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Miss Violette
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5 March 2004, 09:48 UTC #61

hhhmmm, will consider that, have been ogling a four door Dakota, Lee
Joyce <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...
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The credit/debit card is nice because it isn't billed - the money is taken immediately out of the
checking account. So in effect, it just saves me

from
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writing a check. I don't carry cash, I know I will blow through it if I

do ...
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but I think twice before spending what is in the checking account. Funny

how we
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all learn what WE can handle. <g> The other card is not kept in my purse,

so if I
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know I am going to be going out, I have to search for it. Guess it helps

to keep
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those impulse purchases under control.
We're also like you, save the money pay cash for the vehicles. I

currently do
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have a loan on one, but it is a company vehicle so was a better tax

incentive to
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do it this way. The other 2 were bought outright. And just in case you

weren't
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aware of it ... new tax incentive next year for businesses ... any NEW

equipment
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purchased is 50% writeoff the first year (if I understood my accountant correctly). Sooooooooo -
it may be time to think about another business

vehicle.
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<G>
Joyce
On Fri, 5 Mar 2004 01:05:02 -0600, "Miss Violette"

<[email hidden]>
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I don't like them because it is too easy to "need" more than I actually

do,
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I consider no credit cards sort of portion control for money, we also

save
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and purchase car for cash when we can. Last time we got a 2 year note because of the zero stuff
and me wanting to trade the car we had because

I
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was too terrified to sell it privately, I just don't like anything

hanging
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out there, am not overly thrilled with house note but hey, that is a bit away, Lee Joyce
<[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...
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I do agree, but also use my credit card regularly. Actually, I use two

regularly.
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One is linked directly to my checking account (debit/credit card) but

if
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you run
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it as credit you get a cash rebate on every purchase. Not a huge

amount,
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but I
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average about $10/month or so. And $10 is $10 as far as I'm concerned.

The other
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is strictly a credit card, again with rebate incentive, 1% of all

purchases.
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Doesn't amount to a lot, but it's better than nothing. So most all

other
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purchases go on this card and the bill gets paid in full at the end of

the
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billing
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cycle. I never carry a balance on the card.
My son just received his very first credit card, figured it was time

for
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him to
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start building a credit rating of his own. Guess he has learned

something
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from
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his mom and dad ... noticed that he went online and paid the entire

bill
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off
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BEFORE the bill even hit the mailbox. His logic was that he currently

had
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the
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money in his checking account, and wanted that bill paid off before he

dipped into
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the funds for pleasure purchases. So far he says he will not put

anything
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on it
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that he doesn't have the money to cover. Time will tell.
Credit cards aren't necessarily bad, you just have to know how to use

them
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... and
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not think they are a never ending source of your own funds.
Joyce
On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 05:39:26 -0600, "Miss Violette"

<[email hidden]>
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wrote:
>best thing DH and I ever did was get rid of all credit cards. Lee Joyce <[email hidden]> wrote
>in message "]news:[email hidden]...
>> Yup, I don't know what it is with people around here. They seem to

have
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>no
>> problem signing their names and going deeper in debt, not having

much
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of a
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>clue as
>> to how to budget or wait until you could afford something.

Unfortunately,
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>my
>> oldest girl is the same way ... it's like she is trying to keep up
>appearances or
>> have people think she is something she isn't. Has had 2 homes in 4

years
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>(a
>> condo, then had a home built), now has sold THAT house and is going

to
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>build
>> another (will never consider living in a pre-built/already lived in

home).
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>She is
>> fooling herself when she says she is coming out ahead. The homes

had
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to
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>be filled
>> with high priced lovely furniture, all on credit. Heck, I've been

married
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>22
>> years now and still don't have a matching bedroom set .. and I don't

care!
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>We've
>> had 3 homes sell in our neighborhood, all for over $300,000 ... and

none
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>are grand
>> by any stretch of the imagination. I live in an older well

established
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>> neighborhood of old non-fancy type homes, probably built in the 50 -

60's.
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>> Unbelievable to me what they are going for, I have a tough time
>comprehending it.
>> The most recent sale is my next door neighbor - and every couple I

saw
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>walk
>> through the place was very young. I wonder how the heck high their
>mortgage
>> payment is going to be, and how they can afford it. Taxes alone are

close
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>to
>> $7G/year (according to my neighbor). Oh well, my next move will be
>further west
>> ... for retirement. Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay west. LOL And believe it

or
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not,
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>it
>> didn't use to be this way. Homes were inexpensive, areas were

small,
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>residents
>> were long standing. I think with the tech corridors, came

transplanting
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>(as I
>> call it) ... move 'em in, move 'em out. Progress? If you want to

see
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>some really
>> silly things, I should point you in the direction of a few new

schools
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>being built
>> in the Naperville/Plainfield area. Absolutely ridiculous, huge

monsters.
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>Hub
>> said the one he is currently working on has a food court in the

middle
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of
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>the
>> building ... like what you would find in a shopping mall. Do kids

really
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>need
>> this for an education?
>>
>> That intersection has horrible vision during certain hours. No

trees
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or
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>anything
>> to block the sunlight, too many people trying to move through a busy

