Trek 7500FX or 1000C?

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Subject: Trek 7500FX or 1000C?
From: [email hidden] (John)
Date: 8/2/2004 5:55 PM US Eastern Standard Time
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Greetings,

I am trying to pick up cycling as a substitue of running. I run
almost daily between 30 and 60 minutes. I think running stresses
the cariovascular system efficiently, producing enough stimuli in
relatively short periods -- I use a heart rate monitor and push
myself. I would like cycling to do the same and add variety.

I am not sure which bike will work better for me. I think I will
ride on pavement and ruled out mountain bikes. On the other hand,
I do not want to spend that much on a purebred road bike. Trek
offers a modified road bike 1000C (C for comfort) and a modified
mountain (hybrid) bike 7500FX (FX for fitness/exercise) at about
the same price. The 1000C comes with a dropped handle bar, Shimano
road bike components and narrower tires, and I suppose, is faster.
The 7500FX is equipped with a flat handle bar, mountain bike
components, and should be more immune to abuse.

Which do you think will be a better choice for aerobics under one
hour? What differentiates the 1000C and 7500FX?

Thank you.

-John

Whichever one you will USE will be the one to get. I am picking up a 7700 FX
this weekend, you might want to look at it also

(John) said:

Greetings,

I am trying to pick up cycling as a substitue of running. I run
almost daily between 30 and 60 minutes. I think running stresses
the cariovascular system efficiently, producing enough stimuli in
relatively short periods -- I use a heart rate monitor and push
myself. I would like cycling to do the same and add variety.

I am not sure which bike will work better for me. I think I will
ride on pavement and ruled out mountain bikes. On the other hand,
I do not want to spend that much on a purebred road bike. Trek
offers a modified road bike 1000C (C for comfort) and a modified
mountain (hybrid) bike 7500FX (FX for fitness/exercise) at about
the same price. The 1000C comes with a dropped handle bar, Shimano
road bike components and narrower tires, and I suppose, is faster.
The 7500FX is equipped with a flat handle bar, mountain bike
components, and should be more immune to abuse.

Which do you think will be a better choice for aerobics under one
hour? What differentiates the 1000C and 7500FX?

Thank you.

-John

I've ridden both and like them both. You might consider the next step up
and look at the 1200C. It's got the 9-speed tiagra componentry (vs the
8-speed sora). Depending on your area, you should be able to get it at
about $750. More than worth the extra $150 over the 1000C, IMO.

Replace the heavy and unnecessary suspension seat post and you've got a
nice bike, with mild h'bar to seat angle.

Be sure and try the best model of any type as well as the one you're
planning to buy, just so you have a good sample.

For your needs, you might even do well on the 7300FX, so I'd try that as
well as the 7700FX. My brother got the 7200FX and loves it. I have the
7500FX.

As far as aerobics, it would be difficult for a person used to running the
distances you do to get sufficient aerobic conditioning on a bike unless
you do a lot of hills - it may take you about 4-6 months to discover this,
but IMO, you'd be better off getting the 1200C (or the 1000C). Having drop
bars is pretty important when doing a fair amt of hill climbing, again, my
opinion.

Good luck.

-B

(Fx199) said:

Quoted message said:

Subject: Trek 7500FX or 1000C?
From: [email hidden] (John)
Date: 8/2/2004 5:55 PM US Eastern Standard Time
Message-id: <[email hidden]>

Greetings,

I am trying to pick up cycling as a substitue of running. I run
almost daily between 30 and 60 minutes. I think running stresses
the cariovascular system efficiently, producing enough stimuli in
relatively short periods -- I use a heart rate monitor and push
myself. I would like cycling to do the same and add variety.

I am not sure which bike will work better for me. I think I will
ride on pavement and ruled out mountain bikes. On the other hand,
I do not want to spend that much on a purebred road bike. Trek
offers a modified road bike 1000C (C for comfort) and a modified
mountain (hybrid) bike 7500FX (FX for fitness/exercise) at about
the same price. The 1000C comes with a dropped handle bar, Shimano
road bike components and narrower tires, and I suppose, is faster.
The 7500FX is equipped with a flat handle bar, mountain bike
components, and should be more immune to abuse.

Which do you think will be a better choice for aerobics under one
hour? What differentiates the 1000C and 7500FX?

Thank you.

-John

Whichever one you will USE will be the one to get. I am picking up a 7700 FX
this weekend, you might want to look at it also

How much are you planning to spend on the 7700?

Let us know what you think. Did you ride the 7500FX?

