Track Worlds

Dave H said:

A few medals given out in tonight's first session, Womens 500TT saw

Natallia

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Tsylinskaya (Bielorussia) upset current World/Olymipic Champion/World

Record

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holder Anna Meares (Australia) for the Gold Medal with Yvonne

Hijgenaar

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(Netherlands) rounding out the podium. Since these two were of the

last 3 to

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ride, the podium wasn't decided till the very end. The Team Sprint
qualifying saw the top 4 teams all go under 45 sec. With the Brits,
Netherlands, France and Germany taking the top 4 spots, Germany took

the

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bronze from France, and in a real fast, real close final that wasn't

decided

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till last few meters, the Brits beat the Netherlands for the gold.

The

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points race was a blistering affair from the start, with several

riders

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getting a lap during the first 25 or 30 laps. A few more riders got

off and

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gained a lap and it looked like the top five or 8 places were fairly

set, it

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was just a matter of how they shuffled. Later in the race a few

riders not

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in contention sparked a surge in speed when they gained a lap and

that set

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off flurries of attacking. Juan Llaneras, (Spain) and a former world

champ

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was in 12th or 13th I think with like 8 points about 2/3 thru the

race. He

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made a huge late race effort to gain a lap and put himself in podium
contention the top five oir 8 spots shuffled with about 20 to go as

Guide

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Fulst was in the hunt for Gold most of the race found himself

scrambled to

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5th being leapfrogged by Christopher Newton (Great Britain) and

Ioannis

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Tamouridis (Greece) when they gained a lapthe top five rode out the

last 10

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or so laps and Volodymyr Rybin (Ukraine), Ioannis Tamouridis

(Greece), Juan

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Llaneras Rossello (Spain) became the podium and Christopher Newton

(Great

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Britain) and Guido Fulst (Germany) rounded out the 4th and 5th

spots. Colby

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Pearce (USA) just didn't seem to be in sync with himself, and ended

up 13th.

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Some of the personalities on hand were the recently retired Jen

Fiedler who

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I approached with a rising super junior female who has the last name

Fiedler

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and her older very good looking sister in tow. I asked Jens " Do you

speak

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English" , he replied "No" I then said " This is Catherine and

Cassandra

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Fiedler and they wanted to meet you". All of a sudden Jens started

speaking

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pretty darn clear English...It was pretty funny. Chris Boardman was

on hand

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in the GB pits. Tough for me to cruise around today as I was working

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event. Tomorrow I am off from working . Good events tomorrow, Women's

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sprints, Men's Keirin, Mens Kilo, Men's IP and the Women's points

race.

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Dave

Thanks Dave
Good fiedler story.
Bill C

"Dave H" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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A few medals given out in tonight's first session, Womens 500TT saw

Natallia

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<<snip>>
Dave

Thanks for the report. Keep 'em coming.

MagillaGorilla said:

Why not just send them out via email. Can you imagine if Jeff Jones
posted the daily news and results from every race here everyday?

Heaven forbid someone post something informative on RBR.

Bob

"Carl Sundquist" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:Rx41e.15679$Fy.2828@okepread04...

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As wonderful a source of information as cyclingnews is, I doubt Jeff is
waiting up every night to post results as they come in. Therefore Dave and
anyone else who throws in something about the event can make it more
timely
than cyclingnews. There's also personal experiences and different points
of
view that help to 'color' the event for those of us who can't see it for
ourselves.

Of course you already knew all that. If you expect us to play by your
rules,
you'll have to try much, much harder.