place
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>in too
>> little time. Someone always trying to beat the light from changing.
>Semi's who
>> would rather use their horns than their brakes, lots of kids trying

to
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>make it to
>> school on time. Mornings and early evenings are the worse. There

was
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>just
>> another fatal accident in that vacinity last week. I'm too old to

be
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in a
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>> now, tend to wait everything out and make sure my path is clear. On

the
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>> side, being a local resident we know the *back routes* and are able

to
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>totally
>> avoid this area during the rush hours.
>>
>> The theater wasn't much of an issue to me either, can't remember the

last
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>time I
>> went to one. We normally wait until movies come out on videos -

much
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less
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>> expensive. But it was a place the kids could afford to go. There

really
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>isn't
>> much around here for them to do, that doesn't cost an arm and a leg.
>Unless they
>> want to go to the $1 theaters (probably $4 by now) and see the

movies
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that
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>> released several years ago. <G>
>>
>> Ahhhhh, I've become much too chatty about the ultra modern area we

are
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in.
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><g>
>> I'm not big on change.
>>
>> joyce
>>
>> On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 02:44:47 -0600, "skiur" <[email hidden]>

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>> >I love this part:
>> >
>> >"That's what we get for living in the land of those that would like

you
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>> >believe they are rich. "
>> >
>> >It seems like every burb around here is like that and it's a factor

of
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>the
>> >over-inflated housing market. Atlanta is another area where

everyone
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>would
>> >want you to believe they are well off. I remember going to a

friend's
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>place
>> >that was brand new and looked great. Of course, a few months later

it
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>> >looked like a tornado hit it-yes she and her roomie were messy, but

it
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>was
>> >cheaply constructed.
>> >
>> >I didn't think that intersection was *that* bad, but then again

there
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are
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>a
>> >lot of people who are impatient and don't know how to wait for a

light.
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>I'm
>> >sorry to hear about the movie theater-I am not a big movie goer, so

I
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>really
>> >can't add anything useful other than the AMC on Barrington makes it

not
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>> >worth going to see a movie. Then again, I think the cost of the

ticket
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>has
>> >a lot to do with it. Barely under $10 for a movie is absurd to me.

I
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can
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>> >wait till it comes out on DVD and pay the same amount as I would to

see
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>it
>> >in the theater-yet then I can watch it whenever I want to again.
>> >
>> >Thank you for going to the basement for me :-) I'm happy to know

that
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my
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>> >favorite (Lemon) is one of the "cheap" treats. Then again, I've

been
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>known
>> >to eat 2 at a time, but it's still less than a coconut.
>> >
>> >"Joyce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...
>> >> I haven't noticed any freezing/refreezing issues with the orange
>sorbet,
>> >but also
>> >> have it stored in a freezer that doesn't auto defrost. I have

noticed
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>the
>> >skinny
>> >> cows, if kept in my upstairs self-defrosting freezer, do seem to

alter
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>> >somewhat
>> >> after a few of these refreezes. <G> I have no idea if they sell

well
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>at
>> >our store
>> >> or not, all varieties have been readily available when I make the

trip.
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>> >Ok, ya
>> >> had to make me trek down to the basement, didn't ya? <G> Here's

your
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>> >point
>> >> counts: Coconut = 3.70 points; Lemon 1.60 points; Orange 1.78

points.
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>> >None are
>> >> really bad compared to other options, I tend to lean more towards

the
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>> >> options though.
>> >>
>> >> You got it right, the intersection is Naperville Road ... or for

us
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old
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>> >timers,
>> >> Naperville-Wheaton Road (dating myself agin). That corner is
>technically
>> >Wheaton,
>> >> a few blocks south and you are in Naperville ... a few blocks

east
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and
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>you
>> >are in
>> >> Glen Ellyn. It is a nasty, nasty intersection - very dangerous,

lots
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>of
>> >accidents
>> >> and extremely high traffic. THAT is what I deal with on a daily

basis.
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>> >You are
>> >> now in MY neck of the woods - maybe a mile or so from my house.

My
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>> >daughters high
>> >> school is the next major intersection to the east (Butterfield

and
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>Park).
>> >Borders
>> >> is one of the kids favorite places to *hang out*, as well as the

Whole
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>> >Foods -
>> >> they love to go sampling. <G> The theater closed recently, not

too
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>happy
>> >about
>> >> that since it really was the only one that was reasonably nearby.

Now
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>> >kids
>> >> have to do much more traveling, through much heavier traffic (and

spend
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>> >much more
>> >> money on those ultra-fancy new theaters). Oh well, progress I

guess.
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>> >> we get for living in the land of those that would like you to

believe
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>> >are
>> >> rich. <G>
>> >>
>> >> Joyce
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, 3 Mar 2004 19:39:26 -0600, "skiur" <[email hidden]>
>wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >dh and I prefer the coconut with the lemon in second because the

lemon
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>> >kills
>> >> >off any more desire for sweet things afterwards-and they are

pretty
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>point
>> >> >friendly if I remember right. I think the orange wasn't selling

to
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>> >at
>> >> >our store, it seemed like it melted and refroze at some point.

