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  1. Original post
    Andy Crawford
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    The New Millennium path, funded through public appeal, begins at the south
    end of the car park and ascends at an easy angle, winding its way across the
    moorland and up the hillside to 2,880 feet/874m from where it becomes
    rougher and less distinct. The route rises along the rocky backbone of the
    mountain and, after a slightly steeper climb, the angle of ascent eases off
    again and the summit, a mass of large, angular, quartzite boulders comes
    into view.

    Negotiating the boulders over the rough terrain is something of a challenge
    and extreme care should be taken to avoid injury.

    The summit is mostly great slabs of rock and is marked by a cairn. There was
    once a triangulation pillar on the summit but it has now gone.

    Take time to savour the views before returning by the ascent route.

    Distance: 6½ miles/10.5km.

    Map: OS 1:50,000 Landranger Sheet 51 or 52 or 1:25,000 Explorer Sheet 386

    Start/Finish: Braes o' Foss car park Grid Ref NN753557. The public toilets
    here are closed in winter.

    Grading: A straight-forward mountain ascent suitable for fit adults and
    older children, many youngsters start their Munro 'bagging' on Schiehallion
    at a very early age.

    For more information and pictures visit:

    http://www.chiadfhear.co.uk/main/walking/walks/Schiehallion.htm

    --
    Andy Crawford
    www.chiadfhear.co.uk

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  2. Phil Cook
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    Andy Crawford said:

    For more information and pictures visit:

    http://www.chiadfhear.co.uk/main/walking/walks/Schiehallion.htm

    404 error. File not found.
    --
    Phil Cook looking north over the park to the "Westminster Gasworks"

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  3. Andy Crawford
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    Phil Cook typed:

    404 error. File not found.

    Sorry, my apologies ... will make the website later tomorrow!

    Watch this space *<:-)

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    Andy Crawford
    www.chiadfhear.co.uk

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  4. Fran
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    [email hidden] said...

    Quoted message said:
    Andy Crawford said:

    For more information and pictures visit:

    http://www.chiadfhear.co.uk/main/walking/walks/Schiehallion.htm

    404 error. File not found.


    Likewise.
    --
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    probably the day that they start making vacuum cleaners."
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  5. Roger
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    The message <[email hidden]>
    from "Andy Crawford" <[email hidden]> contains these words:

    Quoted message said:

    Distance: 6½ miles/10.5km.

    Quoted message said:

    Map: OS 1:50,000 Landranger Sheet 51 or 52 or 1:25,000 Explorer Sheet 386

    Quoted message said:

    Start/Finish: Braes o' Foss car park Grid Ref NN753557. The public toilets
    here are closed in winter.

    Quoted message said:

    Grading: A straight-forward mountain ascent suitable for fit adults and
    older children, many youngsters start their Munro 'bagging' on Schiehallion
    at a very early age.

    Should that grading be 'suitable for unfit adults'? My 1" doesn't have
    any path marked on it but the obvious line looks no more than 6 miles
    and 2500 feet of ascent - a 3 hour bimble.

    --
    Roger Chapman so far this year 97 summits
    New - 69 (Marilyns 14, Sweats 5, Outlying Fells 57)
    Repeats - 28 (Marilyns 11, Sweats 21, Wainwrights 16, Outlying Fells 1)

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  6. Phil Cook
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    Roger said:

    The message <[email hidden]>
    from "Andy Crawford" <[email hidden]> contains these words:

    Quoted message said:

    Distance: 6½ miles/10.5km.

    Quoted message said:

    Map: OS 1:50,000 Landranger Sheet 51 or 52 or 1:25,000 Explorer Sheet 386

    Quoted message said:

    Start/Finish: Braes o' Foss car park Grid Ref NN753557. The public toilets
    here are closed in winter.

    Quoted message said:

    Grading: A straight-forward mountain ascent suitable for fit adults and
    older children, many youngsters start their Munro 'bagging' on Schiehallion
    at a very early age.

    Should that grading be 'suitable for unfit adults'? My 1" doesn't have
    any path marked on it but the obvious line looks no more than 6 miles
    and 2500 feet of ascent - a 3 hour bimble.

    The obvious line became a peaty quagmire a la Pennine Way. I almost
    stood on a hen ptarmigan on it in 1996 coming down from my first
    Mu*r*. Little did I realise what I was getting into.

    The *Millennium* path was built in er... 2000 so it's hardly going to
    feature on a one inch map c.1957 is it? The old path is shown on the
    second series 1:50k and the 1:25k available on the OS Get-A-Map site.
    --
    Phil Cook looking north over the park to the "Westminster Gasworks"

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  7. Duncan Gray
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    "Phil Cook" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Roger said:

    The message <[email hidden]>
    from "Andy Crawford" <[email hidden]> contains these words:

    Quoted message said:

    Distance: 6½ miles/10.5km.

    Quoted message said:

    Map: OS 1:50,000 Landranger Sheet 51 or 52 or 1:25,000 Explorer Sheet


    386

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    Start/Finish: Braes o' Foss car park Grid Ref NN753557. The public


    toilets

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    here are closed in winter.

    Quoted message said:

    Grading: A straight-forward mountain ascent suitable for fit adults and
    older children, many youngsters start their Munro 'bagging' on


    Schiehallion

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    at a very early age.

    Should that grading be 'suitable for unfit adults'? My 1" doesn't have
    any path marked on it but the obvious line looks no more than 6 miles
    and 2500 feet of ascent - a 3 hour bimble.