An extremely wild and controversial day at the track today. ( and as you
will see I know why the Keirin Repechage was re-ran and Cyclingnews doesn't)
The morning session opened with the Mens IP with Robert Bartko (Germany),
Sergi Escobar Roure (Spain and current World Champ) taking the top two
spots, followed by Levi Heimans (Netherlands) and Alexander Serov (Russia).
In the evenings fianl Bartko started off a bit slower than Escobar but the
big motor starting cranking and with a kilo to go Bartko came from as mush
as 3/10ths down to motor past Escobar and finish in 4.27.732 to Escobars'
4.29.930 .
The Kierin rounds were crazy with a couple of hard crashes one of which
happened to the USA's Christian Stahl when the rider from Puerto Rico had
his wheel swiped oput from under him and fell to the right in front of a
hard charging Stahl who T-Boned the rider split his LOOK frame into two
pieces and plowed head and shoulder first into the deck, Christian took some
time to actually start moving around and in the end waved to the crowd as he
was toted off on a stretcher to the hospital, looks like a broken collarbone
and a concussion. As the heats went on some of the favorites didn't make the
cut in their first rides, Tournant, Van Eijden, Dajka , to name a few lost
their first rides and had to try and make it through the long way. The 1st
round repechage had had some fireworks in heat 3 when Tournant seeing he
might have missed the move again, went ballistic over the top on the back
straight and was powering over the top of Ivan Vrba (Czech Republic) for the
lead going into trun 4 and the Czech made a quick right hand turn up track
and almost took Tournant down. The officials saw it and the Czech was
relegated. Now on to the controversial 4th heat of the reps. As we watched
the race unfold it was fairly normal but as I watched from my vantage point
I could see the lap cards. The motor pulled off on the back straight but as
the riders came around to the home straight the lap cards showed THREE to
go...oops something wrong, the riders went ahead but you could tell after
the next lap they knew something was wrong, no-one was sure what it was,
some thought it was the lap cards, but the Japanese rider sat up after what
he thought should have been the end, And Josiah Ng took the race. Well the
French lodged a complaint in defense of their rider Bourgain who said he
stopped racing because of the confusion, and the race was re-ridden later.
Mark Whitehead (who coaches Ng) went ballistic but not over the edge. Well I
happened to be privy to a tape of the race and saw that the lap cards were
indeed right BUT the Moto rider pulled off with 3.5 laps to go and NOT 2.5
laps. The race was re-ran with some bad blood between Ng and Bourgain with
Ng getting hooked and ridden off the very back by Bourgain and Bourgain
nailing the afterburners to win the race with Ng finishing 2nd and not
advancing. In reality there should have never have been a re-ride as the
race went the legal distance and the cards were proper and the bell was rung
with one to go. Tough break for Ng. In the other heat Tournant and Dajka hit
the deck hard with Tornant being stretchered into the infield and worked on
by the team doctors and Dajka looking as though he landed on his back and
sliding about 50 feet. That action set up a wild final for the evening with
Current World Champion Jamie Staff (Great Britain), Shane Kelly (Australia),
Barry Forde (Barbados), Jan Van Eijden (Germany), Teun Mulder (Netherlands)
and José Escuredo (Spain) Taking to the track. Staff likes to go long from
the back, Kelly CAN go long, Forde can change the outcome of a race most
definately, Van Eijden is a pit bull on wheels. As the race unfolded Staff,
after some bumping with Van Eijden made a move to the front before the motor
pulled off, on to Kelly's hip and past Forde as the moto pulled off all
hell broke lose as the pace went ballistic, there was no playing games here.
Kelly hit the Jets as well as Staff dropping into second. It looked like
Staff may take another rainbow home but Barry Forde camne over the top and
onto Staff's hip putting him in the box and Staff trying to bang Forde to
get out Faorde held his ground and Tenn Mulder came over the top in front of
Kelly and into the lead with one to go and never looked back, Forde and
Kelly tried to reel him him but he had the gap and Won by a length with
Barry Forde taking 2nd and Shane Kelly 3rd, Staff looked seriously
dissapointed in his pit.
The womens points race got the crowd going when Vera Carrara (Italy) took
ahard earned lap on the field. She was very close and starting to hurt badly
when the bell sounded for a sprint lap and the field stretched the distance
on her, she perservered and the field sat up allowing her to get the lap.
Several other riders scored points throughout the race and came close to
catch the Italian (within 3 points) she marked 2nd place for the last ten
laps and came home with the win.
The womens sprints went thru to the 1/4 finals today with some upsets and
some relegations. Last nights Gold medal 500TT rider Natallia Tsylinskaya
(Belarus) was relegated for hooking Kerrie Mears and ended up wining the
5th - 8th ride. Jennie Reed (USA) looked good ion her ride but just couldn't
get around her competition and was out after one ride.
The Kilo was a barn burner and saw the proverbial passing of the torch.
Riders were clicking off 1:02's and 1:03's When 200 Olympic Gold Medalist
Jason Queally (Great Britain) ripped off a new track record 1.01.230\, The
previous was set the the Dec 2004 World Cup by Theo Bos (Netherlands) at
1:01.7. The time stood the attack of Ben Kersten (Australia), Stefan Nimke
(Germany) Then Theo Bos (current World Sprint Champion and Former Junior
World Kilo Champion) came to the line. Bos didn't disssapoint and rode a
blistering fast 1.01.165 recapturing the track record. That left only one
rider, Current World/Olympic Champion Chris Hoy (Great Britain). I reeeealy
though Hoy would pull it off but he faded (which Bos didn't do) in the
closing meters to lose by just over a second ( 1.02.262 ) to Bos and ending
up 3rd behind his teamate Jason Queally .
Non racing personalities were slim today/tonight, The "Cheetah" was there,
Of course Hein Verbruggen but who cares about that.
Tomorrow is Women's Sprint finals, Mens 200TT and sprints, Mens scratch, The
Men's TP and the Women's IP...Later

