Trail etiquette???

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Mike Vandeman said:

In my experience, yes, 100% of mountain bikers lie. CONSTANTLY.

All generalizations are untrue, probably including this one.

Frank

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Mike Vandeman said:

In my experience, yes, 100% of mountain bikers lie. CONSTANTLY.

Sorry mikey boy. You are the lier and the above statement proves that beyond any doubt. I
believe most sane people would agree with me that it is not realistically possible for 100% of a
group of people to constantly lie even if they tried to.

Everything I say is a lie.

That trick only works on Star Trek. ;^)

Mike

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Mike Vandeman said:

In my experience, yes, 100% of mountain bikers lie. CONSTANTLY.

Sorry mikey boy. You are the lier and the above statement proves that beyond any doubt. I
believe most sane people would agree with me that it is not realistically possible for 100% of a
group of people to constantly lie even if they tried to.

Everything I say is a lie.

"Everything Harry tells you is a lie. Remember that. Everything Harry tells you is a lie!"

"Now listen to this carefully, Norman. I am lying."

C.Q.C.

"Logic is a little tweeting bird, chirping in a meadow. Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers which
smell bad."

Frank Looper said:

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Mike Vandeman said:

In my experience, yes, 100% of mountain bikers lie. CONSTANTLY.

All generalizations are untrue, probably including this one.

Frank

Mikey is the source of all truth, so disagreeing with him means you are lying or wrong.

Even when presented with reality, he persists in his beliefs. No new information can enter
his world.

The more opposition and attention, the happier he is, because he can be a martyr and the center of
attention. Accomplishing anything is irrelevant.

Many psychoses have similar symptoms.

Happy trails, Gary (net.yogi.bear)
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You expect MOUNTAIN BIKERS to obey the law?????????????? ROTFL

Arrest that monkey!!!

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You're doing too well on your own.

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"Mikey spewed:

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You expect MOUNTAIN BIKERS to obey the law?????????????? ROTFL

.

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Wow! An honest-to-goodness unsolicited Mikey V response to one of my original posts. I've only
been posting here for a few months, so it

feels

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almost like a right of passage. Its one thing to feed the troll, but

its

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another to actually draw him out of his delusional cave and have him

comment

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on a real conversational thread. I'm so proud!

BTW Mikey -- I am a mountain biker and I do obey the law (okay....there

have

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been a few speeding tickets over the years.) Are you now going to call

me

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a

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liar? Please!!! Then I'll really feel like I'm part of the club! I

figure

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I can't really call myself a true citizen of AM-B until my character has been denigrated by the
resident whack-job.

Tom

Hehehe...wait until you've been made "An example of...".

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or a "Death Threat" like this one...hehehehe...it still cracks me up!

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<takes bow> ',;~}~

Heheheheh, that still tickles me too MD - thanks for the reminder!

Shaun aRe

That is a lie. I know because I originally told that very lie before. Before it was a popular lie.

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"Brett Jaffee" <[email hidden]> wrote

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Mike Vandeman wrote:
> In my experience, yes, 100% of mountain bikers lie. CONSTANTLY.

Sorry mikey boy. You are the lier and the above statement proves that beyond any doubt. I
believe most sane people would agree with me that it is not realistically possible for 100% of
a group of people to constantly lie even if they tried to.

Everything I say is a lie.

"Everything Harry tells you is a lie. Remember that. Everything Harry

tells

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you is a lie!"

"Now listen to this carefully, Norman. I am lying."

C.Q.C.

"Logic is a little tweeting bird, chirping in a meadow. Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers which
smell bad."

Mike Vandi****, you are ****ing [censored]. No one here gives a rats ass what you have to say. Shut the **** up.

There, I feel better now.
Have a wondrful day!
Now I think I'll go enjoy some some mountain biking where I can enjoy the wonderful West Virginia wildlife.

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.Mike Vandi****, you are ****ing [censored]. No one here gives a rats ass .what you have to say. Shut
the **** up. . .There, I feel better now. Have a wondrful day! Now I think I'll go .enjoy some some
mountain biking where I can enjoy the wonderful West .Virginia wildlife.

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The local city park has about 7 miles of dedicated mountain bike trail. Nothing spectacular, but
fun to ride and only ten minutes from my house. The trails consists of three loops of singletrack
linked by a fire road. All three loops are marked with entrances from the fire road, and the exits
back onto the road are posted with good-sized "Do Not Enter" signs. The intent is obviously to
have one way traffic on the singletrack portions of the trail.

