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  1. I have summarised the 5 day walk into a few key points below. If
    anyone wants more detail or info on the experience then feel free to
    email me direct.

    Day 1. Marangu Gate to Mandara Huts ~ very easy walking through rain
    forest on well maintained path. Nice temperature under the trees and
    not too much sun. Approx 7 k covered in about 4 hours. One of the
    party badly bitten by Safari ants so watch where you sit on this
    section. Spent night sleeping on tables in dining room as park
    overbooked the huts !

    Day 2 Mandara Huts to Horombo Huts. Terrific days walking, 11 k in
    about 7 hours through scrublands again on easy paths. First signs of
    altitude kicking in as much breaking of wind took place, very amusing
    ! First views of Mawenzi and a glimpse of Kibo at the days end.

    Day 3 Horombo Huts to Kibo huts. Six took the "lower" route but
    three of us took the "high" route to Kibo huts by Zebra rock and the
    Mawenzi path. Mawenzi is STUNNING ! What a mountain close up, much
    more attractive then Kibo. Had lunch on the high slopes then down to
    the saddle and 6k of exposed alpine desert to cross to Kibo Huts,
    arrived about 4:30 pm, Cup of tea, plate of soup and off to bed at 6
    pm.

    Day 4 Left Kibo huts at midnight ( one of party did not start the
    climb this day due to altitude sickness ). A long and very slow
    ascent up the scree past Hans Meyer cave and through a beautiful
    sunrise to top out on the crater rim at Gilmans point. I arrived with
    one colleague about 7:30 am with 4 others about 30 minutes behind. (
    two more dropped out on the ascent ). Paula Crewe and myself headed
    out to Uhuru with the rest satisfied with reaching Gilmans. the
    summit glaciers were superb and the view back to Mawenzi over the rim
    were incredible. Meru was poking through the cloud base and the whole
    vista was excellent. sadly we turned to descend and had great fun
    running the scree on the way down to Kibo. A quick break and back
    towards Horombo again this time by the lower route. Fantastic storm
    this night with ball lightning and thunder immediately overhead
    followed by massive and long downpour. Woke next morning to see Kibo
    covered in snow from top to bottom. Must have been a hard ascent that
    night !

    Day 5. Horombo back to Mandara for lunch and the park gates around
    2:30pm

    What a fantastic experience and a trip of a lifetime and I was very
    fortunate not to have a single symptom of AMS and therefore enjoyed
    every moment.. With respect to another thread on the ng this was a
    charity event but of a non commercial basis. Our trip expanses were
    donated by mobile phone manufacturer Nokia ( £10,000) who also
    supplied £6,000 of branded good quality outdoor clothing. This means
    that every penny of our fundraising is available for the partnership
    charity ( National Autistic Society ). To date our fundraisng has
    exceeded £32,000 which is being doubled by the Vodafone Foundation.
    With ongoing fundraising until our mid march cut off we still hope to
    raise almost £100,000 for the charity.

    Further detail available re food, clothing, equipment etc should
    anyone want more, just ask

    --
    Cheers
    Graham

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    If you wish to sponsor me and my colleagues for the Vodafone / NAS
    Kilimanjaro climb in January 2005 please visit
    http://www.justgiving.com/VFKilimanjaro ~ Thank You.

  2. In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] (Graham Ingram) wrote:

    nice summary.
    firstly, well done for making the top. Its a big hill no matter how you
    measure it!
    Secondly, very good that you didn't have altitude symptoms. You must have
    got the idea of pacing and breathing right. The first time at high
    altitude is always interesting. Some people just can't do it. others are
    fine. so it is encouraging that it went well for you.

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    ( one of party did not start the
    climb this day due to altitude sickness ). I arrived with
    one colleague about 7:30 am with 4 others about 30 minutes behind. (
    two more dropped out on the ascent ).