-B

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Quoted message said:

Whichever one you will USE will be the one to get. I am picking up a 7700 FX
this weekend, you might want to look at it also

How much are you planning to spend on the 7700?

Let us know what you think. Did you ride the 7500FX?

-B

I'm buying the bike for 950.00.
I rode it and liked the shifting. I don't know why they need the red indicator
blades though. I'm planning on getting a better road bike and letting this
replace my "Mountain bike with slicks"

[email hidden] (John) wrote in news:40ebb39b.0408021455.b997a13
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The 1000C comes with a dropped handle bar, Shimano
road bike components and narrower tires, and I suppose, is faster.
The 7500FX is equipped with a flat handle bar, mountain bike
components, and should be more immune to abuse.

For most people, a dropped handlebar style bike is more comfortable on longer
rides. It is also more efficient, so you can ride longer distances in the
same amount of time. If all your rides are under 2 hours, either bike will
be fine.

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Subject: Re: Trek 7500FX or 1000C?
From: Ken [email hidden]
Date: 8/2/2004 8:38 PM US Eastern Standard Time
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[email hidden] (John) wrote in news:40ebb39b.0408021455.b997a13
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The 1000C comes with a dropped handle bar, Shimano
road bike components and narrower tires, and I suppose, is faster.
The 7500FX is equipped with a flat handle bar, mountain bike
components, and should be more immune to abuse.

For most people, a dropped handlebar style bike is more comfortable on longer

rides. It is also more efficient, so you can ride longer distances in the
same amount of time. If all your rides are under 2 hours, either bike will
be fine.

Couldn't you lower the handlebars and use the bar ends on those rides? They
have Cane Creek bar ends. What about an aero clamp on bar?

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Couldn't you lower the handlebars and use the bar ends on those rides?
They have Cane Creek bar ends. What about an aero clamp on bar?

These are just hacks to make a hybrid more like a road bike. They are heavy
and expensive and still aren't as comfortable as a road bike. They are also
less safe, since your brake levers are difficult to reach from the bar ends
or aero bars. You also can't lower your center of gravity for more control
on downhills.

I've ridden high mileage on road bikes, and hybrid bikes, and mountain bikes
with road tires. Yes, conventional wisdom is that road bikes and road bars
are more comfortable.

Balderdash. Horses for courses.

For high mileage, in low traffic at the highest possible speed, nothing
beats a road bike with drop bars.

As soon as the traffic gets heavier than a road bike puts you in a
compromised position for seeing the road. As soon as road conditions get
bad the skinny tires become flat prone.

For heads down racing and club riding at the highest possible speed, a road
bike is required. For touring, moderate distances (100 miles or less) and
moderate speed, a mountain bike with road slicks or a hybrid bike (so long
as you add bar ends or some alternative for varying your position) is going
to be more comfortable, provide a better view of the road, provide less
worry about flats, and be less jarring. You won't go as fast, and the extra
weight will make hills a bit more tiring, but you won't be nearly as tired
from struggling to hold your head up in order to see where you are going,
and you'll be a lot more relaxed not worrying about flats.

I've ridden thousands of miles on road bikes, but for most riding I find
that I reach for a mountain bike with road slicks.

On Tue, 03 Aug 2004 04:29:05 GMT, "Sherry Katz" <[email hidden]>
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For touring, moderate distances (100 miles or less) and
moderate speed, a mountain bike with road slicks or a hybrid bike (so long
as you add bar ends or some alternative for varying your position) is going
to be more comfortable, provide a better view of the road, provide less
worry about flats, and be less jarring.

I can't get comfortable on flat bars for longer than a few
miles/minutes. Can't. My wrists get put in places they don't want to
be, and unless I'm going to be pulling UP on the bars a lot (pulling
the wheel over obstacles, say), I prefer having my wrists face each
other rather than the pavement.

Bar-ends are always too wide for me to be comfortable. then I can't
brake from them, either.

So I like drops. One of my bikes had moustache-like bars, and I liked
those for tooling around the city--I'd seriously consider going to a
moustache-bar setup again, someday.

And bizarrrely, I actually *like* to be hunched over, if only a bit,
when I'm sitting on a bike. Bolt-upright postures make me
uncomfortable and unsteady; once I get down and put a bit more weight
on my arms, I'm comfy.

As far as flats and jarring: I ride a Jamis Aurora, my tires are
700Cx 32mm and full pressure, and the whole thing rides just like I
want it: smooth, steady, just fast enough. Just right.

