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  1. It seems the BLM is putting our tax dollars to good work. I and about 30
    (the AZ style part) other volunteers helped cut in some 800-1000 feet of new
    trail near Black Canyon City. In the plans are some 100 miles of trails
    from what I heard. Eventually this single track (no motors allowed) will
    run from the edge of the Prescott National Forest boundary (BLM is working
    with FS to continue trail through) South to the Carefree Hwy. This will
    make for one killer epic when finished. BLM is also hiring trail crews to
    do some of the heavier work.

    A lot of pics were taken today and when I find out where they're at I'll
    post a link. It was a beautiful day and made special by all the hard work
    from everybody (including the horse folks) :-).

    Gary

  2. GeeDubb said:

    It seems the BLM is putting our tax dollars to good work. I and about
    30 (the AZ style part) other volunteers helped cut in some 800-1000 feet
    of new trail near Black Canyon City. In the plans are some 100 miles of
    trails from what I heard. Eventually this single track (no motors
    allowed) will run from the edge of the Prescott National Forest boundary
    (BLM is working with FS to continue trail through) South to the Carefree
    Hwy. This will make for one killer epic when finished. BLM is also
    hiring trail crews to do some of the heavier work.

    Sounds cool. Hopefully whoever they hire won't do this:

    http://homepage.mac.com/getosx/sequoias/sanitized.jpg

    Greg
    --
    "All my time I spent in heaven
    Revelries of dance and wine
    Waking to the sound of laughter
    Up I'd rise and kiss the sky" - The Mekons

  3. G.T. said:
    GeeDubb said:

    It seems the BLM is putting our tax dollars to good work. I and about
    30 (the AZ style part) other volunteers helped cut in some 800-1000
    feet of new trail near Black Canyon City. In the plans are some 100
    miles of trails from what I heard. Eventually this single track (no
    motors allowed) will run from the edge of the Prescott National Forest
    boundary (BLM is working with FS to continue trail through) South to
    the Carefree Hwy. This will make for one killer epic when finished.
    BLM is also hiring trail crews to do some of the heavier work.

    Sounds cool. Hopefully whoever they hire won't do this:

    http://homepage.mac.com/getosx/sequoias/sanitized.jpg

    Greg

    That is one sad trail.
    --
    Slack

  4. Slack said:
    G.T. said:
    GeeDubb said:

    It seems the BLM is putting our tax dollars to good work. I and
    about 30 (the AZ style part) other volunteers helped cut in some
    800-1000 feet of new trail near Black Canyon City. In the plans are
    some 100 miles of trails from what I heard. Eventually this single
    track (no motors allowed) will run from the edge of the Prescott
    National Forest boundary (BLM is working with FS to continue trail
    through) South to the Carefree Hwy. This will make for one killer
    epic when finished. BLM is also hiring trail crews to do some of the
    heavier work.

    Sounds cool. Hopefully whoever they hire won't do this:

    http://homepage.mac.com/getosx/sequoias/sanitized.jpg

    Greg

    That is one sad trail.
    --Slack

    Looks like the new trails JeffCo builds with their tractor. Their
    response... We can build five miles of trail in a week. My response...
    You mean you can build a five mile Nascar course in a week.

    --
    o-o-o-o Ride-A-Lot o-o-o-o
    www.schnauzers.ws

  5. "Ride-A-Lot" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Slack said:
    G.T. said:

    GeeDubb wrote:
    > It seems the BLM is putting our tax dollars to good work. I and about
    > 30 (the AZ style part) other volunteers helped cut in some 800-1000
    > feet of new trail near Black Canyon City. In the plans are some 100
    > miles of trails from what I heard. Eventually this single track (no
    > motors allowed) will run from the edge of the Prescott National Forest
    > boundary (BLM is working with FS to continue trail through) South to
    > the Carefree Hwy. This will make for one killer epic when finished.
    > BLM is also hiring trail crews to do some of the heavier work.
    >

    Sounds cool. Hopefully whoever they hire won't do this:

    http://homepage.mac.com/getosx/sequoias/sanitized.jpg

    Greg

    That is one sad trail.
    --Slack

    Looks like the new trails JeffCo builds with their tractor. Their
    response... We can build five miles of trail in a week. My response...
    You mean you can build a five mile Nascar course in a week.


    funny thing about the "pan loop" section of the BCT is that you drop into
    most, if not all, of the washes coming out of them with a sharp left turn.