What's
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>> >> >point count on them?
>> >> >
>> >> >I love the Whole Foods at Butterfield and...oh whatever that

road
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is
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>> >> >(Naperville?) and the bookstore, and the shops.
>> >> >
>> >> >"Joyce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
>> >> >"]news:[email hidden]...
>> >> >> I'm pretty good with the surrounding suburbs, put me anywhere

in
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>> >city
>> >> >itself
>> >> >> and forget it. I am not a big city person, don't like the

crowds
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>> >> >hassles.
>> >> >> I've lived in this area for almost 47 years now, could

probably
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>> >how
>> >> >many
>> >> >> times I've been in the city on one hand (and my older sis used

to
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>> >> >there). As
>> >> >> my dad used to say, "I didn't lose anything there, so why

should
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I
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>> >> >return". <G>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> St. Charles is a wonderful town, my sil has her office there

(state
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>> >farm
>> >> >> insurance) ... and Geneva ... well, haven't been there for a

few
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>> >> >but used
>> >> >> to love going shopping there. Tons of quaint little specialty
>shops.
>> >I
>> >> >guess I
>> >> >> don't venture too far from where I live as being surrounded by
>> >Naperville,
>> >> >Wheaton
>> >> >> and Oakbrook - well, have access to everything imaginable

right
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>> >a
>> >> >few
>> >> >> miles. I am not a traveler. LOL!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I have had trader Joe's coconut sorbet, and yes, it is

fantastic!
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>> >> >orange is
>> >> >> very good too. I love how they serve it in the little shells,
>rinds,
>> >etc.
>> >> >I also
>> >> >> tried the lemon, was just too [censored] for my tastes though. I

have
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>> >in
>> >> >the
>> >> >> freezer still, forgot all about it. Guess I'll have to eat

some
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>> >> >this
>> >> >> week. <G>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Joyce
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Tue, 2 Mar 2004 19:05:59 -0600, "skiur"

<[email hidden]>
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>> >wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >dh calls me a ranger because I always like to know where

everything
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>> >> >> >Chicagoland is humungous. I figure I'll have this place

figured
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>> >in
>> >> >the
>> >> >> >next 5 years. At least it'll be something to do.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >I used to live in St. Charles so I was watching it go up for

a
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>> >> >then I
>> >> >> >moved to NJ and then back here. We did some xmas shopping in
>Geneva
>> >> >because
>> >> >> >I couldn't face the lot at Woodfield so we stopped in just to

check
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>> >> >out.
>> >> >> >Have you had their coconut sorbet? I think it's only 110

calories
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>> >> >shell.
>> >> >> >It's to die for.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Julie
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >"Joyce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
>> >> >> >"]news:[email hidden]...
>> >> >> >> I'd been watching that one going up for quite some time. I

pass
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>> >it
>> >> >> >whenever I
>> >> >> >> go out to my brothers house (he is in Elburn). You do a

lot
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>> >> >> >don't
>> >> >> >> you? <G> Thanks for passing on the tip though, I'll take

a
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run
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>> >> >there
>> >> >> >one day
>> >> >> >> (when the weather gets nicer). I really do love that

place!
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>> >> >> >> Joyce
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 23:48:10 -0600, "skiur"
><[email hidden]>
>> >> >wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >Joyce,
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >They just built a new one in Batavia/Geneva (it's at the

corner
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>> >> >> >Fabiyan
>> >> >> >> >Pkwy and Randal Rd, Joyce) and for a Trader Joe's it's

roomier.
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>> >They
>> >> >> >have
>> >> >> >> >things that I haven't seen at my usual store (Arlington
>Heights),
>> >so
>> >> >you
>> >> >> >> >might want to check it out if you have a chance.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >J
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >"Miss Violette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message -"]news:[email hidden]-
>> >> >> >> >berlin.de...
>> >> >> >> >> Good deal part of the reason I asked what you guys would

buy
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>> >> >> >assumed
>> >> >> >> >it
>> >> >> >> >> would be one of those huge places. Since you say it is
>smaller I
>> >> >can
>> >> >> >> >handle
>> >> >> >> >> a bit of shopping, Lee Joyce <[email hidden]> wrote in message
>> >> >> >> >> "]news:[email hidden]...
>> >> >> >> >> > If you have the time to spare, just slowly wander

around
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>> >> >> >It
>> >> >> >> >> isn't a
>> >> >> >> >> > large place, my local store only has 5 or 6 aisles,

not
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>> >> >the
>> >> >> >> >> liquor
>> >> >> >> >> > section. But it really is loaded with a lot of things