Bottom line: your handlebar choice--indeed, your whole choice of
bike-- is pretty personal.

-Luigi

John said:

I am not sure which bike will work better for me. I think I will
ride on pavement and ruled out mountain bikes. On the other hand,
I do not want to spend that much on a purebred road bike.

Why not? Road bikes are more comfortable, because the dropped
bars give you several hand positions, and more rewarding, because
you'll go faster for the same effort, and will be able to ride with groups
without being at a disadvantage.

IMHO all of these are important motivational factors for sticking with
riding. I don't know what motivates mountain bikers - negotiating
difficult terrain, presumably.

--
bpo gallery at http://www4.tpgi.com.au/users/mvw1/bpo

FWIW - exactly what I feel, also. I have both MTB and a road bike and I find
that on the road the road bike is better than MTB and I spend all my time on
the brake hoods and on the tops. I am not flexible enough for the drops
(yet) but I still prefer the road bike to the MTB for road riding. Sure the
MTB has comfy suspension but everything else on road bike is better suited
to the road. And, yes, really bad roads will make it hard for road bike. It
is not about speed btw even though road bike will be faster all other things
being equal.

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On Tue, 03 Aug 2004 04:29:05 GMT, "Sherry Katz" <[email hidden]>
wrote:

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For touring, moderate distances (100 miles or less) and
moderate speed, a mountain bike with road slicks or a hybrid bike (so

long

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as you add bar ends or some alternative for varying your position) is

going

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to be more comfortable, provide a better view of the road, provide less
worry about flats, and be less jarring.

I can't get comfortable on flat bars for longer than a few
miles/minutes. Can't. My wrists get put in places they don't want to
be, and unless I'm going to be pulling UP on the bars a lot (pulling
the wheel over obstacles, say), I prefer having my wrists face each
other rather than the pavement.

Bar-ends are always too wide for me to be comfortable. then I can't
brake from them, either.

So I like drops. One of my bikes had moustache-like bars, and I liked
those for tooling around the city--I'd seriously consider going to a
moustache-bar setup again, someday.

And bizarrrely, I actually *like* to be hunched over, if only a bit,
when I'm sitting on a bike. Bolt-upright postures make me
uncomfortable and unsteady; once I get down and put a bit more weight
on my arms, I'm comfy.

As far as flats and jarring: I ride a Jamis Aurora, my tires are
700Cx 32mm and full pressure, and the whole thing rides just like I
want it: smooth, steady, just fast enough. Just right.

Bottom line: your handlebar choice--indeed, your whole choice of
bike-- is pretty personal.

-Luigi

Yuri Budilov said:

FWIW - exactly what I feel, also. I have both MTB and a road bike and I find
that on the road the road bike is better than MTB and I spend all my time on
the brake hoods and on the tops. I am not flexible enough for the drops
(yet)

I spend almost no time in the tops. I end up going to the tops when
i'm tired and going uphill--otherwise, I'm on the hoods or just behind
them most of the time. The drops are for go-fast stretches,
headwinds, and descents.

-Luigi

On Tue, 3 Aug 2004 15:19:22 +0930, Michael Warner <[email hidden]>

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IMHO all of these are important motivational factors for sticking with
riding. I don't know what motivates mountain bikers - negotiating
difficult terrain, presumably.

Chicks dig the freeriders.

-Luigi

Luigi de Guzman said:

On Tue, 3 Aug 2004 15:19:22 +0930, Michael Warner <[email hidden]>

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IMHO all of these are important motivational factors for sticking with
riding. I don't know what motivates mountain bikers - negotiating
difficult terrain, presumably.

Chicks dig the freeriders.

laugh it up .. but there are a helluva lot more women riding mountain bikes
around here* than road bikes (even ajusted as a percentage for each group,
that still holds true. a higher percentage of mountain bikers are women
than road bikers).

not that i track such things, of course.

did i mention i just bought my first mountain bike?

* here is mountain bike crazy boise, idaho.
--
david reuteler
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I've ridden thousands of miles on road bikes, but for most riding I find
that I reach for a mountain bike with road slicks.

And I reach for a cyclocross frame with touring tires and drop bars
mounted at the same height as my saddle. Answers all of your
objections to road bikes used in urban settings, without the downside
of too-wide handlebars, too-heavy fork, and too-low gearing.

A touring bike works as well.

Nothing wrong with a MTB frame fitted out for road riding, especially
if you can get a rigid fork for it. But drop bars are still better, as
long as they're not mounted too low.

RichC