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  1. Being a fan of gritstone edges, and having graduated on Dovestones
    (Saddleworth), Taxal Edge, a full circuit of Kinder, and the
    Baslow/Curbar/Froggat edges more recently, I had a go at Stanage last
    Sunday.

    Started from Hathersage in pouring rain, out came the recently reproofed
    jacket. Minus the zipper handle thing, probably somewhere in the depths of
    the washing machine. Cold, wet, windy day, and my jacket's broke.
    Hathersage's convenience store came to the rescue with a pack of safety
    pins.

    A short trek across the muddy fields brought us below the edge at Jacob's
    Ladder where we turned north and walked below the edge until it petered out
    at Stanage End, some marvellous scenery including the millstones ("ooh
    bring one home, it'll look nice in the living room", said the neighbour
    later, probably not thinking how you would get a millstone home), which
    then got even better when we clambered on to the edge itself to walk
    southwards along its length. By now the rain had stopped and the sun was
    shining through onto the Hope Valley, Kinder and its neighbours.

    Stanage was a lot quieter than I expected, except for the almost constant
    stream of landrovers crossing the track to Redmires Reservoir, and the
    grouse which would explode up out of nowhere every now and then. It wasn't
    until the far end we met some groups of climbers, then we crossed the
    Ringinglow road onto Burbage Edge, back to peace and quiet again.

    After Burbage we crossed the valley to Higger Tor, visited in less than
    ideal weather last year after Froggatt Edge. This time the sun was starting
    to disappear behind Mam Tor (or thereabouts!) so we got a move on down to
    the Ringinglow road again, and walked the last mile into lit-up Hathersage
    in the dark.

    It's days like that I love winter!

    Oh and next Sunday we're off to the Roaches for more of the same.

  2. On 2 Dec 2004 00:10:41 GMT, Iain Jones
    <[email hidden]> wrote:

    Great report, thanks!

    Best wishes,
    --
    ,,
    (**)PeeWiglet~~
    / \ / \

  3. Iain Jones said:

    A short trek across the muddy fields brought us below the edge at Jacob's
    Ladder where we turned north

    Ah! Thank you. I went up Jacob's Ladder a few years ago and was
    thinking about it last week. I couldn't for the life of me remember
    where it was, but it's all come back to me now.

    Good TR.

    Thanks
    Judith

  4. Try Bamford edge too, since the CROW access it's open to walkers!

    Lewis

  5. The message <[email hidden]>
    from Judith <[email hidden]> contains these words:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    A short trek across the muddy fields brought us below the edge at Jacob's
    Ladder where we turned north

    Quoted message said:

    Ah! Thank you. I went up Jacob's Ladder a few years ago and was
    thinking about it last week. I couldn't for the life of me remember
    where it was, but it's all come back to me now.

    Are you sure? The only Jacobs Ladder I can recall is on what used to be
    the alternative start to the Pennine Way before the Nanny State deemed a
    traverse across a little bit of central Kinder was too likely to stop
    potential PWers in their tracks.

    My tatty 1" doesn't indicate a Jacobs Ladder below Stanage but that is
    not to say there isn't one of course.

    --
    Roger Chapman so far this year 116 summits
    New - 88 (Marilyns 14, Sweats 5, Outlying Fells 76)
    Repeats - 28 (Marilyns 11, Sweats 21, Wainwrights 16, Outlying Fells 1)

  6. On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 22:48:38 GMT, Roger <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Ah! Thank you. I went up Jacob's Ladder a few years ago and was
    thinking about it last week. I couldn't for the life of me remember
    where it was, but it's all come back to me now.

    Are you sure? The only Jacobs Ladder I can recall is on what used to be
    the alternative start to the Pennine Way

    Well it was the mention of Hathersage which triggered the memory. I
    stayed in Hathersage (I think) and Edale before starting the Pennine
    Way.

    I don't know where Stanage is (never heard of it, in fact) but
    Hathersage and Jacob's Ladder seem to make sense in the same sentence!

    If it's the Jacob's Ladder that I am thinking of, it is a
    manufactured/protected path which consists of lots of man-made steps
    and ramps and, when you get tired [1], you can turn round and pretend
    to admire the lake down below.

    S'funny how all the places I have walked seem to have blended into one
    big hilly/boggy/foggy/sunny/rainy/energy-sapping yomp in my head .....
    so I could be wrong.

