(?) mountain bike. My son wanted me raise the handle
    bars and I couldn't. The shaft from the front forks go up only so far
    - and there's two donut spacers that go right on the shaft. While
    disassembling this I also noticed that shaft is loose and moves
    forward and aft like it's loose. There's a split washer that fits
    into the frame tube but that only goes so far - you'd think it'd go in
    further to stop the shaft from wiggling. So how to stop this shaft
    from wiggling? Am I missing something here? Should I take into the
    shop for a taller handle bar shaft? What a stupid design - not being
    able to tighten the stirring shaft to the forks! Any advice?

    Threadless stem and headset adjustment:

    http://parktool.com/repair/readhowto.asp?id=65

    You can get the bars up by either going to riser bars, getting a new
    stem, or using a stem raiser such as the Delta. I use the latter, and
    it's a cheap fast fix, if a little ugly.

  3. landotter said:
    jkdrummer said:

    I have a 5600(?) mountain bike. My son wanted me raise the handle
    bars and I couldn't. The shaft from the front forks go up only so far
    - and there's two donut spacers that go right on the shaft. While
    disassembling this I also noticed that shaft is loose and moves
    forward and aft like it's loose. There's a split washer that fits
    into the frame tube but that only goes so far - you'd think it'd go in
    further to stop the shaft from wiggling. So how to stop this shaft
    from wiggling? Am I missing something here? Should I take into the
    shop for a taller handle bar shaft? What a stupid design - not being
    able to tighten the stirring shaft to the forks! Any advice?

    Threadless stem and headset adjustment:

    http://parktool.com/repair/readhowto.asp?id=65

    You can get the bars up by either going to riser bars, getting a new
    stem, or using a stem raiser such as the Delta. I use the latter, and
    it's a cheap fast fix, if a little ugly.

    Wow - this looks like a job for a cycle shop. Any idea what this
    might cost?

    JaKe

  4. jkdrummer said:
    landotter said:

    On Sep 3, 3:00 pm, jkdrummer <[email hidden]> wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I have a 5600(?) mountain bike. My son wanted me raise the handle
    bars and I couldn't. The shaft from the front forks go up only so far
    - and there's two donut spacers that go right on the shaft. While
    disassembling this I also noticed that shaft is loose and moves
    forward and aft like it's loose. There's a split washer that fits
    into the frame tube but that only goes so far - you'd think it'd go in
    further to stop the shaft from wiggling. So how to stop this shaft
    from wiggling? Am I missing something here? Should I take into the
    shop for a taller handle bar shaft? What a stupid design - not being
    able to tighten the stirring shaft to the forks! Any advice?

    Quoted message said:

    Threadless stem and headset adjustment:

    Quoted message said:

    http://parktool.com/repair/readhowto.asp?id=65

    Quoted message said:

    You can get the bars up by either going to riser bars, getting a new
    stem, or using a stem raiser such as the Delta. I use the latter, and
    it's a cheap fast fix, if a little ugly.

    Wow - this looks like a job for a cycle shop. Any idea what this
    might cost?

    I dunno, some shops might charge you a twenty to tighten up a headset,
    my LBS would probably replace a stem on the spot and tighten the
    headset for free, if you bought the stem there. That's if it wasn't
    busy.

    It's really easy to tighten up a threadless stem. You just need to set
    the bearing preload with the hex bolt on top of the stem with the stem
    clamp loose, then, when the slop is taken out, you tighten the clamp.
    It's dead simple. You don't need to press in any cups or seat any
    crown races (both which are easy as well), just replace stem as needed
    to raise or put on a stem raiser. Five minutes--unless you go too far
    and need to put in longer cables.

  5. landotter said:
    jkdrummer said:

    On Sep 3, 1:41 pm, landotter <[email hidden]> wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    On Sep 3, 3:00 pm, jkdrummer <[email hidden]> wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > I have a 5600(?) mountain bike. My son wanted me raise the handle
    > bars and I couldn't. The shaft from the front forks go up only so far
    > - and there's two donut spacers that go right on the shaft. While
    > disassembling this I also noticed that shaft is loose and moves
    > forward and aft like it's loose. There's a split washer that fits
    > into the frame tube but that only goes so far - you'd think it'd go in
    > further to stop the shaft from wiggling. So how to stop this shaft
    > from wiggling? Am I missing something here? Should I take into the
    > shop for a taller handle bar shaft? What a stupid design - not being
    > able to tighten the stirring shaft to the forks! Any advice?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Threadless stem and headset adjustment:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    http://parktool.com/repair/readhowto.asp?id=65

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    You can get the bars up by either going to riser bars, getting a new
    stem, or using a stem raiser such as the Delta. I use the latter, and
    it's a cheap fast fix, if a little ugly.