    Their tractor would have come in handy on a few sections I hand picked for
    several hours....dig a hole, fill it in...dig some more, fill it in and it
    still needed to be cut back another 2-3' to make it bullet proof.

    I'm hoping somebody posts the pix soon but here's a link to the trail
    coalition site www.bctc.com

    Gary

  6. "GeeDubb" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    It seems the BLM is putting our tax dollars to good work. I and about 30
    (the AZ style part) other volunteers helped cut in some 800-1000 feet of
    new trail near Black Canyon City. In the plans are some 100 miles of
    trails from what I heard. Eventually this single track (no motors
    allowed) will run from the edge of the Prescott National Forest boundary
    (BLM is working with FS to continue trail through) South to the Carefree
    Hwy. This will make for one killer epic when finished. BLM is also
    hiring trail crews to do some of the heavier work.

    A lot of pics were taken today and when I find out where they're at I'll
    post a link. It was a beautiful day and made special by all the hard work
    from everybody (including the horse folks) :-).

    Gary

    Horse folk can be a good thing, especially when they show up with Perchorons
    wearing gravel bags.

    One of the best things to ever happen, at least for trail users around here,
    is for hikers, horse people and bikers to be on the same work crews.

    ~P.

  7. "small change" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "GeeDubb" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    It seems the BLM is putting our tax dollars to good work. I and about 30
    (the AZ style part) other volunteers helped cut in some 800-1000 feet of
    new trail near Black Canyon City. In the plans are some 100 miles of
    trails from what I heard. Eventually this single track (no motors
    allowed) will run from the edge of the Prescott National Forest boundary
    (BLM is working with FS to continue trail through) South to the Carefree
    Hwy. This will make for one killer epic when finished. BLM is also
    hiring trail crews to do some of the heavier work.

    A lot of pics were taken today and when I find out where they're at I'll
    post a link. It was a beautiful day and made special by all the hard
    work from everybody (including the horse folks) :-).

    Gary

    Horse folk can be a good thing, especially when they show up with
    Perchorons wearing gravel bags.

    One of the best things to ever happen, at least for trail users around
    here, is for hikers, horse people and bikers to be on the same work crews.

    ~P.


    It was especially nice have the pack horse carry in the gas powered jack
    hammer and most of the short handle tools. Unfortunately there's a lot of
    this trail that is soft and will be easily damaged by a lot of horse traffic
    (unlikely scenario I hope). Further investigation (reading MTBR) put about
    half the workers at mtb'rs and the other half hikers and horse persons
    (about 4 or 5 BLM regulars/volunteers)

    I tried to ride today....lasted about 45 minutes before my quads and back
    said FU.......rest rest and more rest today.

    Gary

  8. On Sun, 7 Jan 2007 08:24:03 -0800, small change wrote
    (in article <[email hidden]>😉:

    Quoted message said:


    "GeeDubb" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    It seems the BLM is putting our tax dollars to good work. I and about 30
    (the AZ style part) other volunteers helped cut in some 800-1000 feet of
    new trail near Black Canyon City. In the plans are some 100 miles of
    trails from what I heard. Eventually this single track (no motors
    allowed) will run from the edge of the Prescott National Forest boundary
    (BLM is working with FS to continue trail through) South to the Carefree
    Hwy. This will make for one killer epic when finished. BLM is also
    hiring trail crews to do some of the heavier work.

