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  1. On Friday (January 2nd 2004), armed with information from the Internet on Mountain Hares in the
    Peak District, and even a grid reference from where they could be seen (thank you, Gordon), I drove
    up to the Snake Pass and parked beside the road where the Pennine Way crossed it. The forecast for
    Friday had been a clear sky, but as I set off along the footpath, no sunshine penetrated the low
    grey cloud anywhere.

    The first section of path across the moor was deep in snow and slush, when very little could be seen
    on either side, but as the path rose towards Alport Low, the going got better and the landscape
    around me became more wintery.

    The telephoto lens and tripod for photographing the hares was in my rucksack, and I had on the
    camera a Sigma 14mm lens which I have recently purchased. Wonderful to be able to take true wide-
    angle pictures again - my digital SLR camera had transformed my previous shortest lens (28mm) into a
    normal lens, and I have had to resort to my old film camera for anything wider.

    Around Alport Low, I began to see hare tracks with increasing frequency, though none of them
    looked fresh.

    As I made my way around Hern Clough, visibility worsened considerably as I met the base of the
    cloud, and a light sleet/snow floated in the air. After a while, I decided that continuing to Hern
    Stones, which I was going to use as a viewpoint for hare spotting, was going to be no better in the
    conditions than where I was, so I moved away from the footpath and ate my snack (ryvita and cheese
    slices - Atkins diet).

    I then spent some time moving around quietly among the heather hummocks, with binoculars getting
    increasingly wet, with not a single hare to keep me company.

    Eventually, I decided that enough was enough, and retraced my steps (and lots of other people's!)
    back along the Pennine Way. I took my time, delighted by the strange patterns and shapes which the
    snow revealed and threw into relief amongst the peat hags, and attempting to capture some images
    which did justice to the bleak but strangely beautiful landscape around me.

    As I slipped and slid back down the path, the weather forecast performed its magic. A small
    discontinuity in the greyness above Kinder before me gradually deepened and extended. The edges
    became wispy and lo - small patches of blue sky appeared! By the time I got back to the car, they
    had sealed up again and greyness ruled.

    Pictures (taken with the Sigma 14mm) can be seen at :
    cheshirewildlife.co.ukindex.htm

    Pat

    Pat Bennett From Cheshire in the U.K. [email hidden] www.cheshirewildlife.co.uk

  2. Pat Bennett wrote

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    I then spent some time moving around quietly among the heather hummocks, with binoculars getting
    increasingly wet, with not a single hare to keep me company.

    Ah, that's because you were in the wrong place. We were up there on Wednesday and we saw five
    hares on the moorland above Westend and below Bleaklow Stones. There is a large, fenced off area
    of protected moorland and they were all in there. There are also a lot of hares on the slopes of
    Margery Hill on Derwent Edge. They are very tolerant of humans and you can approach to within,
    say, 30ft.

    Chris
    --
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  3. On Sat, 03 Jan 2004 23:48:33 GMT, [email hidden]

    (Pat Bennett) said:

    On Friday (January 2nd 2004), armed with information from the Internet on Mountain Hares in the
    Peak District, and even a grid reference from where they could be seen

    <snip>

    Better luck next time!

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    Please sponsor me for the London Marathon at: justgiving.comlondon2004

  4. Pat Bennett said:

    Pictures (taken with the Sigma 14mm) can be seen at :
    cheshirewildlife.co.ukindex.htm

    Interesting pics. Not your average landscapes.

    So how do you find the new lens? The pics look fine but you can't really tell at such a small size.
    I think I read somewhere that it's a bit soft on the edges, but maybe that's only a problem with
    35mm. I don't suppose you've tried it on a 35mm camera?

    Paul
    --
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  5. On Sat, 03 Jan 2004 23:48:33 GMT, [email hidden] (Pat Bennett)

    Quoted message said:


    Around Alport Low, I began to see hare tracks with increasing frequency, though none of them
    looked fresh.


    I have often seen them below the Downfall. If the cloud is low or conditions are poor come up from
    Hayfield past the reservoir.

    Alex.

  6. Paul Saunders <[email hidden]> wrote

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    AndyP said:

    Also saw a squirrel on top of Snowdon once which isn't exactly what you'd think of as typically
    appealing terrain for a squirrel.

    I once saw a fox on the rocks next to the sea on the Gower coast, below steep cliffs. I wonder what
    it was doing down there.


    I saw a fox run up and down my garden path the other night about
    10:00pm. I think it was an urban fox, it had a white polo neck jumper and a smart sports jacket.