    Judith
    [1] Sorry, this isn't a concept you're familiar with, is it Roger?
    ;-)

  7. Judith said:

    you can turn round and pretend
    to admire the lake down below.

    Erm, I think I meant a stream and bridge, rather than a lake ....

    http://tinyurl.com/7xe7z

    Judith


  8. Quoted message said:

    If it's the Jacob's Ladder that I am thinking of, it is a
    manufactured/protected path which consists of lots of man-made steps
    and ramps and, when you get tired [1], you can turn round and pretend
    to admire the lake down below.

    S'funny how all the places I have walked seem to have blended into one
    big hilly/boggy/foggy/sunny/rainy/energy-sapping yomp in my head .....
    so I could be wrong.

    Judith
    [1] Sorry, this isn't a concept you're familiar with, is it Roger?
    ;-)


    The only Jacobs Ladder I know is the one onto Kinder, it is a lot of man
    made steps but there is no lake at the bottom only a stream with a bridge
    going over it.
    It`s quite a long walk from Hathersage to Jacob`s Ladder. Come to think of
    it, it must be a bit of an uphill slog from Hathersage to Stanage.
    Stanage Edge is one of the better places to walk in the Peak District I
    think, excellent views on a clear day.
    Summer weekends you can`t see the rocks for climbers..

  9. In message <[email hidden]>, Roger
    <[email hidden]> writes

    Quoted message said:

    The message <[email hidden]>
    from Judith <[email hidden]> contains these words:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    A short trek across the muddy fields brought us below the edge at Jacob's
    Ladder where we turned north

    Quoted message said:

    Ah! Thank you. I went up Jacob's Ladder a few years ago and was
    thinking about it last week. I couldn't for the life of me remember
    where it was, but it's all come back to me now.

    Are you sure? The only Jacobs Ladder I can recall is on what used to be
    the alternative start to the Pennine Way before the Nanny State deemed a
    traverse across a little bit of central Kinder was too likely to stop
    potential PWers in their tracks.

    My tatty 1" doesn't indicate a Jacobs Ladder below Stanage but that is
    not to say there isn't one of course.


    If there is, it ain't the real one, which is up from Edale towards Edale
    Cross and Kinder Low, as you say...
    --
    Gordon Harris

  10. Roger said:

    The message <[email hidden]>
    from Judith <[email hidden]> contains these words:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    A short trek across the muddy fields brought us below the edge at Jacob's
    Ladder where we turned north

    Quoted message said:

    Ah! Thank you. I went up Jacob's Ladder a few years ago and was
    thinking about it last week. I couldn't for the life of me remember
    where it was, but it's all come back to me now.

    Are you sure? The only Jacobs Ladder I can recall is on what used to be
    the alternative start to the Pennine Way before the Nanny State deemed a
    traverse across a little bit of central Kinder was too likely to stop
    potential PWers in their tracks.

    There's a Jacobs Ladder at Cheddar Gorge. Much more like a staircase than
    the large steps at Edale.

    --
    Help! I'm talking, and I can't shut up!

    Mail john rather than nospam...


  11. Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    If it's the Jacob's Ladder that I am thinking of, it is a
    manufactured/protected path which consists of lots of man-made steps
    and ramps and, when you get tired [1], you can turn round and pretend
    to admire the lake down below.

    <snip>

    Wy Wurrie said:

    The only Jacobs Ladder I know is the one onto Kinder, it is a lot of man
    made steps but there is no lake at the bottom only a stream with a bridge
    going over it.

    There are several climbs in the area that are called Jacob's Ladder.
    There is one up Kinder; another up Stanage Edge; one (if memory
    serves) near the southern margin of the Peak District National Park;
    and there may be more.

    Very confusing!

    Quoted message said:

    It`s quite a long walk from Hathersage to Jacob`s Ladder.

    It depends *which* Jacob's Ladder you're talking about.

    Quoted message said:

    Come to think of
    it, it must be a bit of an uphill slog from Hathersage to Stanage.

    No, it isn't. It's a fairly easy walk from Hathersage to Stanage - I
    did pretty much the walk described by the OP in an afternoon (30
    August this year). My route was a little over ten miles all told, and
    no really hard slog. The hardest climb on that route was (for me) up
    from Burbage rocks to Higger Tor.