    IMHO, the reason three dropped out was that you guys went up in two few
    days. Almost 6000m is way to high to go in 3 days, with a summit attempt
    that night. After all your months of preparation, one day more might have
    gotten those three to the top, do you think?
    When I took my daughter up, we summited on day 6. I had added an
    acclimisation day just to be sure since she had never been to even 4000m
    before. Worked fine and she had no problems.
    So it is more impressive that you had no problems, but too bad you didn't
    have more time for the others to have a better chance.
    Something to think about for the others in this NG that are wanting to go
    there.
    cheers,
    Rob

  3. On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 17:21 +0000 (GMT Standard Time),

    (Rob Milne) said:

    IMHO, the reason three dropped out was that you guys went up in two few
    days. Almost 6000m is way to high to go in 3 days, with a summit attempt
    that night. After all your months of preparation, one day more might have
    gotten those three to the top, do you think?
    When I took my daughter up, we summited on day 6. I had added an
    acclimisation day just to be sure since she had never been to even 4000m
    before. Worked fine and she had no problems.
    So it is more impressive that you had no problems, but too bad you didn't
    have more time for the others to have a better chance.
    Something to think about for the others in this NG that are wanting to go
    there.

    From what I've read only around 30-35% of those who attempt
    Kilimanjaro reach the true summit, Uhuru. On the trip I did, which
    involved Mount Meru first, summiting Kili on Day 9 of the whole
    expedition the success rate is more like 85%. Only one of 13 in our
    party failed to reach Uhuru. As Rob says after all the time, effort
    and cash spent on such a project it seems a shame that most people
    waste it being in too much of a hurry.

    John D.
    --
    John Dawson at home in Kendal, Cumbria.
    Lake District Walks Web Pages: http://www.lakedistrictwalks.com/
    Kilimanjaro Trip: http://www.lakedistrictwalks.com/kilimanjaro/

  4. "John Dawson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 17:21 +0000 (GMT Standard Time),

    (Rob Milne) said:

    IMHO, the reason three dropped out was that you guys went up in two


    few

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    days. Almost 6000m is way to high to go in 3 days, with a summit


    attempt

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    that night. After all your months of preparation, one day more


    might have

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    gotten those three to the top, do you think?
    When I took my daughter up, we summited on day 6. I had added an
    acclimisation day just to be sure since she had never been to even


    4000m

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    before. Worked fine and she had no problems.
    So it is more impressive that you had no problems, but too bad you


    didn't

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    have more time for the others to have a better chance.
    Something to think about for the others in this NG that are wanting


    to go

    Quoted message said:
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    there.

    From what I've read only around 30-35% of those who attempt
    Kilimanjaro reach the true summit, Uhuru. On the trip I did, which
    involved Mount Meru first, summiting Kili on Day 9 of the whole
    expedition the success rate is more like 85%. Only one of 13 in our
    party failed to reach Uhuru. As Rob says after all the time, effort
    and cash spent on such a project it seems a shame that most people
    waste it being in too much of a hurry.

    I wholeheartedly agree with both Rob and John, our attempt was too
    fast ! Ironically enough the only two of the team to argue for the
    extra day at Horombu were myself and Paula, the two eventual
    summiteers. We are also the only two who regularly walk the mountains
    and therefore were most comfortable in that environment. However the
    rest of the group took the view that the extra day acclimatisation
    could tire them further and impact on the energy they would have for
    the summit attempt.A flawed logic when considering the effect of
    altitude but there was a naivety amongst those who do not walk hills
    regularly that this hill was going to be easy. I also have to question
    the motivation of the group when it started to get tougher towards the
    end of day 3 and certainly on day 4. Without the absolute drive and
    determination to get there it was no real surprise that we had the
    number of drop outs that we did. Thankfully I had a very good
    guide, and very good company in Paula, which made all the difference
    when we were reduced to the final two at the summit.

    My own personal targets were reached on the trek and I was very happy
    to reach Uhuru without any problems even without the additional day.
    I would end be echoing both Rob and John again and say that if you are
    going take as much time as possible, apart from helping the
    acclimatisation it is much too good a mountain to hurry.

    Cheers
    Graham

  5. In article <[email hidden]>,

    (Graham Ingram) said:

    I wholeheartedly agree with both Rob and John, our attempt was too
    fast !


    A good lesson for all the others that come behind you ...
    glad YOU made it!
    Rob

  6. In article <[email hidden]>,

    (Graham Ingram) said:

    I wholeheartedly agree with both Rob and John, our attempt was too
    fast !


    A good lesson for all the others that come behind you ...
    glad YOU made it!
    Rob

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