Dave

Thanks for the report Dave. A couple of remarks:

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[keirin rounds] That action set up a wild final for the evening with
Current World Champion Jamie Staff (Great Britain), Shane Kelly (Australia),
Barry Forde (Barbados), Jan Van Eijden (Germany), Teun Mulder (Netherlands)
and José Escuredo (Spain) Taking to the track. Staff likes to go long from
the back, Kelly CAN go long, Forde can change the outcome of a race most
definately, Van Eijden is a pit bull on wheels. As the race unfolded Staff,
after some bumping with Van Eijden made a move to the front before the motor
pulled off, on to Kelly's hip and past Forde as the moto pulled off all
hell broke lose as the pace went ballistic, there was no playing games here.
Kelly hit the Jets as well as Staff dropping into second. It looked like
Staff may take another rainbow home but Barry Forde camne over the top and
onto Staff's hip putting him in the box and Staff trying to bang Forde to
get out Faorde held his ground and Teun Mulder came over the top in front of
Kelly and into the lead with one to go and never looked back, Forde and
Kelly tried to reel him him but he had the gap and Won by a length with
Barry Forde taking 2nd and Shane Kelly 3rd, Staff looked seriously
dissapointed in his pit.

Was Mulder only in front at 1 to go?! Oh man, it seemed like forever.
Maybe 1 and a quarter. At the back straight it became clear nobody would
touch him, incredible.

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[kilo] Then Theo Bos (current World Sprint Champion and Former Junior
World Kilo Champion) came to the line. Bos didn't disssapoint and rode a
blistering fast 1.01.165 recapturing the track record. That left only one
rider, Current World/Olympic Champion Chris Hoy (Great Britain). I reeeealy
though Hoy would pull it off but he faded (which Bos didn't do) in the
closing meters to lose by just over a second ( 1.02.262 ) to Bos and ending
up 3rd behind his teamate Jason Queally .

Hoy didn't fade in the closing meters! Or maybe he did, but the gap had
been growing gradually: +0.3, +0.7, +1.0 (by memory). Bos definitely
faded in the last lap compared to Queally.

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Ewoud Dronkert said:

Was Mulder only in front at 1 to go?! Oh man, it seemed like forever.
Maybe 1 and a quarter.

He hit the front on the back straight so more like 1.5

Dave H said:

The womens points race got the crowd going when Vera Carrara

(Italy) took

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ahard earned lap on the field. She was very close and starting to

hurt badly

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when the bell sounded for a sprint lap and the field stretched the

distance

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on her, she perservered and the field sat up allowing her to get the

lap.