    It is quite a regular visitor, and I occasionally leave any chicken or turkey remains out for it,
    because it has a lean and hungry look, nothing like the cuddly wild-life photos you see in mags.
    --
    Gordon

  7. Chris Gilbert <[email hidden]> wrote

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    Pat Bennett wrote

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    I then spent some time moving around quietly among the heather hummocks, with binoculars getting
    increasingly wet, with not a single hare to keep me company.

    Ah, that's because you were in the wrong place. We were up there on Wednesday and we saw five hares
    on the moorland above Westend and below Bleaklow Stones.

    The trouble is that the 'right place moves, because it's on legs! Paul saw them also last year near
    Hern Stones.

    Quoted message said:

    There is a large, fenced off area of protected moorland and they were all in there. There are also
    a lot of hares on the slopes of Margery Hill on Derwent Edge. They are very tolerant of humans and
    you can approach to within, say, 30ft.


    Pity you didn't take a few photos, I've never seen them as close as that. ;-)
    --
    Gordon

  8. In message <[email hidden]>, Tim Jackson
    <[email hidden]> writes

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    Peter Ward wrote on Sun, 4 Jan 2004 20:22:56 -0000....

    Quoted message said:

    I think this one might have been partially blind - its eyes were a strange colour and it only
    moved away when it heard me make a slight movement.

    Albino? Don't know if you get them in hares, though.


    Mix up your toses?

    --
    Martin Richardson
    216/284 Munros (34/34 'Furths'😉
    217/89 Donalds 397/1552 Marilyns 439/439 Nuttalls

  9. Martin Richardson <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    In message <[email hidden]>, Tim Jackson
    <[email hidden]> writes

    Quoted message said:

    Peter Ward wrote on Sun, 4 Jan 2004 20:22:56 -0000....

    Quoted message said:

    I think this one might have been partially blind - its eyes were a strange colour and it only
    moved away when it heard me make a slight movement.

    Albino? Don't know if you get them in hares, though.


    Mix up your toses?

    Most likely explanation for a rabbit or hare letting anyone within a few yards. We did sit and watch
    some very young bunnies hopping around near a warren on the bank of the Wharfe in errrr Wharfedale
    as we ate lunch, but as soon as we moved they vanished.
    --
    Gordon

  10. Chris Gilbert <[email hidden]> wrote

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    Fran wrote

    Quoted message said:

    Apart from large birds of prey, of course...

    Well, I wish etc etc but not 'round here. We have precious few Buzzards, those that we do have
    stick to the White Peak and don't venture up that way.

    I was amazed at the number of Turkey Vultures we saw in Cambria on the Californian coast. They were
    soaring above the treetops in huge numbers like crows. I thought they were buzzards but my daughter
    corrected me.
    --
    Gordon

  11. In message <[email hidden]>, Chris Gilbert
    <[email hidden]> writes

    Quoted message said:

    AndyP wrote

    Quoted message said:

    Buzzards are a major success story in a lot of areas. Very rare 20-25


    years

    Quoted message said:

    ago but common as [censored] nowadays.

    A few years ago you could pretty much draw a line across the country from Bristol to the Humber.

    Quoted message said:


    That is pretty much a line I avoid crossing (with a slight detour around Derbyshire and the northern
    part of Staffordshire) so I wouldn't be able to comment on the bird population. Anyway, it looks as
    if that area is all going to be swamped by Milton Keynes.

    --
    Martin Richardson
    216/284 Munros (34/34 'Furths'😉
    217/89 Donalds 397/1552 Marilyns 439/439 Nuttalls

  12. In article <[email hidden]>, Gordon <[email hidden]> writes

    Quoted message said:

    I saw a fox run up and down my garden path the other night about
    10:00pm. I think it was an urban fox, it had a white polo neck jumper and a smart sports jacket.

    BOOM! BOOM!
    --
    Bill Grey billboy.co.ukbillboy.co.uk

  13. In article <[email hidden]>, ste mc © <[email hidden]> writes

    Quoted message said:

    Out of interest, I thought I'd let you know that the tip way down in the list at position number
    101, is called 'Take Control.' It's advising people to try using Manual mode, and the accompanying
    picture has the caption: "Go manual and start wearing the trousers in your relationship with your
    camera." What a crazy tip that is! ;-)

    Written by an old photographer who doesn't wa..........Oh what the Hell
    - never mind. :-)
    --
    Bill Grey billboy.co.ukbillboy.co.uk

  14. In article <[email hidden]>, ste mc © <[email hidden]> writes

    Quoted message said:

