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Transition from 20 to 29, My oppinion.

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  1. I heard, that going from a 20 to 29 takes a while to adjust, but when i
    got my 29 a few days ago, I hopped on it and started pedalling, I had no
    problems at all, except that i found I was putting a bit more weight on
    the pedals, but that went away fast. I actually found it strange riding
    the 20 after just riding the 29, I kept falling forward a bit because of
    the speed difference, I felt I should have been going faster.

    Another thing is that I had no problem at all learning how to free mount
    it. I think people have a hard time mounting bigger wheels because they
    used the static mount, which is tough on bigger wheels, but if you get
    good at doing a roll-back mount on a 20, when you get a bigger wheel,
    its really easy to mount them.

    And I know that all this depends on your learning speed, but actually I
    am pretty slow when it comes to unicycling, like it took me a week of
    constant pratice before I could go 5 feet.

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  2. I was the very same way, i freemounted on my first try and rode away
    instantly, i didnt find it very hard at all, but when i got back on a 20
    after riding a 28 for several monthes, i had my arms all flaily and
    weird looking, so i guess the same story.

    Chase

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  3. Heh, all I have in my stable right now is a 20" freestyle and a 36"
    coker. 😄 Makes for fun times!

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  4. I don't like doing the the rollback mount much on biggerwheels. The
    static mount is hop on and go, no fighting back and forth to get going
    forward.

    Static/jump mount is pretty much all I use with my coker.

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  5. On a big wheel (28 or Coker) I use a sort of push-stop mount. I push
    the uni forwards so that the back pedal rises, then as I put my weight
    on that pedal, it stops and I can use it as a step up. It's sort of
    somewhere between a static mount and a very half-hearted running
    mount.

    Big wheels are generally a little bit harder to mount and steer, but
    much much easier to ride than small wheels. A 28 is more like a big 24
    than a small Coker.

    A 20 and a 28 would be a versatile pair if you could only keep two unis.

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  6. Mikefule said:

    *On a big wheel (28 or Coker) I use a sort of push-stop mount. I push
    the uni forwards so that the back pedal rises, then as I put my weight
    on that pedal, it stops and I can use it as a step up. It's sort of
    somewhere between a static mount and a very half-hearted running
    mount.
    *

    That's the technique I use (0n my 29-er)- that little push really does
    make the static mount much easier; it's also very effective when
    mounting on an uphill slope.

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  7. The first mount I learned on my 20" was a roll back, but I realised
    after joining this forum that my seat was far too low, to then I raised
    it, could ride easier but not rollback mount anymore! I then learned
    the step over mount (side mount?) and use this all the time.

    So, when I got my 29" I used the step over mount. It works, but doesn't
    seem quite right, so I've just started trying the standard mount (which
    I've never used on my 20"😉 and it seems as though it'll do the trick.

    Mikefule suggested a 20" and 29" was a good combination of unis to own.
    I'm beginning to wonder about a 20" and a 26" though, as controlling the
    29" downhill is a tad hairy at times!

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  8. s7ev0 said:

    * I'm beginning to wonder about a 20" and a 26" though, as controlling
    the 29" downhill is a tad hairy at times! *

    Opinions may vary, but for me, the 26 is an inbetweeny size that is
    neither fish nor fowl.

    A 16 is too small for anything except people of small stature, or for
    novelty value.
    A 20 is ideal for trials or freestyle.
    A 24 is a bit more general purpose, but still nimble.
    A 24 with a very fat tyre is virtually a 26 anyway.
    A26...?
    A 28 is a nice road uni - and has a certain "credibility" with
    bicyclists because the wheel size is instantly recognisable as a road
    bike size.
    A 29 is a fat-tyred 28, and is good for barnstorming.
    A Coker is a bomber.

    So where's the 26 in that? It's heavier and less nimble than a 24, less
    of a road machine than the 28, less of a barnstormer than the 29.

    Better to approach the problem with fine tuning: choose appropriate
    cranks, a good handle, good pedals, good shoes, and develop technique.

    I ride the 28 on 110 mm cranksand find it is surprisingly good on hills
    as long as I don't go too fast. It's the difference between keeping
    control, and not losing control.