I
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>> >> >> >seen
>> >> >> >> >> > elsewhere. Have fun, and I hope you like it as much

as I
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>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > Joyce
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 02:17:02 -0600, "Miss Violette"
>> >> >> >> >> <[email hidden]>
>> >> >> >> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > >drooling to dehydration now... Truth is Joyce, the

only
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>> >> >> >> >vegetable
>> >> >> >> >> I
>> >> >> >> >> > >don't eat is cooked carrots, the only raw one I would
>rather
>> >not
>> >> >eat
>> >> >> >is
>> >> >> >> >> > >broccoli, one of the reasons I am here now is that I

just
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>> >> >love
>> >> >> >to
>> >> >> >> >> eat
>> >> >> >> >> > >most things and except for the items I am allergic to
>haven't
>> >met
>> >> >> >too
>> >> >> >> >> much I
>> >> >> >> >> > >won't at least try once. Chime away I think I am
>dehydrated
>> >> >Moore
>> >> >> >> >> reading
>> >> >> >> >> > >this than I have been in a long time, Lee Joyce <[email hidden]> wrote in
>> >> >> >> >> > >message "]news:[email hidden]...
>> >> >> >> >> > >> This is tough Lee, as I don't know what you like to

eat
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>> >and
>> >> >> >what
>> >> >> >> >> you
>> >> >> >> >> > >totally
>> >> >> >> >> > >> detest (other than the low carb pasta - LOL). So

I'll
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>> >> >give
>> >> >> >you
>> >> >> >> >my
>> >> >> >> >> > >favorites
>> >> >> >> >> > >> and let you make up your own mind.
>> >> >> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> >> >> > >> - British whole wheat english muffins (is the only

place
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>> >can
>> >> >> >find
>> >> >> >> >> whole
>> >> >> >> >> > >wheat
>> >> >> >> >> > >> english muffins that work out to 2pts each)
>> >> >> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> >> >> > >> - Blueberry bran muffins - these are more like mini
>muffins,
>> >> >very
>> >> >> >> >good
>> >> >> >> >> at
>> >> >> >> >> > >about 1
>> >> >> >> >> > >> or 1.5 pts each. Be careful though! There are no
>> >> >preservatives
>> >> >> >and
>> >> >> >> >> they
>> >> >> >> >> > >tend to
>> >> >> >> >> > >> go moldy very quickly. If you buy in any quantity,
>FREEZE
>> >...
>> >> >> >store
>> >> >> >> >in
>> >> >> >> >> > >fridge
>> >> >> >> >> > >> when thawed for longer life.
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>> >> >> >> >> > >> - McCann's steel cut oatmeal - if you like oatmeal.

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>> >> >> >> >> > >> On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 02:59:11 -0600, "Miss Violette"
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Archived post

5 March 2004, 15:07 UTC #62

lol! And I've been thinking our company needs a snazzy new convertible for those summertime jobsite
reviews. <G> I especially like my sil's bmw roadster and sonny boy is really pushing the new
cadillac xlr (trust me, neither one is anywhere close to being in the budget).
Please check with your accountant first though, in case I've totally misunderstood the new law. I
really hate to mess up financial planning, or have any nasty surprises.
Joyce
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hhhmmm, will consider that, have been ogling a four door Dakota, Lee Joyce <[email hidden]> wrote in
message "]news:[email hidden]...
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The credit/debit card is nice because it isn't billed - the money is taken immediately out of the
checking account. So in effect, it just saves me

from
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writing a check. I don't carry cash, I know I will blow through it if I

do ...
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but I think twice before spending what is in the checking account. Funny

how we
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all learn what WE can handle. <g> The other card is not kept in my purse,

so if I
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know I am going to be going out, I have to search for it. Guess it helps

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those impulse purchases under control.
We're also like you, save the money pay cash for the vehicles. I

currently do
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have a loan on one, but it is a company vehicle so was a better tax

incentive to
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do it this way. The other 2 were bought outright. And just in case you

weren't
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aware of it ... new tax incentive next year for businesses ... any NEW

equipment
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purchased is 50% writeoff the first year (if I understood my accountant correctly). Sooooooooo -
it may be time to think about another business

vehicle.
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<G>
Joyce
On Fri, 5 Mar 2004 01:05:02 -0600, "Miss Violette"

<[email hidden]>
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I don't like them because it is too easy to "need" more than I actually

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I consider no credit cards sort of portion control for money, we also

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and purchase car for cash when we can. Last time we got a 2 year note because of the zero stuff
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hanging
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out there, am not overly thrilled with house note but hey, that is a bit away, Lee Joyce
<[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...
> I do agree, but also use my credit card regularly. Actually, I use two
regularly.
> One is linked directly to my checking account (debit/credit card) but

if
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you run
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but I
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purchases.
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> My son just received his very first credit card, figured it was time

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from
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> Credit cards aren't necessarily bad, you just have to know how to use

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> Joyce
>
> On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 05:39:26 -0600, "Miss Violette"
<[email hidden]>
> wrote:
>
> >best thing DH and I ever did was get rid of all credit cards. Lee Joyce <[email hidden]> wrote
> >in message "]news:[email hidden]...
> >> Yup, I don't know what it is with people around here. They seem to
have
> >no
> >> problem signing their names and going deeper in debt, not having

much
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> >> to how to budget or wait until you could afford something.
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> >my
> >> oldest girl is the same way ... it's like she is trying to keep up
> >appearances or
> >> have people think she is something she isn't. Has had 2 homes in 4
years
> >(a
> >> condo, then had a home built), now has sold THAT house and is going

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> >> fooling herself when she says she is coming out ahead. The homes