    Out of interest, I thought I'd let you know that the tip way down in the list at position number
    101, is called 'Take Control.' It's advising people to try using Manual mode, and the accompanying
    picture has the caption: "Go manual and start wearing the trousers in your relationship with your
    camera." What a crazy tip that is! ;-)

    There was a young man called Otto When taking a rather nice photo. All this Hocus Pocus About Manual
    Focus Persuaded him to take it on Auto.
    --
    Bill Grey billboy.co.ukbillboy.co.uk

  15. W. D. Grey <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, ste mc © <[email hidden]> writes

    Quoted message said:

    Out of interest, I thought I'd let you know that the tip way down in the list at position number
    101, is called 'Take Control.' It's advising people to try using Manual mode, and the accompanying
    picture has the caption: "Go manual and start wearing the trousers in your relationship with your
    camera." What a crazy tip that is! ;-)

    There was a young man called Otto When taking a rather nice photo. All this Hocus Pocus About
    Manual Focus Persuaded him to take it on Auto.

    Is it true Bill that you have to pay more for a camera which you can focus manually? Ha Ha Ha!
    --
    Gordon

  16. In message <[email hidden]>, Pat Bennett
    <[email hidden]> writes

    Quoted message said:
    ste mc © said:


    "Pat Bennett" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    I know! ;-) The funny thing is, after posting one of the 'manual v's auto' posts to Paul, I
    actually went out that night and took some photos of the Lowry Centre in Salford Quays, using
    Manual mode! Using AV mode, I couldn't get a long enough shutter speed on f8.0 to make the
    lighting as bright and colourful as I wanted, and using TV mode, the aperture was too big for the
    depth of field I wanted. The shot is overexposed in places, but when I was playing around with
    different combinations and settings, the ones that weren't overexposed were far too dark, so I
    tried found a compromise. I present a 'manual' photo, but ssshhh, don't let Paul know! ;-)
    sm9.co.uklowry.jpg

    That's a nice shot, Ste, and just the kind of shot that needs manual! Wonderful building, the Lowry
    Centre - been there a number of times.


    I was there only last night.

    --
    Martin Richardson
    216/284 Munros (34/34 'Furths'😉
    217/89 Donalds 397/1552 Marilyns 439/439 Nuttalls

  17. In message <[email hidden]>, ste mc © <[email hidden]> writes

    Quoted message said:

    the Trafford Centre lit all with these blue lights, it's very pretty for a shopping centre.

    Um - I think you need to get out in the countryside a bit more :-)

    --
    Martin Richardson
    216/284 Munros (34/34 'Furths'😉
    217/89 Donalds 397/1552 Marilyns 439/439 Nuttalls

  18. ste mc © <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:


    The Manual shots were definitely better than the Semi-Auto shots, that's for sure, though trust me
    when I say this doesn't mean much! Yes, the building is very nice, with a very brightly coloured
    interior too! (hard on the eyes!) I was going to take some photos from on the bridge, but a gang of
    noisy youths were heading my way, so I promptly put the camera way and made a swift retreat. But
    I'll return one day...

    And whilst I'm thinking of Manchester, I also fancy taking some night shots of the Trafford
    Centre from the M60 motorway (between junctions 9 and 10), with traffic trails wizzing past. But
    the only place I can think of to take them from is the hard shoulder, which wouldn't be the
    saftest option! :-s


    You mighty like to get a shot of one of the best sunset views in my area.

    Just as you approach the M67/M60 roundabout you go over a rise, which must be the high point of the
    area, and the sunset colours over Manchester are spectacular, probably due to the dirty air. ;-)

    The problem is the same though...
    --
    Gordon

  19. In message <[email hidden]>, Rifleman <[email hidden]> writes

    Quoted message said:

    "Martin Richardson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    216/284 Munros (34/34 'Furths'😉
    32/89 Donalds 397/1552 Marilyns 439/439 Nuttalls

    Pardon my ignorance as a member of the Junior Mountaineering Club of Scotland for 18 years - what
    the f**k is a "Nuttall"?


    One of a married couple who wrote a couple of guides to all the 2000 foot hills in England and
    Wales. (Now wait for arguments from others about whether they did list all the hills or not).

    --
    Martin Richardson
    216/284 Munros (34/34 'Furths'😉
    217/89 Donalds 397/1552 Marilyns 439/439 Nuttalls

  20. Rifleman <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    what the f**k is a "Nuttall"?


    No, it isn't.
    --
    Gordon

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