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Several other riders scored points throughout the race and came close

to

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catch the Italian (within 3 points) she marked 2nd place for the last

ten

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laps and came home with the win.

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Dumbass -

Carrara seemed like the only woman who rode a smart race, the smartest
by far. Guerrero was more agressive, but didn't attack at the right
times. Bates was very strong and seemed to be very dumb. The rest of
the women were not aggressive, with the exception of Slyusareva who
didn't need to be since she was the quickest.

It's a good thing Carrara was in the race, otherwise it would have been
very lackluster.

Bos was so tired after his kilo. He seemed noticeably more wasted than
the other riders, trying to raise his arm to salute the crowd which was
giving him some big love, but not really able to keep it up there. Hoy,
by contrast, was able to sit up and play to the crowd.

How old is that Forde from Barbados? He looks like a kid in the face
and with his height, when he fills out, I'm guessing he's going to have
some major wattage. Dude mixed it up - one of the other riders punched
him in the hip after one of the qualifying rounds. Kid's got game. The
chicks dug him too. The contrast between the Barbados infield support
contingent (random shorts and t-shirts) and the rest of the teams
(sponsored matching outfits) was striking. Go Barbados!

K. Gringioni.

On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 21:19:18 -0600, "Carl Sundquist" <[email hidden]>

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As wonderful a source of information as cyclingnews is, I doubt Jeff is
waiting up every night to post results as they come in. Therefore Dave and
anyone else who throws in something about the event can make it more timely
than cyclingnews.

Didn't the UCI used to do some coverage themselves?

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Dave H said:

The womens points race got the crowd going when Vera Carrara

(Italy) took

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ahard earned lap on the field. She was very close and starting to

hurt badly

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when the bell sounded for a sprint lap and the field stretched the

distance

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on her, she perservered and the field sat up allowing her to get the

lap.

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Several other riders scored points throughout the race and came close

to

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catch the Italian (within 3 points) she marked 2nd place for the last

ten

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laps and came home with the win.

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Dumbass -

Carrara seemed like the only woman who rode a smart race, the smartest
by far. Guerrero was more agressive,

(snip)

Very True Carrara made the race exciting, Guerrerois far more agressive, but
her attacks never amount to anything.

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It's a good thing Carrara was in the race, otherwise it would have been
very lackluster.

Bos was so tired after his kilo. He seemed noticeably more wasted than
the other riders, trying to raise his arm to salute the crowd which was
giving him some big love, but not really able to keep it up there. Hoy,
by contrast, was able to sit up and play to the crowd.

Bos leaves it all on the track, after his kilo at Dec's World Cup, he was
practically carried down the stairs. He made his way to the podium to wait
for the awards ceremony where he promptly puked

How old is that Forde from Barbados? He looks like a kid in the face
and with his height, when he fills out, I'm guessing he's going to have
some major wattage. Dude mixed it up - one of the other riders punched
him in the hip after one of the qualifying rounds. Kid's got game. The
chicks dug him too. The contrast between the Barbados infield support
contingent (random shorts and t-shirts) and the rest of the teams
(sponsored matching outfits) was striking. Go Barbados!

I believe Barry is Late 20's and he is definately a chick favorite (he does
have some Euro stories) I wrenched for him at the World Cup here in L.A. He
is a one man show for Barbados and doesn't even have a pit box. He is well
known and liked by everyone on the circuit and spends most of the winter on
the Six Day sprint circuit. You are right his hat race was crazy, I thought
he was going down a couple of times, but he is a great bike handler and as
you seen not afraid to mix it up

Dave

MagillaGorilla said:

I doubt "Dave" is a better, faster, or more complete source
of results for a World Cup track event.

Dude,

Results aren't everything, unless you think the only thing
interesting about a track meet is the hundredths of a second
column. (Maybe you do - one can gain or lose a few hundredths
in the turns, after all.)

