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  1. After our Round Table Ceilidh last night a later start was called for
    so we set off for the Borders before 8 am this morning arriving at
    Cappelgill on the A708 at 9:45 am. We left the car as the snow was
    blowing through and headed up the steep slopes beside Hang Gill and on
    towards Black Craig and Nether Coomb Craig. A quick diversion picked
    up Swatte Fell and then back to the edge above the Black Hope burn.
    By now the wind was up and the snow falling heavily and visibility
    down to about 30 mtrs. Plodding on along the boundary fence the snow
    was now horizontal and turning to near blizzard proportions with
    visibility dropping all the time. We almost walked into the trig
    point and cairn right on the fence line and as conditions were now
    atrocious we decided that a backtrack was the safest way off the hill.
    Turning into the wind and spindrift called for the snow goggles and a
    face mask ( Buff ~ great bit of kit ! ). Without a single bit of flesh
    exposed to the elements it was surprisingly warm and comfortable and a
    strangely enjoyable trek back along the corrie edge in almost white
    out conditions. Dropping back down towards Hang Gill it was apparent
    that about 4 to 6 inches of snow had fallen even at this level in the
    time we were on the hill. The whole trip took exactly 4 hours, not
    too bad in these conditions today.

    That was my last Corbett of 2004 giving me a count of 41 new Corbetts
    this year, against 48 in 2003. ( also managed 11 repeated Munros in
    2004 ). the first trip out for 2005 is planned for Jan 2nd so can I
    end by wishing all on the ng a Happy New Year and many more summits in
    2005 !

    --
    Cheers
    Graham

    284/284 112/219

    If you wish to sponsor me and my colleagues for the Vodafone / NAS
    Kilimanjaro climb in January 2005 please visit
    http://www.justgiving.com/VFKilimanjaro ~ Thank You.

  2. Can someone oblige and tell me what TR stands for in the subject lines of
    some items? I imagine it is something report?

    Thanks

    Roddy (having a blond moment)

  3. "Rodders" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Can someone oblige and tell me what TR stands for in the subject


    lines of

    Quoted message said:

    some items? I imagine it is something report?

    Thanks

    Roddy (having a blond moment)

    Hi Roddy, TR = Trip Report thus allowing the reader to choose whether
    or not to read the text knowing it is a report on a recent walking
    trip.

    Cheers
    Graham

  4. Graham Ingram said:

    "Rodders" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Can someone oblige and tell me what TR stands for in the subject
    lines of some items? I imagine it is something report?

    Thanks

    Roddy (having a blond moment)

    Hi Roddy, TR = Trip Report thus allowing the reader to choose whether
    or not to read the text knowing it is a report on a recent walking
    trip.

    Cheers
    Graham

    Thanks for that.

    Roddy

  5. "Graham Ingram" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    After our Round Table Ceilidh last night a later start was called for
    so we set off for the Borders before 8 am this morning arriving at
    Cappelgill on the A708 at 9:45 am. We left the car as the snow was
    blowing through and headed up the steep slopes beside Hang Gill and on
    towards Black Craig and Nether Coomb Craig. A quick diversion picked
    up Swatte Fell and then back to the edge above the Black Hope burn.
    By now the wind was up and the snow falling heavily and visibility
    down to about 30 mtrs. Plodding on along the boundary fence the snow
    was now horizontal and turning to near blizzard proportions with
    visibility dropping all the time. We almost walked into the trig
    point and cairn right on the fence line and as conditions were now
    atrocious we decided that a backtrack was the safest way off the hill.
    Turning into the wind and spindrift called for the snow goggles and a
    face mask ( Buff ~ great bit of kit ! ). Without a single bit of flesh
    exposed to the elements it was surprisingly warm and comfortable and a
    strangely enjoyable trek back along the corrie edge in almost white
    out conditions. Dropping back down towards Hang Gill it was apparent
    that about 4 to 6 inches of snow had fallen even at this level in the
    time we were on the hill. The whole trip took exactly 4 hours, not
    too bad in these conditions today.

    That was my last Corbett of 2004 giving me a count of 41 new Corbetts
    this year, against 48 in 2003. ( also managed 11 repeated Munros in
    2004 ). the first trip out for 2005 is planned for Jan 2nd so can I
    end by wishing all on the ng a Happy New Year and many more summits in
    2005 !

    --
    Cheers
    Graham

    284/284 112/219

    If you wish to sponsor me and my colleagues for the Vodafone / NAS
    Kilimanjaro climb in January 2005 please visit
    http://www.justgiving.com/VFKilimanjaro ~ Thank You.


    What a shame to visit such a fantastic area and get such conditions, a
    favourite walk of mine is the circuit of Black Hope, from where you turned
    back you continue round and go over the impressive Saddle Yoke before
    descending back down to your car!

    Stuart
    http://www.stuartstuart.fsnet.co.uk/munros/

  6. Rodders said:

    Can someone oblige and tell me what TR stands for in the subject lines of
    some items? I imagine it is something report?