    A lot of pics were taken today and when I find out where they're at I'll
    post a link. It was a beautiful day and made special by all the hard work
    from everybody (including the horse folks) :-).

    Gary

    Horse folk can be a good thing, especially when they show up with Perchorons
    wearing gravel bags.

    One of the best things to ever happen, at least for trail users around here,
    is for hikers, horse people and bikers to be on the same work crews.

    Quoted message said:

    P.

    It only makes sense for all the trail user groups to combine their efforts to
    create more trails instead of wasting time by fighting with each other . We
    need to realize that we have common goals; protecting public lands, more
    trails.

    Paul

  9. GeeDubb said:

    It seems the BLM is putting our tax dollars to good work. I and about 30
    (the AZ style part) other volunteers helped cut in some 800-1000 feet of new
    trail near Black Canyon City. In the plans are some 100 miles of trails
    from what I heard. Eventually this single track (no motors allowed) will
    run from the edge of the Prescott National Forest boundary (BLM is working
    with FS to continue trail through) South to the Carefree Hwy. This will
    make for one killer epic when finished. BLM is also hiring trail crews to
    do some of the heavier work.

    A lot of pics were taken today and when I find out where they're at I'll
    post a link. It was a beautiful day and made special by all the hard work
    from everybody (including the horse folks) :-).

    Gary

    cool, looking forward to seeing the pics.

    was it muddy out there?, (with some of the recent rain we've had).

  10. "daddy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    GeeDubb said:

    It seems the BLM is putting our tax dollars to good work. I and about 30
    (the AZ style part) other volunteers helped cut in some 800-1000 feet of
    new
    trail near Black Canyon City. In the plans are some 100 miles of trails
    from what I heard. Eventually this single track (no motors allowed) will
    run from the edge of the Prescott National Forest boundary (BLM is
    working
    with FS to continue trail through) South to the Carefree Hwy. This will
    make for one killer epic when finished. BLM is also hiring trail crews
    to
    do some of the heavier work.

    A lot of pics were taken today and when I find out where they're at I'll
    post a link. It was a beautiful day and made special by all the hard
    work
    from everybody (including the horse folks) :-).

    Gary

    cool, looking forward to seeing the pics.

    was it muddy out there?, (with some of the recent rain we've had).

    No mud, very dry digging but the river had water flowing. Next trail day is
    2-10-07,
    mark it on your calendar ;-). There's a not so good shot posted in MTBR
    http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?p=2609361#poststop if you're a member
    you can view it, if not it's not worthy of signing up.

    Gary

  11. GeeDubb said:


    No mud, very dry digging but the river had water flowing. Next trail
    day is 2-10-07,
    mark it on your calendar ;-). There's a not so good shot posted in MTBR
    http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?p=2609361#poststop if you're a
    member you can view it, if not it's not worthy of signing up.

    Gary

    Wow! It's awfully green out there right now. Maybe I should use some
    FF miles and pay you a visit.

    --
    o-o-o-o Ride-A-Lot o-o-o-o
    www.schnauzers.ws

  12. "Ride-A-Lot" <mitchell@[NOSPAM]schnauzers.ws> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    GeeDubb said:


    No mud, very dry digging but the river had water flowing. Next trail day
    is 2-10-07,
    mark it on your calendar ;-). There's a not so good shot posted in MTBR
    http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?p=2609361#poststop if you're a
    member you can view it, if not it's not worthy of signing up.

    Gary

    Wow! It's awfully green out there right now. Maybe I should use some FF
    miles and pay you a visit.


    come on down. Not so green in Phoenix but 40 minutes North of town seems to
    be somewhat wetter. Rumor has it that several riders better than I will be
    visiting the area next weekend.....

    Gary

  13. GeeDubb said:


    "Ride-A-Lot" <mitchell@[NOSPAM]schnauzers.ws> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    GeeDubb said:


    No mud, very dry digging but the river had water flowing. Next trail
    day is 2-10-07,
    mark it on your calendar ;-). There's a not so good shot posted in
    MTBR http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?p=2609361#poststop if
    you're a member you can view it, if not it's not worthy of signing up.