You lose this one - but if you want to keep arguing a lost cause,
go ahead. The pace of change in today's society is amazing -
you've gone from the next Ronde Champ to the next Tom Kunich in
less than a month.

Thanks Dave and Kurg for the eyewitness reports.

MagillaGorilla said:

I doubt "Dave" is a better, faster, or more complete source
of results for a World Cup track event.

Dude,

Results aren't everything, unless you think the only thing
interesting about a track meet is the hundredths of a second
column. (Maybe you do - one can gain or lose a few hundredths
in the turns, after all.)

You lose this one - but if you want to keep arguing a lost cause,
go ahead. The pace of change in today's society is amazing -
you've gone from the next Ronde Champ to the next Tom Kunich in
less than a month.

Thanks Dave and Kurg for the eyewitness reports.

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MagillaGorilla said:

I doubt "Dave" is a better, faster, or more complete source
of results for a World Cup track event.

Dude,

Results aren't everything, unless you think the only thing
interesting about a track meet is the hundredths of a second
column.

Dude,
There is nothing interesting about a track meet. It's akin to watching
hamsters in a wheel. Get a grip. Or better yet, get your grip off
your chubb.
-DA74

"DA74" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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Dude,
There is nothing interesting about a track meet. It's akin to watching
hamsters in a wheel. Get a grip. Or better yet, get your grip off
your chubb.
-DA74

Do you enjoy trying to be informative or just like to look at your words
posted on the NG?

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The Kilo was a barn burner and saw the proverbial passing of the torch.
Riders were clicking off 1:02's and 1:03's When 200 Olympic Gold Medalist

Is this flying or standing start?

Jay S. Hill said:

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The Kilo was a barn burner and saw the proverbial passing of the torch.
Riders were clicking off 1:02's and 1:03's When 200 Olympic Gold Medalist

Is this flying or standing start?

Standing. See
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sportacademy/hi/sa/special_events/cycling/newsid_3586000/3586129.stm
(links to other events from there).

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MagillaGorilla said:

I doubt "Dave" is a better, faster, or more complete source
of results for a World Cup track event.

Dude,

Results aren't everything, unless you think the only thing
interesting about a track meet is the hundredths of a second
column. (Maybe you do - one can gain or lose a few hundredths
in the turns, after all.)

You lose this one - but if you want to keep arguing a lost cause,
go ahead. The pace of change in today's society is amazing -
you've gone from the next Ronde Champ to the next Tom Kunich in
less than a month.

Thanks Dave and Kurg for the eyewitness reports.

Dear Hubble Telescope,

If the track were so good, Marty would still be going in circles around
it. I would rather watch laundry on the spin cycle.

When Lance goes for the hour on a hamster wheel, then I'll watch it.
Otherwise, it's just a county fair ride.

Thanks,

Magilla
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If the track were so good, Marty would still be going in circles around
it. I would rather watch laundry on the spin cycle.

When Lance goes for the hour on a hamster wheel, then I'll watch it.
Otherwise, it's just a county fair ride.

Thanks,

Magilla
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I think I'd rather ride an hour on two flat tires than watch some guy, no
matter who it is, ride an hour record.

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The pace of change in today's society is amazing -
you've gone from the next Ronde Champ to the next Tom Kunich in
less than a month.

ben has a way of putting things, i've noticed.

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Thanks Dave and Kurg for the eyewitness reports.

yep
h

Kurgan Gringioni said:

It's a good thing Carrara was in the race, otherwise it would have been
very lackluster.

I think I would have fallen asleep if not for her. I was very surprised
at how negative the racing was. Lots of lone attacks, never more than
two riders. A huge contrast from the Men's race which was super
aggressive from the gun. The Women's race was exciting as hell, but
there not that many riders attempting to make the race.

What I don't get is why they only qualify 17 riders and not more than
one from any country. You'd get a lot more action if you allowed more
riders to start and threw in some team strategy.

Bob Schwartz
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