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  1. Drove up to Glen Ridding from St Helens in mist and cloud.
    Cleared over the Kirstone. Started walk to 'the Hole in the
    Wall', via Lantys Tarn. Watched as cloud poured over the col
    between Fairfield and Dollywaggon Pike. Eventually a cloud
    level formed at 'the Hole in the Wall' height. Striding Edge
    in not too bad condition if the ridge top was used. The path
    looked bad in places. Banked up snow and ice on it for long
    stretches. Fortunately no wind to speak of so the ridge top
    was OK. Snow falling all the time but not much. The step
    down at the end of Striding Edge was, again OK, provide care
    was taken, bit of snow about on the holds but nothing too
    serious. The climb up onto Helvellyn itself was fine. Bits
    of snow about but most with holds kicked in. Snow not
    suitable for step kicking today when there weren't any holds
    on my direct route up so used an ice axe. Didn't stop on the
    summit, too cold and nothing to see. Made for Swirral. Found
    a layer of snow at the top that was really hard so backed
    off and put crampons on. Really easy after this. Used
    crampons all the way down the steep bit of Swirral. Passed a
    party of six going up without crampons and axes. An accident
    waiting to happen I think. Took in Catstycam. Never been on
    this summit before. Still no view. Dropped down to Red Tarn
    and then across to 'the Hole in the Wall'. Came out of cloud
    here. Wind was getting up and temperatures felt quite cold.
    Set off back to Glen Ridding, diverted to Birkhouse Moor,
    another new peak for me. Cloud descending further now.
    Eventually dropped out of it lower down and so back to the
    car park via the campsite.

    Thanks to, I think Sandy Saunders, for his post about his
    trip and the comments about the top of Swirral. That was the
    only reason I took my crampons.

    Ah well four hours of exercise with nothing to see. No
    photographs taken and another experience stored away.

    Mike Mason

  2. Sounds like you had a good trip anyway Mike. Just one thing
    though.....call me picky if you want but.....

    Quoted message said:

    Watched as cloud poured over the col between Fairfield and
    Dollywaggon Pike.

    errrr......I don't think so mate.

    Dave All Wainwrights completed 74 Walks......763
    miles......approx 200,000' of ascent to complete. At Heysham
    looking across Morecambe Bay to the Cumbrian Fells

  3. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Watched as cloud poured over the col between Fairfield
    and Dollywaggon Pike.

    errrr......I don't think so mate.

    Might just be me but why not? I'm sure it's not a
    geographical thing as there is a col of sorts btwn the two
    with Grizedale Tarn in the middle of
    it. The only thing I can think of is a meteorological thing
    and you were in the area.

    Cheers

    Andy

  4. Sounds like it was a great day out Mike ...... though pity
    about the lack of view!

    Quoted message said:

    Thanks to, I think Sandy Saunders, for his post about his
    trip and the comments about the top of Swirral. That was
    the only reason I took my crampons.

    Glad to be off help. Did you read my earlier posting on 7
    March about the guy who fell to his death from Striding
    Edge? Striding Edge is one to treat with caution at any
    time, more so under winter conditions.

    Would have been nice to have seen some photos, but that's
    the luck of the draw in the UK mountains.

    --
    Sandy Saunders @ www.thewalkzone.co.uk

    'Mountains or Mole Hills ... summiting still brings
    the same excitement'

  5. Yep, read your report. Can't think where the guy slipped
    unless it was the steep bit down at the end.

    Have to say that Swirral was definitely the harder of the
    two ridges in yesterday's conditions. Is that because
    Striding Edge is horizontal rather than the non horizontal
    start to the top of Swirral.

    In summer I would rate Striding the more difficult of the
    two.

    Mike Mason "sandy saunders" <[email hidden]>
    wrote in message news:A_T4c.415$sg7.268@newsfe1-win...

    Quoted message said:

    Sounds like it was a great day out Mike ...... though pity
    about the lack


    of

    Quoted message said:

    view!

    Quoted message said:

    Thanks to, I think Sandy Saunders, for his post about
    his trip and the comments about the top of Swirral. That
    was the only reason I took my crampons.

    Glad to be off help. Did you read my earlier posting on 7
    March about the guy who fell to his death from Striding
    Edge? Striding Edge is one to


    treat

    Quoted message said:

    with caution at any time, more so under winter conditions.

    Would have been nice to have seen some photos, but that's
    the luck of the draw in the UK mountains.

    --
    Sandy Saunders @ www.thewalkzone.co.uk

    'Mountains or Mole Hills ... summiting still brings the
    same excitement'

  6. Yep that's what I meant. It was quite weird watching it
    happen and then watching the area just blot out as cloud
    came in over the tops of Helvellyn, Dollywagon,
    Fairfield, etc.

    Mike Mason

    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Watched as cloud poured over the col between Fairfield
    and Dollywaggon Pike.

    errrr......I don't think so mate.

    Might just be me but why not? I'm sure it's not a
    geographical thing as there is a col of sorts btwn the two
    with Grizedale Tarn in the middle of
    it. The only thing I can think of is a meteorological
    thing and you were


    in

    Quoted message said:

    the area.

    Cheers

    Andy

  7. Mike Mason <[email hidden]> wrote: [ excellent
    TR snipped ]

    Many thanks for this, Mike. I myself never mind about
    the absence of a view under these sorts of
    conditions; it's just an adventure being on a hill at
    a time like that!

    Mark
    --
    Mark Manning [email hidden]

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