    Gary

    Wow! It's awfully green out there right now. Maybe I should use some
    FF miles and pay you a visit.


    come on down. Not so green in Phoenix but 40 minutes North of town
    seems to be somewhat wetter. Rumor has it that several riders better
    than I will be visiting the area next weekend.....

    Gary

    Having been off the bike since Thanksgiving, that would be a disaster
    for me since I know of whom you speak. I'm going to play 10th mountain
    division army man next weekend, snowshoeing Tennessee pass and then an
    Elk dinner in a yurt(?) with the mountain bike club.

    --
    o-o-o-o Ride-A-Lot o-o-o-o
    www.schnauzers.ws

  14. "Ride-A-Lot" <mitchell@[NOSPAM]schnauzers.ws> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    GeeDubb said:


    "Ride-A-Lot" <mitchell@[NOSPAM]schnauzers.ws> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    GeeDubb wrote:
    >
    > No mud, very dry digging but the river had water flowing. Next trail
    > day is 2-10-07,
    > mark it on your calendar ;-). There's a not so good shot posted in
    > MTBR http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?p=2609361#poststop if you're
    > a member you can view it, if not it's not worthy of signing up.
    >
    > Gary

    Wow! It's awfully green out there right now. Maybe I should use some
    FF miles and pay you a visit.


    come on down. Not so green in Phoenix but 40 minutes North of town seems
    to be somewhat wetter. Rumor has it that several riders better than I
    will be visiting the area next weekend.....

    Gary

    Having been off the bike since Thanksgiving, that would be a disaster for
    me since I know of whom you speak. I'm going to play 10th mountain
    division army man next weekend, snowshoeing Tennessee pass and then an Elk
    dinner in a yurt(?) with the mountain bike club.


    sounds like a good time, elk is good, yurts are warm and you'll be with
    fellow mtb'rs.

    Sent a PM with yurt picture.

    Gary

  15. GeeDubb said:
    Quoted message said:


    Having been off the bike since Thanksgiving, that would be a disaster
    for me since I know of whom you speak. I'm going to play 10th
    mountain division army man next weekend, snowshoeing Tennessee pass
    and then an Elk dinner in a yurt(?) with the mountain bike club.


    sounds like a good time, elk is good, yurts are warm and you'll be with
    fellow mtb'rs.

    Sent a PM with yurt picture.

    Gary

    Thanks.

    --
    o-o-o-o Ride-A-Lot o-o-o-o
    www.schnauzers.ws

  16. "GeeDubb" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    It seems the BLM is putting our tax dollars to good work. I and about 30
    (the AZ style part) other volunteers helped cut in some 800-1000 feet of
    new trail near Black Canyon City. In the plans are some 100 miles of
    trails from what I heard. Eventually this single track (no motors
    allowed) will run from the edge of the Prescott National Forest boundary
    (BLM is working with FS to continue trail through) South to the Carefree
    Hwy. This will make for one killer epic when finished. BLM is also
    hiring trail crews to do some of the heavier work.

    A lot of pics were taken today and when I find out where they're at I'll
    post a link. It was a beautiful day and made special by all the hard work
    from everybody (including the horse folks) :-).

    Gary

    Thanks to all that worked on this trail. I rode the Pan Loop X-Mas Day.
    Nice work.

    Dean

  17. GeeDubb said:

    It seems the BLM is putting our tax dollars to good work. I and about
    30 (the AZ style part) other volunteers helped cut in some 800-1000 feet
    of new trail near Black Canyon City. In the plans are some 100 miles of
    trails from what I heard. Eventually this single track (no motors
    allowed) will run from the edge of the Prescott National Forest boundary
    (BLM is working with FS to continue trail through) South to the Carefree
    Hwy. This will make for one killer epic when finished. BLM is also
    hiring trail crews to do some of the heavier work.

