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  1. I am going to be buying my first 'NEW' bike since taking up riding
    again as an adult. I am going to be replacing an old Trek steel
    hardtail mtb ( boat anchor ). I pretty much have the idea in my head
    that I like the hybrid designs, they seem to be a pretty good mix of
    road / mtb bikes.

    There are two bike shops here in town, one just sells 'Giants' and the
    guy there was showing me the 'Cypress DX' he claims it's as good as the
    Trek 7300. They certainly do look similar. And most, if not all the
    components are the same. Or so he says. The other bike shop deals in
    Trek (I really like the Trek name), Raliegh and Cannondale and also Sun
    Recumbents. I have bought stuff from the seconds shop, and they don't
    have the bike I really in my size like in stock, but will special order
    it for me, at no extra charge. The Trek 7300 is the one that I really
    like, and they are willing to sell it to me for a little bit under MSRP
    which I think is $429.00 I can get it for $399.00

    The guy at the first shop also said that 'Giant' makes about 60% of
    Treks frames, most of the ones under about $600.00

    So my question is, if Giant does make the frames for Trek, should I
    just go with the Giant and save about $50.00??

    Ken

  2. Ken M said:

    The guy at the first shop also said that 'Giant' makes about 60% of
    Treks frames, most of the ones under about $600.00

    Never heard that one before. AFAIK Trek make all of their frames
    themselves, in the USA, being fairly unique in that (with on exception
    being some new carbon frame that they're not set up to do locally)

    Quoted message said:

    So my question is, if Giant does make the frames for Trek, should I
    just go with the Giant and save about $50.00??

    Go with the one that fits.

    Jasper

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    Ken M said:

    The guy at the first shop also said that 'Giant' makes about 60% of
    Treks frames, most of the ones under about $600.00

    My understanding is that all of Trek's hybrid bikes and most or all
    aluminum road bikes are made in Taiwan or mainland China. The prices
    on these go up to well over $1000. You should see a "made in Taiwan"
    or "made in China" sticker on the bike. In the past, they Asian Treks
    been made by Giant, though I don't know if that is still true.

    Giant makes fine bikes. Buy whatever fits you best. Some people don't
    like Giant road bikes because they don't come in as many sizes as
    most other brands (e.g., Trek), but the quality is fine.

  4. Quoted message said:

    I am going to be buying my first 'NEW' bike since taking up riding
    again as an adult. I am going to be replacing an old Trek steel
    hardtail mtb ( boat anchor ). I pretty much have the idea in my head
    that I like the hybrid designs, they seem to be a pretty good mix of
    road / mtb bikes.

    There are two bike shops here in town, one just sells 'Giants' and the
    guy there was showing me the 'Cypress DX' he claims it's as good as the
    Trek 7300. They certainly do look similar. And most, if not all the
    components are the same. Or so he says. The other bike shop deals in
    Trek (I really like the Trek name), Raliegh and Cannondale and also Sun
    Recumbents. I have bought stuff from the seconds shop, and they don't
    have the bike I really in my size like in stock, but will special order
    it for me, at no extra charge. The Trek 7300 is the one that I really
    like, and they are willing to sell it to me for a little bit under MSRP
    which I think is $429.00 I can get it for $399.00

    The Trek 7300 is a very nice machine; we sell quite a few of them. However,
    it's still possible the biggest difference between the Trek and Giant may be
    in the dealer that sells them. That dealer is responsible for assembling it
    properly, making sure it fits right, taking care of the 30-day check, and
    just generally doing what they can to make sure you really enjoy your bike.

    Quoted message said:


    The guy at the first shop also said that 'Giant' makes about 60% of
    Treks frames, most of the ones under about $600.00

    Giant is one of a couple of suppliers who make bikes for other vendors. When
    Trek first switched some of their lower-end production from Merida (another
    Taiwan company, but not big enough to handle the volume Trek required as
    they grew) to Giant, quality was non-existent. The lesson quickly learned
    was that Giant will build to whatever exact requirements someone asks, and
    if there were opportunities to save money and do something poorly (but
    "acceptable" because it wasn't something clearly specified), they would.
    Trek now has full-time employees in the overseas plants building their
    product, which has resulted in substantial improvements in quality. As Trek
    builds their higher-end product domestically, they know a lot about frames
    and wheels, and go to great lengths to make sure that their overseas vendors
    build to a very high standard. This can mean that a Trek coming out of a
    given plant might be of higher quality than the plant provides for its own
    name brand. Of course, it can also mean that the plant's own brand improves
    as well, as they learn from what Trek demands.