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> >> with high priced lovely furniture, all on credit. Heck, I've been
married
> >22
> >> years now and still don't have a matching bedroom set .. and I don't
care!
> >We've
> >> had 3 homes sell in our neighborhood, all for over $300,000 ... and
none
> >are grand
> >> by any stretch of the imagination. I live in an older well

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> >comprehending it.
> >> The most recent sale is my next door neighbor - and every couple I

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> >> $7G/year (according to my neighbor). Oh well, my next move will be
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> >> joyce
> >>
> >> On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 02:44:47 -0600, "skiur" <[email hidden]>
wrote:
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> >> >I love this part:
> >> >
> >> >"That's what we get for living in the land of those that would like
you
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> >> >
> >> >"Joyce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> >> >"]news:[email hidden]...
> >> >> I haven't noticed any freezing/refreezing issues with the orange
> >sorbet,
> >> >but also
> >> >> have it stored in a freezer that doesn't auto defrost. I have
noticed
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> >> >skinny
> >> >> cows, if kept in my upstairs self-defrosting freezer, do seem to
alter
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> >> >> after a few of these refreezes. <G> I have no idea if they sell
well
> >at
> >> >our store
> >> >> or not, all varieties have been readily available when I make the
trip.
> >> >Ok, ya
> >> >> had to make me trek down to the basement, didn't ya? <G> Here's
your
> >> >point
> >> >> counts: Coconut = 3.70 points; Lemon 1.60 points; Orange 1.78
points.
> >> >None are
> >> >> really bad compared to other options, I tend to lean more towards
the
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> >> >> options though.
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> >> >> You got it right, the intersection is Naperville Road ... or for

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lots
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> >> >accidents
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basis.
> >> >You are
> >> >> now in MY neck of the woods - maybe a mile or so from my house.

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spend
> >> >much more
> >> >> money on those ultra-fancy new theaters). Oh well, progress I
guess.
> >> >That's what
> >> >> we get for living in the land of those that would like you to
believe
> >they
> >> >are
> >> >> rich. <G>
> >> >>
> >> >> Joyce
> >> >>
> >> >> On Wed, 3 Mar 2004 19:39:26 -0600, "skiur" <[email hidden]>
> >wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >dh and I prefer the coconut with the lemon in second because the
lemon
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> >> >> >I love the Whole Foods at Butterfield and...oh whatever that

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> >> >> >(Naperville?) and the bookstore, and the shops.
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> >> >> >"Joyce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> >> >> >"]news:[email hidden]...
> >> >> >> I'm pretty good with the surrounding suburbs, put me anywhere

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> >> >> >> times I've been in the city on one hand (and my older sis used

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> >> >> >return". <G>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> St. Charles is a wonderful town, my sil has her office there
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> >> >farm
> >> >> >> insurance) ... and Geneva ... well, haven't been there for a

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> >> >I
> >> >> >guess I
> >> >> >> don't venture too far from where I live as being surrounded by
> >> >Naperville,
> >> >> >Wheaton
> >> >> >> and Oakbrook - well, have access to everything imaginable

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> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I have had trader Joe's coconut sorbet, and yes, it is

fantastic!
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> >> >> >orange is
> >> >> >> very good too. I love how they serve it in the little shells,
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> >> >> >I also
> >> >> >> tried the lemon, was just too [censored] for my tastes though. I

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> >> >> >this
> >> >> >> week. <G>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Joyce
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On Tue, 2 Mar 2004 19:05:59 -0600, "skiur"

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> >> >> >> >Chicagoland is humungous. I figure I'll have this place

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> >> >in
> >> >> >the
> >> >> >> >next 5 years. At least it'll be something to do.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >I used to live in St. Charles so I was watching it go up for

a
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> >while,
> >> >> >then I
> >> >> >> >moved to NJ and then back here. We did some xmas shopping in
> >Geneva
> >> >> >because
> >> >> >> >I couldn't face the lot at Woodfield so we stopped in just to
check
> >it
> >> >> >out.
> >> >> >> >Have you had their coconut sorbet? I think it's only 110
calories
> >a
> >> >> >shell.
> >> >> >> >It's to die for.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >Julie
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >"Joyce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> >> >> >> >"]news:[email hidden]...
> >> >> >> >> I'd been watching that one going up for quite some time. I
pass
> >by
> >> >it
> >> >> >> >whenever I
> >> >> >> >> go out to my brothers house (he is in Elburn). You do a

lot
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a
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> >> >> >there
> >> >> >> >one day
> >> >> >> >> (when the weather gets nicer). I really do love that

place!
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> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Joyce
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 23:48:10 -0600, "skiur"
> ><[email hidden]>
> >> >> >wrote:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >Joyce,
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >They just built a new one in Batavia/Geneva (it's at the
corner
> >of
> >> >> >> >Fabiyan
> >> >> >> >> >Pkwy and Randal Rd, Joyce) and for a Trader Joe's it's
roomier.
> >> >They
> >> >> >> >have
> >> >> >> >> >things that I haven't seen at my usual store (Arlington
> >Heights),
> >> >so
> >> >> >you
> >> >> >> >> >might want to check it out if you have a chance.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >J
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >"Miss Violette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message -"]news:[email hidden]-
> >> >> >> >> >berlin.de...
> >> >> >> >> >> Good deal part of the reason I asked what you guys would
buy
> >is I
> >> >> >> >assumed
> >> >> >> >> >it
> >> >> >> >> >> would be one of those huge places. Since you say it is
> >smaller I
> >> >> >can
> >> >> >> >> >handle
> >> >> >> >> >> a bit of shopping, Lee Joyce <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> >> >> >> >> >> "]news:[email hidden]...
> >> >> >> >> >> > If you have the time to spare, just slowly wander

around
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> >> >> >> >> >> > large place, my local store only has 5 or 6 aisles,