    A lot of pics were taken today and when I find out where they're at I'll
    post a link. It was a beautiful day and made special by all the hard
    work from everybody (including the horse folks) :-).

    Gary

    Ya know. I read this again and then pictured where that trail would be.
    Holy motherload. I would suppose that if you do the 100 miles you
    would want to start in Prescott and end in Carefree otherwise it would
    be a killer uphill ride. Does it have to cross the interstate at some
    point?

    --
    o-o-o-o Ride-A-Lot o-o-o-o
    www.schnauzers.ws

  18. "Ride-A-Lot" <mitchell@[NOSPAM]schnauzers.ws> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    GeeDubb said:

    It seems the BLM is putting our tax dollars to good work. I and about 30
    (the AZ style part) other volunteers helped cut in some 800-1000 feet of
    new trail near Black Canyon City. In the plans are some 100 miles of
    trails from what I heard. Eventually this single track (no motors
    allowed) will run from the edge of the Prescott National Forest boundary
    (BLM is working with FS to continue trail through) South to the Carefree
    Hwy. This will make for one killer epic when finished. BLM is also
    hiring trail crews to do some of the heavier work.

    A lot of pics were taken today and when I find out where they're at I'll
    post a link. It was a beautiful day and made special by all the hard
    work from everybody (including the horse folks) :-).

    Gary

    Ya know. I read this again and then pictured where that trail would be.
    Holy motherload. I would suppose that if you do the 100 miles you would
    want to start in Prescott and end in Carefree otherwise it would be a
    killer uphill ride. Does it have to cross the interstate at some point?

    --

    No interstate crossing (all on west side of I17 or would that be route
    17.....) and yes, it would be easier to go from PNF down to Carefree Hwy.
    more detail at www.bctaz.com (think I posted a bad link before)

    here's site description
    "The non-motorized, single-track trail under construction is designed for
    use by equestrians, hikers and mountain bikers. It is approximately 62
    miles long, stretching from the Carefree Highway (AZ Highway 74), northward
    along the base of the Bradshaw Mountains, beyond highway 69 near the town of
    Mayer to the Prescott National Forest."

    Gary (if I ever find my gps I'll send you a route map...)

  19. Ride-A-Lot said:
    GeeDubb said:


    "Ride-A-Lot" <mitchell@[NOSPAM]schnauzers.ws> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    GeeDubb wrote:

    >
    > No mud, very dry digging but the river had water flowing. Next
    > trail day is 2-10-07,
    > mark it on your calendar ;-). There's a not so good shot posted in
    > MTBR http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?p=2609361#poststop if
    > you're a member you can view it, if not it's not worthy of signing up.
    >
    > Gary

    Wow! It's awfully green out there right now. Maybe I should use
    some FF miles and pay you a visit.


    come on down. Not so green in Phoenix but 40 minutes North of town
    seems to be somewhat wetter. Rumor has it that several riders better
    than I will be visiting the area next weekend.....

    Gary

    Having been off the bike since Thanksgiving, that would be a disaster
    for me since I know of whom you speak. I'm going to play 10th mountain
    division army man next weekend, snowshoeing Tennessee pass and then an
    Elk dinner in a yurt(?) with the mountain bike club.

    10th Mountain Division would have done it on skis!
    Snowshoeing has taught me that there's no better way to get around the
    snowy backcountry than skiing! Have fun! 🙂

    Matt

  20. MattB said:


    10th Mountain Division would have done it on skis!
    Snowshoeing has taught me that there's no better way to get around the
    snowy backcountry than skiing! Have fun! 🙂

    Matt

    Yeah, I know. It's as close as I am willing to go. I spent enough $$$
    on winter [censored] this year. So much for my new fork and wheelset in the
    spring. 🙁

    --
    o-o-o-o Ride-A-Lot o-o-o-o
    www.schnauzers.ws

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