    Quoted message said:

    Wow - this looks like a job for a cycle shop. Any idea what this
    might cost?

    I dunno, some shops might charge you a twenty to tighten up a headset,
    my LBS would probably replace a stem on the spot and tighten the
    headset for free, if you bought the stem there. That's if it wasn't
    busy.

    It's really easy to tighten up a threadless stem. You just need to set
    the bearing preload with the hex bolt on top of the stem with the stem
    clamp loose, then, when the slop is taken out, you tighten the clamp.
    It's dead simple. You don't need to press in any cups or seat any
    crown races (both which are easy as well), just replace stem as needed
    to raise or put on a stem raiser. Five minutes--unless you go too far
    and need to put in longer cables.

    Thanks for replies! I'll look into it and try myself as well.

    JaKe
    Seattle

  6. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I have a 5600(?) mountain bike. My son wanted me raise the handle
    bars and I couldn't. The shaft from the front forks go up only so far
    - and there's two donut spacers that go right on the shaft. While
    disassembling this I also noticed that shaft is loose and moves
    forward and aft like it's loose. There's a split washer that fits
    into the frame tube but that only goes so far - you'd think it'd go in
    further to stop the shaft from wiggling. So how to stop this shaft
    from wiggling? Am I missing something here? Should I take into the
    shop for a taller handle bar shaft? What a stupid design - not being
    able to tighten the stirring shaft to the forks! Any advice?

    Threadless stem and headset adjustment:

    http://parktool.com/repair/readhowto.asp?id=65

    You can get the bars up by either going to riser bars, getting a new
    stem, or using a stem raiser such as the Delta. I use the latter, and
    it's a cheap fast fix, if a little ugly.

    Wow - this looks like a job for a cycle shop. Any idea what this
    might cost?

    Cost will depend upon what direction you go. If you need a much-higher
    position for the handlebars, you'll have to replace brake & gear cables,
    because they won't be long enough. That can add up to a fair amount of
    expense in itself. But you might be able to get an inch or two of added
    height without changing cables. All that would require is a stem with more
    "rise" to it (the part going out from the bike would have a steeper angle
    than the stock one). A stem itself might cost $25 or so, and if you buy it
    from the shop you got the bike, it's quite possible they won't charge for
    installation. Otherwise it's a pretty simple job that someone might charge
    $5 for.

    --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
    www.ChainReactionBicycles.com

    "jkdrummer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    landotter said:
    jkdrummer said:

    I have a 5600(?) mountain bike. My son wanted me raise the handle
    bars and I couldn't. The shaft from the front forks go up only so far
    - and there's two donut spacers that go right on the shaft. While
    disassembling this I also noticed that shaft is loose and moves
    forward and aft like it's loose. There's a split washer that fits
    into the frame tube but that only goes so far - you'd think it'd go in
    further to stop the shaft from wiggling. So how to stop this shaft
    from wiggling? Am I missing something here? Should I take into the
    shop for a taller handle bar shaft? What a stupid design - not being
    able to tighten the stirring shaft to the forks! Any advice?

    Threadless stem and headset adjustment:

    http://parktool.com/repair/readhowto.asp?id=65

    You can get the bars up by either going to riser bars, getting a new
    stem, or using a stem raiser such as the Delta. I use the latter, and
    it's a cheap fast fix, if a little ugly.

    Wow - this looks like a job for a cycle shop. Any idea what this
    might cost?

    JaKe

  7. jkdrummer said:

    I have a 5600(?) mountain bike. My son wanted me raise the handle
    bars and I couldn't. The shaft from the front forks go up only so far
    - and there's two donut spacers that go right on the shaft. While
    disassembling this I also noticed that shaft is loose and moves
    forward and aft like it's loose. There's a split washer that fits
    into the frame tube but that only goes so far - you'd think it'd go in
    further to stop the shaft from wiggling. So how to stop this shaft
    from wiggling? Am I missing something here? Should I take into the
    shop for a taller handle bar shaft? What a stupid design - not being
    able to tighten the stirring shaft to the forks! Any advice?

    Thanks
    JaKe
    Seattle

    You've already gotten pretty good advice from other posters. If you do
    need shop advice, I can recommend a shop if you give me a general
    location in Seattle. I'm in the Central District, right near the I-90
    tunnel entrance.

    --
    Dane Buson - [email hidden]
    "We take your bags and send them in all directions."
    -In a Copenhagen airline ticket office

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