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> >> >> >> >seen
> >> >> >> >> >> > elsewhere. Have fun, and I hope you like it as much

as I
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> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > Joyce
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 02:17:02 -0600, "Miss Violette"
> >> >> >> >> >> <[email hidden]>
> >> >> >> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > >drooling to dehydration now... Truth is Joyce, the

only
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> >cooked
> >> >> >> >> >vegetable
> >> >> >> >> >> I
> >> >> >> >> >> > >don't eat is cooked carrots, the only raw one I would
> >rather
> >> >not
> >> >> >eat
> >> >> >> >is
> >> >> >> >> >> > >broccoli, one of the reasons I am here now is that I
just
> >> >plain
> >> >> >love
> >> >> >> >to
> >> >> >> >> >> eat
> >> >> >> >> >> > >most things and except for the items I am allergic to
> >haven't
> >> >met
> >> >> >> >too
> >> >> >> >> >> much I
> >> >> >> >> >> > >won't at least try once. Chime away I think I am
> >dehydrated
> >> >> >Moore
> >> >> >> >> >> reading
> >> >> >> >> >> > >this than I have been in a long time, Lee Joyce <[email hidden]> wrote in
> >> >> >> >> >> > >message "]news:[email hidden]...
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> This is tough Lee, as I don't know what you like to
eat
> >...
> >> >and
> >> >> >> >what
> >> >> >> >> >> you
> >> >> >> >> >> > >totally
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> detest (other than the low carb pasta - LOL). So

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> >> >> >give
> >> >> >> >you
> >> >> >> >> >my
> >> >> >> >> >> > >favorites
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> and let you make up your own mind.
> >> >> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> - British whole wheat english muffins (is the only
place
> >I
> >> >can
> >> >> >> >find
> >> >> >> >> >> whole
> >> >> >> >> >> > >wheat
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> english muffins that work out to 2pts each)
> >> >> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> - Blueberry bran muffins - these are more like mini
> >muffins,
> >> >> >very
> >> >> >> >> >good
> >> >> >> >> >> at
> >> >> >> >> >> > >about 1
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> or 1.5 pts each. Be careful though! There are no
> >> >> >preservatives
> >> >> >> >and
> >> >> >> >> >> they
> >> >> >> >> >> > >tend to
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> go moldy very quickly. If you buy in any quantity,
> >FREEZE
> >> >...
> >> >> >> >store
> >> >> >> >> >in
> >> >> >> >> >> > >fridge
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> when thawed for longer life.
> >> >> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> - McCann's steel cut oatmeal - if you like oatmeal.
Not
> >an
> >> >> >> >instant
> >> >> >> >> >> > >variety
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> though.
> >> >> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> - frozen lean cuisine type dinners: roasted

vegetable
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> >> >> >> >> >> garden
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> vegetable lasagna. Be careful with these when
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> >> >point
> >> >> >> >values
> >> >> >> >> >as
> >> >> >> >> >> > >the
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> package may be considered 2 servings (still pretty
> >> >reasonable
> >> >> >> >> >> pointwise)
> >> >> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> - the frozen fish is fantastic - this I usually buy
half
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> >> >> >> >> >> > >> freeze and really is my main reason for going.

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Guess
> >I
> >> >> >really
> >> >> >> >> >> haven't
> >> >> >> >> >> > >had any
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> bad seafood from there yet.
> >> >> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> - frozen fruit ... I love their berry medley.

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> >> >> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> - not very point friendly: vodka sauce (a red

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> >> >> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> - In the fresh meats section they have a lot of
different
> >> >> >> >varieties
> >> >> >> >> >of
> >> >> >> >> >> > >skinless
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> chicken sausages, all are extremely good. Our
favorite
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> >> >> >> >> >> > >> variety, and the tomato basil (I think) ... I've

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points
> >per
> >> >> >link,
> >> >> >> >I
> >> >> >> >> >> use
> >> >> >> >> >> > >them
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> sometimes for sausage sandwiches (grilled), usually
cut
> >up 2
> >> >or
> >> >> >3
> >> >> >> >> >> links,
> >> >> >> >> >> > >add to a
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> little cooked rigatoni or other pasta, tons of
veggies,
> >> >> >tomatoes
> >> >> >> >or
> >> >> >> >> >> that
> >> >> >> >> >> > >red
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> pepper sauce ... makes a reasonably pointed yet