    Realistically though, it's an extremely competitive retail environment for
    both Trek and Giant, and they're both going to keep an eye on each other and
    make sure they're competitive. That's why, in many cases, it will be the
    dealer that makes the difference.

    Quoted message said:

    So my question is, if Giant does make the frames for Trek, should I
    just go with the Giant and save about $50.00??

    You're only saving money if the total package is equal. If there's something
    about the Trek you prefer, something that might make you want to ride it
    more (including a better dealer), then that's the better bike. And obviously
    the reverse is true as well- if the Giant dealer seems like the better place
    to bring your bike back to if something's not quite right, that might tip
    the scale in their direction.

    Quoted message said:


    Ken

    --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
    www.ChainReactionBicycles.com

  5. ** Go with the one that fits.**

    Well thats another story, niether one has a bike on the floor, or in
    stock that fits me, I am a small person, only 5 foot 6 inches, so I
    need the smallest (15 inch) Trek frame which they will order for me at
    no extra cost. The Giant dealer didn't say what size I need, but did
    say he didn't have a smaller one for me in stock.

    Ken

  6. ** The Trek 7300 is a very nice machine **

    Yes, it seems like the better of the bikes I have been looking at.

    ** Trek now has full-time employees in the overseas plants building
    their
    product, which has resulted in substantial improvements in quality**

    I wonder just how much thoses employees really care about what they are
    producing. But on the other hand the Trek LOOKS and FEELS, to me, to be
    the better quality bike trek vs Giant. But that might all be in my
    mind.

    ** That's why, in many cases, it will be the
    dealer that makes the difference. **

    Well I would rate both dealers here in town about the same, it's just
    too bad that my town didn't have 1 or 2 more bike shops to choose from.

    ** there's something
    about the Trek you prefer, something that might make you want to ride
    it
    more (including a better dealer), then that's the better bike **

    I think it is more in my mind than in the bikes. But I am leaning
    toward the Trek over the Giant. I like the Trek name, and feel better
    about supporting an American Company. I don't know who or what owns
    Giant.

    Ken

  7. While a new rider may tend to focus on which bike or which
    manufacturer, you really need to first identify the very best
    dealer/shop that you can find even if it means travelling a fair
    distance. While initially dealers may all look the same, you should
    inquire and get some recommendations from your local cycling club as to
    which dealer provides the best overall service and has a reputation for
    helping customers not just selling lots of bikes.

    As has been noted here what you are mainly looking for is a dealer that
    really does the best job of fitting you on a bike. This does NOT mean
    having you stand over the top tube and judging clearance. I would
    suggest that you search postings on "fit"...everything else is
    secondary to your enjoyment of cycling.

    While I live in a community that has some pretty good shops I travelled
    100 mile (one way) to go to a shop that had a stellar reputation on
    fitting. In the end it was well worth the effort.

  8. ** travelling a fair
    distance **

    Well I am car free so this presents a bit of a problem. I think I will
    most likely buy from one of the 2 LBS here in town.

    ** recommendations from your local cycling club **

    none around that I am aware of.

    ** suggest that you search postings on "fit"...everything else is
    secondary to your enjoyment of cycling. **

    Yeah well I have been riding again for about a year now, and have been
    a regular reader of this ng and rec.bicycles.misc so I have read quite
    a bit about sizing and fit, actually at the second LBS I went into the
    guy thought I might work for a bike shop when I started using words
    like geometry and drivetrain, and cassette and 'flat bar road bike'.

    Ken

  9. Ken M said:

    ** travelling a fair
    distance **

    Well I am car free so this presents a bit of a problem. I think I will
    most likely buy from one of the 2 LBS here in town.

    ** recommendations from your local cycling club **

    none around that I am aware of.

    ** suggest that you search postings on "fit"...everything else is
    secondary to your enjoyment of cycling. **

    Yeah well I have been riding again for about a year now, and have been
    a regular reader of this ng and rec.bicycles.misc so I have read quite
    a bit about sizing and fit, actually at the second LBS I went into the
    guy thought I might work for a bike shop when I started using words
    like geometry and drivetrain, and cassette and 'flat bar road bike'.

    Ken

    Ken

    Sounds like you are then on the right track...best of luck on your new
    ride.

    Pat Mc

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