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  1. I took a class of 25 ten and eleven year olds on a school trip to
    Southern Snowdonia. There follows the week's itinerary and a more
    detailed description of our assent of Cadair Idris.

    Monday
    9.15am Depart Lewisham
    4.30pm Arrive Mountain Centre
    7.00pm Evening walk
    9.15pm Child looses wellie in stream
    10.30pm Children sent to bed

    Tuesday
    2.30am Children go to sleep (or at least I do)
    6.30am Woken by children running in corridor
    10am Orienteering
    1.30pm Gorge Walk
    7.00pm Ropes Course (Teams of 5 have to carry a can of water over a
    series of rope obstacles between trees.)
    10.30pm Children sent to bed

    Wednesday
    3.00am Children go to sleep
    6.00am Woken by children playing football in dinning room
    10.00am Rock Climbing
    1.30pm Trail through a slate mine
    5.00pm Swimming
    10.30pm Children sent to bed

    Thursday
    3.30am Children go to sleep
    5.30am Woken by children playing darts on my bedroom door
    10.15am Start ascent of Cadair Idris
    1.15pm Reach the summit of Cadair Idris
    2.00pm Leave the summit
    4.00pm Return to minibus
    7.00pm Packing up
    9.30pm Torchlit Pajama Party
    9.45pm I fall asleep

    Friday
    8.45am I wake up
    9.15am Coach departs
    9.16am I fall asleep
    3.59pm I wake up
    4.00pm Arrive back in Lewisham

    Cadair Idris

    At 10.18am on Thursday 25 Year 6 children (11 girls and 14 boys), a
    Mountain Instructor, a Mountain Leader, and two teachers, one teacher
    (me) ML trained, set off for the Cadair Idris Summit via the Pony
    Path. This was the route chosen by the instructor which would give
    the group the greatest chance of getting to the summit. Only one
    child had climbed any 2000ft mountains before and most had no prior
    experience of walking in the countryside, apart from a residential
    trip a year earlier when they walked 6 miles round trip to Pitch Hill
    (257m).

    The weather forecast was sunny, 20*C, low winds. Each child was told
    to take rucksack, lunch, waterproof top, spare sweater/fleece, two
    750ml water bottles, suncream, (camera), wear light clothes, two pairs
    of socks and walking boots. Anything essential, not owned by the
    child, was loaned by the centre.

    About two miles along the Pony Path I discovered that one child had
    not filled one of her water bottles! She claimed that we only told
    her to take the bottle, not to fill it! Halfway up another girl
    complained that her feet were hurting - she was only wearing one pair
    of ankle socks! Fortunately, Anthony was (for some reason) wearing
    three pairs of socks so her removed the sweatiest pair and loaned them
    to the girl, I don't think she dared complain.

    Initially there was a bit of *are we nearly there yet?* and *is it
    lunchtime?* but the children had been well briefed and told what to
    expect. Ravina, the only child to have climbed any mountains before,
    was sure footed and walked up the hill like she was on an escalator.
    A group of five children were really going for it and were determined
    to be the first up, running off after each stop, and the group leader
    had a hard time keeping their enthusiasm controlled, giving clear
    instructions of where to wait at the end of each section. He later
    said that he thought that they'd have got to the summit in about 90
    minutes given half a chance.

    There were four rest points, and they always lasted for at least 5
    minutes after the last person arrived. But the promised sunny weather
    failed to materialise - it was overcast all day.

    At about 1.15pm the first few children reached the summit. The
    remainder of the class arrived over the next 15 minutes.

    The descent was mostly uneventful and took about two hours.

    A great day out was had by all - the first mountain experience for all
    but one child.

  2. On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 20:39:56 +0100, C L Imber
    <[email hidden]> wrote:

    [...]

    Quoted message said:

    A great day out was had by all - the first mountain experience for all
    but one child.