Over the past few weeks, I've passed over a dozen riders coming at me from the wrong direction.
The first few surprised the hell out of me, then I started commenting on the way by, something
like, "Hey, this is a one-way loop," or "wrong direction," or "travel goes this way." Usually I
just got a blank stare in return. On today's ride, I just rode by without commenting as it seems
I'm fighting a losing battle.

I must say that most have has politely pulled off to the side to let me pass, a sort of tacit
acknowledgement that I had the right of way. None the less, it still irks me a bit. My biggest
beef is that I'm not expecting someone to be coming at me with a closure rate of 20+mph on a
skinny forest track. My assumption on a one way trail is that there wont't be any riders coming at
me. Everytime it happens it gives me a bit of a start, and several times I've been forced to brake
to make sure there would be clearance to pass. Not that big a deal, its just that I'm not
expecting other riders when coming around corners or pointing downhill.

Personally I could care less if the trails are uni- or bidirectional, I'm sure any safety benefits
are marginal as long as everyone knows what to expect. That said, as long as they are marked one
way I assume people should adhere to them or else constitue a hazard for those who expect the
trail to be clear of oncoming riders. Is riding backwards on a one way trail an etiquitte breach,
a safety issue, an annoynace, or all three? Or am I just too uptight? Intersted to hear other's
opinions and related experiences.

Tom

Trying to teach a mountain biker "etiquette" is like trying to teach a pig to sing. It's a waste of
time and it only annoys the pig.

Terri Alvillar

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Trying to teach a mountain biker "etiquette" is like trying to teach a pig to sing. It's a waste
of time and it only annoys the pig.

Therefore I propose we all pitch in and buy Terri a karaoke machine for Fatmas.

Bill "the Beatles' 'I'm A Loser' apt first choice" S.

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Trying to teach a mountain biker "etiquette" is like trying to teach a pig to sing. It's a waste
of time and it only annoys the pig.

Terri Alvillar

Learned to sing yet mikey?
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On 8 Dec 2003 08:09:24 -0800, [email hidden] (Terri Alvillar) wrote:

."tcmedara" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<m0wyb.26059$yM6.1163@lakeread06>...
.> The local city park has about 7 miles of dedicated mountain bike trail. .> Nothing spectacular,
but fun to ride and only ten minutes from my house. .> The trails consists of three loops of
singletrack linked by a fire road. .> All three loops are marked with entrances from the fire road,
and the exits .> back onto the road are posted with good-sized "Do Not Enter" signs. The .> intent
is obviously to have one way traffic on the singletrack portions of .> the trail. .> .> Over the
past few weeks, I've passed over a dozen riders coming at me from .> the wrong direction. The first
few surprised the hell out of me, then I .> started commenting on the way by, something like, "Hey,
this is a one-way .> loop," or "wrong direction," or "travel goes this way." Usually I just got .> a
blank stare in return. On today's ride, I just rode by without commenting .> as it seems I'm
fighting a losing battle. .> .> I must say that most have has politely pulled off to the side to let
me .> pass, a sort of tacit acknowledgement that I had the right of way. None the .> less, it still
irks me a bit. My biggest beef is that I'm not expecting .> someone to be coming at me with a
closure rate of 20+mph on a skinny forest .> track. My assumption on a one way trail is that there
wont't be any riders .> coming at me. Everytime it happens it gives me a bit of a start, and .>
several times I've been forced to brake to make sure there would be .> clearance to pass. Not that
big a deal, its just that I'm not expecting .> other riders when coming around corners or pointing
downhill. .> .> Personally I could care less if the trails are uni- or bidirectional, I'm .> sure
any safety benefits are marginal as long as everyone knows what to .> expect. That said, as long as
they are marked one way I assume people .> should adhere to them or else constitue a hazard for
those who expect the .> trail to be clear of oncoming riders. Is riding backwards on a one way .>
trail an etiquitte breach, a safety issue, an annoynace, or all three? Or .> am I just too uptight?
Intersted to hear other's opinions and related .> experiences. .> .> Tom . . .Trying to teach a
mountain biker "etiquette" is like trying to teach a .pig to sing. It's a waste of time and it only
annoys the pig. . .Terri Alvillar

I think you just went over their heads.
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