    Thanks

    Quoted message said:

    Roddy (having a blond moment)

    the [TR] you [now] already know... and its blond_e_
    ;-)






    SteveO
    --
    NE Climbers & walkers chat forum;
    http://www.thenmc.org.uk/phpBB2/index.php

    NMC website: http://www.thenmc.org.uk

  7. Rodders said:

    Can someone oblige and tell me what TR stands for in the subject lines of
    some items? I imagine it is something report?

    Trip Report....

    Usually involves a corbett :-)

    Richard Webb

  8. The message <[email hidden]>
    from SteveO contains these words:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Roddy (having a blond moment)

    [quote="Quoted message"]the [TR] you [now] already know... and its blond_e_
    ;-)[/quote]

    Marilyn was a blonde but we can deduce from Rodders use of blond that he
    is definitely male. :-)

    --
    Roger Exiled in Essex looking North to the Water Tower, South
    to the Tower on The Naze and East to the Roughs Tower.

  9. SteveO@?.?.invalid writes
    [quote="Quoted message"]

    Rodders said:

    Can someone oblige and tell me what TR stands for in the subject lines of
    some items? I imagine it is something report?

    Thanks



    Quoted message said:

    Roddy (having a blond moment)



    the [TR] you [now] already know... and its blond_e_
    ;-)
    [/quote]
    I noticed that, but assumed that he was just having a senior moment....
    --
    Gordon Harris

  10. [quote="SteveO"]

    Rodders said:

    Can someone oblige and tell me what TR stands for in the subject
    lines of some items? I imagine it is something report?

    Thanks



    Quoted message said:

    Roddy (having a blond moment)



    the [TR] you [now] already know... and its blond_e_
    ;-)
    [/quote]
    Purely a typo just you not starting a sentence with a capital and using its
    and not it's. :-)

    Roddy

  11. [quote="'Rodders'"][quote="Quoted message"]

    Quoted message said:

    Roddy (having a blond moment)



    the [TR] you [now] already know... and its blond_e_
    ;-)
    [/quote][/quote]

    Quoted message said:

    Purely a typo just you not starting a sentence with a capital and using its
    and not it's. :-)



    t'was not a typo, but a speeling mistook, and I was not starting but
    was continuing... and as for the ' it [deprecated] in its, well, all I
    have to say is you're wrong!!
    ;-)

    PS do a google if you feel you've a position to defend
    ;-))


    Its a good job we have smiley's, eh?




    SteveO
    --
    NE Climbers & walkers chat forum;
    http://www.thenmc.org.uk/phpBB2/index.php

    NMC website: http://www.thenmc.org.uk

  12. [quote="Roger Chapman"]The message <[email hidden]>
    from SteveO contains these words:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Roddy (having a blond moment)



    [quote="Quoted message"]the [TR] you [now] already know... and its blond_e_
    ;-)[/quote]

    Marilyn was a blonde but we can deduce from Rodders use of blond that he
    is definitely male. :-)[/quote]

    ahem!

    You saying I'm _not_ male??

    Wanna see just how far my testosterone levels can rise??????

    Outside, you NOW!!



    ....and if I'm not there in 5 minutes start without me!!





    SteveO
    --
    NE Climbers & walkers chat forum;
    http://www.thenmc.org.uk/phpBB2/index.php

    NMC website: http://www.thenmc.org.uk

  13. "Stuart" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Graham Ingram" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    What a shame to visit such a fantastic area and get such conditions,


    a

    Quoted message said:

    favourite walk of mine is the circuit of Black Hope, from where you


    turned

    Quoted message said:

    back you continue round and go over the impressive Saddle Yoke


    before

    Quoted message said:

    descending back down to your car!

    That was the intended route but it was becoming silly to continue on
    in the conditions. The boundary shown on the OS goes to the bealach
    after Hartfell Rig but then veers away East and North. There also
    looks like some wide plateau areas which could have been challenging
    for route finding. Knowing that we had a fence to follow all the way
    back down our ascent route and without any possibility of a view
    anyway we took the easier option. We did get some spectacular
    atmospheric views down into the snow-swept glen from the little
    outcrop over Black Craig. It was like standing on the edge of nothing
    with the snow swirling and driving below, looking down over crags, but
    unable to see the base of the glen. It gave a real mountaineering feel
    to an otherwise easy enough hill. Will more than likely return and do
    the full circuit when we go back to the Moffat Hills for the other two
    Corbetts down there.

    Cheers
    Graham

  14. SteveO@?.?.invalid writes

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Purely a typo just you not starting a sentence with a capital and using its
    and not it's. :-)

    t'was not a typo, but a speeling mistook, and I was not starting but
    was continuing... and as for the ' it [deprecated] in its, well, all I
    have to say is you're wrong!!
    ;-)

    PS do a google if you feel you've a position to defend
    ;-))

    Its a good job we have smiley's, eh?


    It's very good, especially when you always get the apostrophe decision
    wrong.
    ;-)
    --
    Gordon Harris

  15. In article <[email hidden]>,

    (Graham Ingram) said:

    *From:* "Graham Ingram" <[email hidden]>
    *Date:* Tue, 28 Dec 2004 18:00:48 -0000

    After our Round Table Ceilidh last night a later start was called for
    so we set off for the Borders before 8 am this morning arriving at
    Cappelgill on the A708 at 9:45 am.