    Quoted message said:

    Stanage Edge is one of the better places to walk in the Peak District I
    think, excellent views on a clear day.
    Summer weekends you can`t see the rocks for climbers..

    Both points agreed!

    Peter.

  12. (Apologies to anyone irritated by me following up my own post.)

    I've just pulled out my 1:25000 OS maps to find the grid references of
    the three Jacob's Ladders that I know in the Peak District. They are,
    with tenths estimated by eye, not measured:

    Stanage Edge SK240844
    Kinder SK087863
    Dove Dale SK14452

    The first of these is not named as Jacob's Ladder on the map, but both
    of the others are. I suspect that there might be other features
    bearing the same name, too. It is, after all, a fairly obvious
    biblical reference for a climb.

    Peter.

  13. "John Laird" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    There's a Jacobs Ladder at Cheddar Gorge.

    Which they try and charge you vast amounts of money to go up with an all
    inclusive ticket which takes in the caves as well. You can though get to
    the top from the other side and go down (and back up) for free.

  14. On 2/12/04 11:04 pm, in article [email hidden],

    Judith said:

    If it's the Jacob's Ladder that I am thinking of, it is a
    manufactured/protected path which consists of lots of man-made steps
    and ramps and, when you get tired [1], you can turn round and pretend
    to admire the lake down below.

    Memories are blending :-)

    Jacob's ladder is near Kinder/Edale.

    --
    Andy Howell
    Birmingham, UK

  15. AndyP said:

    "John Laird" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    There's a Jacobs Ladder at Cheddar Gorge.

    Which they try and charge you vast amounts of money to go up with an all
    inclusive ticket which takes in the caves as well. You can though get to
    the top from the other side and go down (and back up) for free.

    I've scrambled up the Gorge more than once, a) for fun, and b) to avoid
    paying ;-)

    --
    Marriage: begging for money for upgrades.

    Mail john rather than nospam...

  16. The message <[email hidden]>
    from Judith <[email hidden]> contains these words:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Are you sure? The only Jacobs Ladder I can recall is on what used to be
    the alternative start to the Pennine Way

    Quoted message said:

    Well it was the mention of Hathersage which triggered the memory. I
    stayed in Hathersage (I think) and Edale before starting the Pennine
    Way.

    Quoted message said:

    I don't know where Stanage is (never heard of it, in fact) but
    Hathersage and Jacob's Ladder seem to make sense in the same sentence!

    Stanage Edge, West of Sheffield. Not to be confused with Standedge
    encountered on day 2 of the Pennine Way.

    Quoted message said:

    If it's the Jacob's Ladder that I am thinking of, it is a
    manufactured/protected path which consists of lots of man-made steps
    and ramps and, when you get tired [1], you can turn round and pretend
    to admire the lake down below.

    Mirage? :-)

    Quoted message said:

    S'funny how all the places I have walked seem to have blended into one
    big hilly/boggy/foggy/sunny/rainy/energy-sapping yomp in my head .....
    so I could be wrong.

    I have that problem as well.

    Quoted message said:

    [1] Sorry, this isn't a concept you're familiar with, is it Roger?
    ;-)

    Only too familiar I am afraid. That is why, when I walk any distance in
    the hills, I walk at a pace that does not demand stops and don't waste
    energy stopping and starting (if I can avoid it).

    --
    Roger Chapman so far this year 116 summits
    New - 88 (Marilyns 14, Sweats 5, Outlying Fells 76)
    Repeats - 28 (Marilyns 11, Sweats 21, Wainwrights 16, Outlying Fells 1)

  17. Wy Wurrie said:

    it is a lot of man
    made steps but there is no lake at the bottom only a stream with a bridge
    going over it.

    Yes, that's what I was thinking of. I was getting Jacob's Ladder
    mixed up with the Devil's Kitchen!

    Judith

  18. "John Laird" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    I've scrambled up the Gorge more than once, a) for fun, and b) to avoid
    paying ;-)

    I used to like going up or down what I believe climbers call Shoots gully
    when my girlfriend first moved to Cheddar and I "discovered" it after a bit
    of exploration on one of our evening strolls along the top. But it lost a
    lot of its appeal when the bottom part got full up with loose rubble after
    one of the annual cliff clearance works.

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