    The obvious line became a peaty quagmire a la Pennine Way. I almost
    stood on a hen ptarmigan on it in 1996 coming down from my first
    Mu*r*. Little did I realise what I was getting into.

    The *Millennium* path was built in er... 2000 so it's hardly going to
    feature on a one inch map c.1957 is it? The old path is shown on the
    second series 1:50k and the 1:25k available on the OS Get-A-Map site.

    There's a photo showing what the new path is like at
    http://homepage.ntlworld.com/duncolm/schiehallion_path.jpg

    The line of it traverses away from the car park to the foot of the ridge and
    then follows the line of the ridge, rather than the old "straight up a
    diagonal line" path which could be seen for miles.

    The JMT Glasgow Group are planning an outing next spring to send a party up
    each of seven recognised routes to the summit.

    --
    Duncan Gray

    www.duncolm.co.uk
    also The Mountaineering Council of Scotland
    www.mountaineering-scotland.org.uk

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  8. Andy Crawford
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    Duncan Gray typed:

    <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    There's a photo showing what the new path is like at
    http://homepage.ntlworld.com/duncolm/schiehallion_path.jpg

    The line of it traverses away from the car park to the foot of the
    ridge and then follows the line of the ridge, rather than the old
    "straight up a diagonal line" path which could be seen for miles.

    The JMT Glasgow Group are planning an outing next spring to send a
    party up each of seven recognised routes to the summit.

    Thanks Duncan. I see you got a good day to 'bag' Schiehallion :-)
    Nice pic ... shows a section of the new path that's been 'paved'.
    Congratulations to the workers who laid down the new route. :-)
    Look out for my pic selection later today!
    --
    Andy Crawford
    www.chiadfhear.co.uk

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  9. Mcploppy ©
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    Andy Crawford typed:
    <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    For more information and pictures visit:

    http://www.chiadfhear.co.uk/main/walking/walks/Schiehallion.htm

    Websuite Updated :-).......
    --
    *McPloppy ©*

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  10. druidh
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    "Andy Crawford" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Duncan Gray typed:

    <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    There's a photo showing what the new path is like at
    http://homepage.ntlworld.com/duncolm/schiehallion_path.jpg

    The line of it traverses away from the car park to the foot of the
    ridge and then follows the line of the ridge, rather than the old
    "straight up a diagonal line" path which could be seen for miles.

    The JMT Glasgow Group are planning an outing next spring to send a
    party up each of seven recognised routes to the summit.

    Thanks Duncan. I see you got a good day to 'bag' Schiehallion :-)
    Nice pic ... shows a section of the new path that's been 'paved'.
    Congratulations to the workers who laid down the new route. :-)
    Look out for my pic selection later today!
    --

    Without trying to do down the efforts of the folk who did this, can I just
    say that I hate these paths! I don't mean from an aesthetic point of view
    (they're questionable, but so much better than the sort of mess that was
    there before). I actually find them uncomfortable to descend on. Too much
    knee-jarring. And in the winter they ice over too easily. Go back and take
    that photo next year to see the muddy trail down each side.

    druidh

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  11. RJ Webb
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    Quoted message said:

    Without trying to do down the efforts of the folk who did this, can I just
    say that I hate these paths! I don't mean from an aesthetic point of view
    (they're questionable, but so much better than the sort of mess that was
    there before). I actually find them uncomfortable to descend on. Too much
    knee-jarring. And in the winter they ice over too easily. Go back and take
    that photo next year to see the muddy trail down each side.

    Cannot possibly b eworse than the old mud trench. Remember the the
    hills are there for others as well. Perhaps the other tourists dont
    want to see our mess in their views. Time Carn Liath (Beinn a'Ghlo)
    was sorted. Even 20 years ago that scar , now visible from the Ochils
    BTW, was far worse than any pitched path to walk down.

    Everyone is free not to climb Schiehallion - and even if you do want
    to the hill "best looked at but not climbed" there are other routes,
    some that need wresting back from the gomls.

    Richard Webb

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  12. Jhimmy
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    Oh, isn't that a nice path, I could almost walk up Schielhallion again -
    this time free from mud and rock!

    Jhimmy.

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  13. RJ Webb
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    Jhimmy said:

    Oh, isn't that a nice path, I could almost walk up Schielhallion again -
    this time free from mud and rock!

    You wish...

    Plenty of rock further up... Would say go after snow, but its always
    windblasted...

    Richard Webb

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  14. Simon Caldwell
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    (RJ Webb) said:


    Cannot possibly b eworse than the old mud trench. Remember the the
    hills are there for others as well. Perhaps the other tourists dont
    want to see our mess in their views. Time Carn Liath (Beinn a'Ghlo)
    was sorted.

    I'd rather they sorted that than 'improved' paths where there was no
    problem. The latest that they;ve ruined is down by Cautley Spout in
    the Howgills. When I last did it about 3 years ago it was a pleasant
    steep path, loose in a couple of places but mostly still covered by
    grass. 3 weeks ago I was saddened to see they've built a new stone
    path all the way down. Which since it was covered with ice at the
    time was rather dangerous, as well as being visible from a long way
    away, which the old line never was.

    Maybe we could have a whip round to but some one-way train tickets to
    take the path builders somewhere they might do some good.

    --
    York Alpine Club - http://www.yorkalpineclub.org.uk
    Recent Photos - http://climbing.me.uk
    Old Photos - http://www.simon-caldwell.co.uk
    My Brother's Photos - http://www.caldwellcreations.co.uk

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