    I was right across the Glen from you! Did you see me waving in my yellow
    jacket, or were you too busy trying to keep warm?
    We parked near Selcoth farm about 09:45 and did the 4 Donalds: Croft Head,
    Loch Fell, Wind Fell and Capel Fell. When we left the car, there didn't
    seem to be much snow, so I wore my light weight shoes. Only a thin layer
    of snow on Croft Head at 10:45. but pretty clagged in as we cross the
    Southern Upland way and headed up Loch Fell. Heavy snow and wind by then,
    I had to put my gloves on when I got to the top! Blizzard conditions
    following the fence to Wind Fell where I reminded my friend that this area
    was supposed to have the best weather in Scotland that day!
    Noticed there was lots of snow about, thought that was strange!
    back to the car after 4 hours, with snow right down almost to the car, but
    heavy rain at the car 8-(
    Nice circuit, shame about the weather!

    Hopefully one more Corbett for this year tomorrow.
    Rob

  16. [quote="SteveO"][quote="'Rodders'"][quote="Quoted message"]> Roddy (having a blond moment)

    the [TR] you [now] already know... and its blond_e_
    ;-)
    [/quote][/quote]

    Quoted message said:

    Purely a typo just you not starting a sentence with a capital and
    using its and not it's. :-)



    t'was not a typo, but a speeling mistook, and I was not starting but
    was continuing... and as for the ' it [deprecated] in its, well, all I
    have to say is you're wrong!!
    ;-)

    PS do a google if you feel you've a position to defend
    ;-))
    [/quote]


    If you were continuing you should have placed some full stops in front of
    the sentence to indicate this.

    eg. .....the [TR] you

    http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=its
    Usage Note: Its is the possessive form of the pronoun it and is correctly
    written without an apostrophe. It should not be confused with the
    contraction it's (for it is or it has), which should always have an
    apostrophe.


    Roddy (having a jet black moment)

  17. The message <[email hidden]>
    from SteveO contains these words:

    [quote="Quoted message"][quote="Quoted message"]

    Quoted message said:

    >Roddy (having a blond moment)



    [quote="Quoted message"]the [TR] you [now] already know... and its blond_e_
    ;-)[/quote]

    Marilyn was a blonde but we can deduce from Rodders use of blond that he
    is definitely male. :-)[/quote][/quote]

    Quoted message said:

    ahem!



    Quoted message said:

    You saying I'm _not_ male??



    No, and it seems I was a bit too quick to assume that Rodders was
    acquainted with one of the oddities of the English language - a feminine
    word in common use with the masculine version seen only rarely. ISTM
    (having consulted a dictionary) that while blonde relates exclusively to
    women blond is not so discriminatory.


    Quoted message said:

    Wanna see just how far my testosterone levels can rise??????



    Quoted message said:

    Outside, you NOW!!



    You wouldn't hit an old man wearing glasses?

    Quoted message said:

    ....and if I'm not there in 5 minutes start without me!!



    Hang on while I get my iceaxe. (Must keep on topic). :-)

    Will I need my crampons as well?

    --
    Roger Exiled in Essex looking North to the Water Tower, South
    to the Tower on The Naze and East to the Roughs Tower.

  18. In article <[email hidden]>, roger
    <[email hidden]> writes

    Quoted message said:

    Hang on while I get my iceaxe. (Must keep on topic). :-)

    Will I need my crampons as well?

    Well you could scratch his back when he's down !
    --
    Bill Grey
    http://www.billboy.co.uk

  19. "Rob Milne" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Hoping that Graham had dropped some useful gear in his retreat from
    the summit of Hart Fell in a blizzard, I ascended the hill on 2 Jan


    05.

    Quoted message said:

    Encountered similar weather 8-(
    High winds, blizzard, limited visibility. We huddled in the summit


    shelter

    Quoted message said:

    to have our food and got covered in blowing spindrift. So all he


    left

    Quoted message said:

    behind on the summit was the weather!

    Rob, I am much too mean to leave kit on the hill ! You are welcome
    to the weather though ! Definitely a good hill and possibly much
    under-rated

    Quoted message said:

    Happy New Year to all!
    Rob

    (start of the year (4 Jan) stats🙂
    101/284 (284/284) 202/219 47/88 6/7
    2005 goal: Hope to complete the latter three categories in 2005.

    Wow ! Everest this year assuming that is your last of the 7 summits ?

    cheers
    Graham

  20. In article <[email hidden]>,

    (Graham Ingram) said:
    Quoted message said:

    (start of the year (4 Jan) stats🙂
    101/284 (284/284) 202/219 47/88 6/7
    2005 goal: Hope to complete the latter three categories in 2005.

    Wow ! Everest this year assuming that is your last of the 7 summits ?


    Yes, I may be gone some time ...
    April and May at least.
    So completing the Corbetts will have to wait until I am back.

    cheers,
    Rob

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