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  9. Mikefule said:

    *So where's the 26 in that? It's heavier and less nimble than a 24,
    less of a road machine than the 28, less of a barnstormer than the
    29.

    Better to approach the problem with fine tuning: choose appropriate
    cranks, a good handle, good pedals, good shoes, and develop
    technique.
    *

    The biggest thing you can do to fine tune is change the tyre. The 26"
    has the widest range of tyres, from fat ones that make it have loads of
    roll over and boingyness like a 24" but be slightly faster due to the
    significantly larger tyre, to 2.1" XC muni tyres which are more nimble
    on singletrack than a heavy 24x3, although less good at hops and drops,
    to narrow road tyres if you really like that sort of thing.

    Set up one way, there's very little difference between a 26 and a 29,
    set up the other way it's similar to a 24, but with the 26 you have a
    choice of all the setups in between too, whereas on the 24 and 29 you're
    really limited in tyre choice.

    I'd agree with mike that the most important thing is just to get used to
    the uni and get strength + control sorted. You can ride pretty much any
    road downhill on a coker with 110s if you practice enough.

    If I could only keep 2 unis they'd have to be the 26 and the coker. Muni
    of all kinds and big wheeled road riding. What more could you want.

    Joe

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  10. Mikefule said:

    *A 16 is too small for anything except people of small stature, or for
    novelty value.
    A 20 is ideal for trials or freestyle.
    A 24 is a bit more general purpose, but still nimble.
    A 24 with a very fat tyre is virtually a 26 anyway.
    A26...?
    A 28 is a nice road uni - and has a certain "credibility" with
    bicyclists because the wheel size is instantly recognisable as a road
    bike size.
    A 29 is a fat-tyred 28, and is good for barnstorming.
    A Coker is a bomber.
    *

    Damn! I -do- need the whole set!😄

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  11. Mikefule said:

    *On a big wheel (28 or Coker) I use a sort of push-stop mount. I push
    the uni forwards so that the back pedal rises, then as I put my weight
    on that pedal, it stops and I can use it as a step up. It's sort of
    somewhere between a static mount and a very half-hearted running
    mount.
    *

    doing the same thing except that, at one moment, I briefly grab the
    tyre to stop it going backwards when I step on the pedal. Moreover this
    helps me to be in a more forward position since those wheels tend to
    have inertia to overcome.

    I may be I should get rid of this tyre-grab and go on top with a more
    static position? (and little hops to secure the way I seat?).

    Precision : I only use long cranks (170 on Coker, 150 on 28)
    I constanly UPDs with shorter cranks.

    bear

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  12. Mikefule said:

    * A 29 is a fat-tyred 28, and is good for barnstorming.*

    What does barnstorming mean?

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  13. From a bike to 29-ner.....😄

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  14. Thats a funny set up, though I'll probably try it. I remember after my
    first coker ride at a friends house. They lent me a 24 to ride home
    since I had been droppen off at his house. It took me four tries to
    free mount it after having ridden a coker:eek: .

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  15. digigal1 said:

    *What does barnstorming mean? *

    At one time, small travelling companies of actors and entertainers would
    travel in rural districts, putting on performances in barns. These
    would attract the local rural population, and be the most exciting thing
    to happen in the area from one year to the next. This type of
    performance was known as "barnstorming", with "storming" coming from the
    military word for a sudden attack on a building. (Storming a fortress,
    for example.)

    In the early days of aviation, some aviators used to fly around the
    United States, putting on displays of wing walking and simple
    aerobatics. This was in small canvas and timber biplanes. As part of
    their pre-show publicity, they would tend to do things like flying low
    over ranches, startling the inhabitants, and creating interest.
    (Remember, the first powered flight was only 102 years ago. Until the
    1st World War (1914-18) aeroplanes were very rare indeed.)

    This activity of buzzing low over ranches and barns, then putting on a
    display became known as barnstorming.

    Barnstorming is now used as an adjective to describe any rabble rousing
    and exciting performance - often an end of conference speech by a
    political leader.

    I used barnstorming to describe Coker riding as an extension of the idea
    of an aviator blasting past an unsuspecting populace, causing great
    excitement.

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