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> >> >> >> >> >> very,
> >> >> >> >> >> > >very good
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> and 1 point each.
> >> >> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> - If you like dried fruit they have a lot of great
> >mixtures
> >> >as
> >> >> >> >well
> >> >> >> >> >as
> >> >> >> >> >> > >packages of
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> individual varieties. One of my favorites is the
granny
> >> >smith
> >> >> >> >dried
> >> >> >> >> >> apple
> >> >> >> >> >> > >rings.
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> >> >> >> >> >> > >> - I've never tried any, but I've heard their wines

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> >> >> >do,
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> >> >> >> >> >> > >> in.
> >> >> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> Joyce
> >> >> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 02:59:11 -0600, "Miss Violette"
> >> >> >> >> >> > ><[email hidden]>
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >OK we will be in the Chicago area this weekend, I

get
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> >> >trip,
> >> >> >> >time
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >permitting to trader Joe's. What would buy from
there,
> >and
> >> >in
> >> >> >> >what
> >> >> >> >> >> > >quantity
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >if money and storage were not issues, Lee, who

just
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> >> >> >> >>
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>

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Archived post

6 March 2004, 00:03 UTC #63

Beats me, but I think ME works just fine.
"Joyce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...
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Yea, what is the terminology or name they have given to this generation?

I'm
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thinking the *ME* generation, but probably am wrong. But it does seem to

be where
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there line of thoughts are ... me, me, me .. I want it now, I won't wait,

I don't
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have to wait. I tell hub it's our own fault, we spoiled them. <g> I know

when our
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daughter graduated college she had it in her head that she deserved to

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to the top of the heap because she had that degree. When we came out of

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we knew we started at the bottom, worked hard and proved our worth - thus

moving
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up. Nothing was *deserved*, we had to earn it all. I also recall her

being angry
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when not receiving holiday bonuses ... again, thought they were automatic

... as
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well as severance packages when her company closed their doors. Yup, they

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nice - but not mandatory. I somewhat think the colleges are at fault too.

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pump the kids heads with lots of this false info. Tell them that with

THIS
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degree, you will make THIS much money the minute you graduate. It just

isn't
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true, yet the kids believe it. Hub and I were told that the reason this generation couldn't find
jobs was because WE wouldn't retire to make room

for them
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at the top. Well guess what? WE are not retirement age yet and still

need to be
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able to support ourselves ... and them sometimes. <g> Ahhhhh, an entirely different line of
thinking.
Most all of the 'burbs around here have a movie theater in the center of

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which carry the older movies at a reduced rate. The one in downtown glen

ellyn
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had Lost in Translation on the marquee last week. I know there are also

theaters
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like this in Naperville (corner of Naperville Rd. and Ogden, in the

stripmall with
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Dominick's and K-mart - but don't know the name of the theater as it

always
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changes) ... Wheaton (wheaton theater?), Glen Ellyn (the Glen), Lombard

(again,
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don't know the name but is in the downtown area). Definitely nothing

fancy, small
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theaters - but the price is right.
Joyce
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I can't tell you what the deal is. I've seen it in Atlanta and Philadelphia-frankly every where
I've lived it's been there. It's a different way of living style. You grew up through a different
era than people in younger generations. You also said you don't care.
The younger gen grew up in the 80s when it was all about flash and big salaries. The there was
the dotcom boom, big bucks for people right out

of
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school, etc. A 300K mortgage isn't a lot when the interest rates are

low.
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They are just in debt longer and it's not seen as a big deal because it matter to them to
impress. Younger generation has miniscule savings accounts in comparison to my parents
generation. Young people want to be successful. They want to look like they are making it. It
comes down to

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and how big of an ego you have.
I don't think kids need a food court in a school-that's just ridiculous.
I'm going to stop now, because I can be on it for a LONG time. All that said though, I feel a bit
jealous when I see the homes that my friends

buy.
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I know they are in debt up to the eyeballs. I don't know how they can

affort
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it all. I do know that my credit card debt is low, but I have a car loan

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student loans and unless I get a better paycheck it'll be a while before

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can get a house.
Where is there a cheap movie theater? I wouldn't mind seeing some of the movies that should be
seen on the big screen?
"Joyce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...
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Yup, I don't know what it is with people around here. They seem to

have
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problem signing their names and going deeper in debt, not having much

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clue as
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to how to budget or wait until you could afford something.

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oldest girl is the same way ... it's like she is trying to keep up

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have people think she is something she isn't. Has had 2 homes in 4

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condo, then had a home built), now has sold THAT house and is going to

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another (will never consider living in a pre-built/already lived in

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fooling herself when she says she is coming out ahead. The homes had

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be filled
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with high priced lovely furniture, all on credit. Heck, I've been

married
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years now and still don't have a matching bedroom set .. and I don't

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had 3 homes sell in our neighborhood, all for over $300,000 ... and

none
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by any stretch of the imagination. I live in an older well established neighborhood of old non-
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60's.
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The most recent sale is my next door neighbor - and every couple I saw

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through the place was very young. I wonder how the heck high their

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payment is going to be, and how they can afford it. Taxes alone are

close
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$7G/year (according to my neighbor). Oh well, my next move will be

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... for retirement. Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay west. LOL And believe it or

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didn't use to be this way. Homes were inexpensive, areas were small,

residents
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were long standing. I think with the tech corridors, came

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call it) ... move 'em in, move 'em out. Progress? If you want to see

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silly things, I should point you in the direction of a few new schools

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in the Naperville/Plainfield area. Absolutely ridiculous, huge

monsters.
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said the one he is currently working on has a food court in the middle

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building ... like what you would find in a shopping mall. Do kids

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this for an education?
That intersection has horrible vision during certain hours. No trees

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to block the sunlight, too many people trying to move through a busy

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little time. Someone always trying to beat the light from changing.

Semi's who
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would rather use their horns than their brakes, lots of kids trying to

make it to
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school on time. Mornings and early evenings are the worse. There was

just
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another fatal accident in that vacinity last week. I'm too old to be

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hurry
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now, tend to wait everything out and make sure my path is clear. On

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side, being a local resident we know the *back routes* and are able to

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avoid this area during the rush hours.
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went to one. We normally wait until movies come out on videos - much

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expensive. But it was a place the kids could afford to go. There

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much around here for them to do, that doesn't cost an arm and a leg.

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want to go to the $1 theaters (probably $4 by now) and see the movies

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were
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released several years ago. <G>
Ahhhhh, I've become much too chatty about the ultra modern area we are

in.
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joyce
On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 02:44:47 -0600, "skiur" <[email hidden]>

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>I love this part:
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>"That's what we get for living in the land of those that would like

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>It seems like every burb around here is like that and it's a factor of

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>> On Wed, 3 Mar 2004 19:39:26 -0600, "skiur" <[email hidden]>

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>> >> Joyce
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>> >> On Tue, 2 Mar 2004 19:05:59 -0600, "skiur" <[email hidden]>
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>> >> >Julie
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>> >> >"Joyce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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>> >> >> Joyce
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 23:48:10 -0600, "skiur"

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>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >J
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >"Miss Violette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message -"]news:[email hidden]-
>> >> >> >berlin.de...
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>> >> >> >> > If you have the time to spare, just slowly wander around

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>> >> >> >> > Joyce
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 02:17:02 -0600, "Miss Violette"
>> >> >> >> <[email hidden]>
>> >> >> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > >drooling to dehydration now... Truth is Joyce, the only

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>> >> >> >> > >this than I have been in a long time, Lee Joyce <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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>> >> >> >> > >> This is tough Lee, as I don't know what you like to

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>> >> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> >> > >> - Blueberry bran muffins - these are more like mini

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>> >> >> >> > >> or 1.5 pts each. Be careful though! There are no
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>> >> >> >> > >tend to
>> >> >> >> > >> go moldy very quickly. If you buy in any quantity,

FREEZE
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>> >> >> >> > >> when thawed for longer life.
>> >> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> >> > >> - McCann's steel cut oatmeal - if you like oatmeal.

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>sausages
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>> >> >> >> very,
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>> >> >> >> > >> Off the top of my head I can't think of anything else.

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>> >> >> >> > >> Joyce
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>> >> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> >> > >> On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 02:59:11 -0600, "Miss Violette"
>> >> >> >> > ><[email hidden]>
>> >> >> >> > >> wrote:
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>> >> >> >> > >> >OK we will be in the Chicago area this weekend, I get

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6 March 2004, 08:17 UTC #64

I am soo like my cats, no change is good even if it is a good change, I am
very slow to decide anything, Lee
Joyce <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...
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lol! And I've been thinking our company needs a snazzy new convertible

for those
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summertime jobsite reviews. <G> I especially like my sil's bmw roadster

and sonny
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boy is really pushing the new cadillac xlr (trust me, neither one is

anywhere
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close to being in the budget).
Please check with your accountant first though, in case I've totally

misunderstood
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the new law. I really hate to mess up financial planning, or have any

nasty
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surprises.
Joyce
On Fri, 5 Mar 2004 03:07:33 -0600, "Miss Violette"

<[email hidden]>
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hhhmmm, will consider that, have been ogling a four door Dakota, Lee Joyce
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immediately out of the checking account. So in effect, it just saves

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business
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<G>
Joyce
On Fri, 5 Mar 2004 01:05:02 -0600, "Miss Violette"

<[email hidden]>
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>away, Lee Joyce <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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>> I do agree, but also use my credit card regularly. Actually, I use

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>> My son just received his very first credit card, figured it was time

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>> Credit cards aren't necessarily bad, you just have to know how to

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>> not think they are a never ending source of your own funds.
>>
>> Joyce
>>
>> On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 05:39:26 -0600, "Miss Violette"
><[email hidden]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >best thing DH and I ever did was get rid of all credit cards. Lee Joyce
>> ><[email hidden]> wrote in message
>> >"]news:[email hidden]...
>> >> Yup, I don't know what it is with people around here. They seem

to
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much
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>> >> >> Joyce
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>> >> >> >> On Tue, 2 Mar 2004 19:05:59 -0600, "skiur"

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>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >Julie
>> >> >> >> >
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>> >> >> >> >> On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 23:48:10 -0600, "skiur"
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