    What a week! Sooner you than me, but congrat's on introducing all
    those children to the joy of the hills 🙂

    Do you get a week off, now, to catch up on sleep? 🙂

    Best wishes,
    --
    ,,
    (**)PeeWiglet~~
    / \ / \ pee AT [guessthisbit].co.uk

  3. On 10/6/05 21:27, in article [email hidden],

    Peewiglet said:

    What a week! Sooner you than me, but congrat's on introducing all
    those children to the joy of the hills 🙂

    Do you get a week off, now, to catch up on sleep? 🙂

    Sleep on Cadir Idris and you go mad you know ...

    ... (this seems to be a very common Welsh myth).

    --
    Andy Howell
    Birmingham, UK

    To mail simply put back the dots ...

  4. On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 21:33:03 GMT, Andy Howell

    andy.howellNOSPAM@ecotrendDOTorgDOTuk said:

    On 10/6/05 21:27, in article [email hidden],

    Peewiglet said:

    What a week! Sooner you than me, but congrat's on introducing all
    those children to the joy of the hills 🙂

    Do you get a week off, now, to catch up on sleep? 🙂

    Sleep on Cadir Idris and you go mad you know ...

    .. (this seems to be a very common Welsh myth).

    Oooh.... maybe I'll try that! I'm sure it can't make too much
    difference :-)

    Best wishes,
    --
    ,,
    (**)PeeWiglet~~
    / \ / \ pee AT [guessthisbit].co.uk

  5. On 11/6/05 08:06, in article [email hidden],

    Peewiglet said:

    Oooh.... maybe I'll try that! I'm sure it can't make too much
    difference :-)

    Well at least up there the credit card will be safe :-)

    --
    Andy Howell
    Birmingham, UK

    To mail simply put back the dots ...

  6. On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 21:27:09 +0100, Peewiglet <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Do you get a week off, now, to catch up on sleep? 🙂

    No. But I need it - I've only just got out of bed.

    I forgot to mention in my Cadair report that one child added a few
    lines to the well known mountaineer's code of conduct:

    Leave nothing but footprints,
    Take nothing but photographs,
    Kill nothing but time.

    with,

    Pick nothing but your nose,
    Break nothing but wind.

    Rather poetic I thought, and another child added,

    Feel nothing but Euphoria.

    ====

    Just below the summit we met an elderly couple which we had passed
    early in the walk. They said that they had set out to walk around
    Llyn y Gadair but got lost!

  7. C L Imber said:

    Leave nothing but footprints,

    As somebody said, you want to be careful with those footprints - they
    can lead to erosion.

    Quoted message said:

    Take nothing but photographs,
    Kill nothing but time.

    What about midges?

    Quoted message said:

    with,

    Pick nothing but your nose,
    Break nothing but wind.

    Rather poetic I thought, and another child added,

    Feel nothing but Euphoria.

    Is feeling knackered alright?

    --
    Phil Cook looking north over the park to the "Westminster Gasworks"

  8. Phil Cook said:
    C L Imber said:

    Leave nothing but footprints,

    As somebody said, you want to be careful with those footprints - they
    can lead to erosion.

    Quoted message said:

    Take nothing but photographs,
    Kill nothing but time.

    What about midges?

    Quoted message said:

    with,

    Pick nothing but your nose,
    Break nothing but wind.

    Rather poetic I thought, and another child added,

    Feel nothing but Euphoria.

    Is feeling knackered alright?

    I'm glad you have nothing negative to say about the two poetic lines,
    *Pick nothing but your nose* and *Break nothing but wind.*

  9. C L Imber said:

    I took a class of 25 ten and eleven year olds on a school trip to
    Southern Snowdonia. There follows the week's itinerary and a more
    detailed description of our assent of Cadair Idris.


    Snip.....

    Quoted message said:

    A great day out was had by all - the first mountain experience for all
    but one child.


    Where where you staying was it in one of the old schools?
    and which mountain leader did you get??
    Sounds like you all had a lot of fun.
    ttfn
    Jane

  10. Janej55uk said:
    C L Imber said:

    I took a class of 25 ten and eleven year olds on a school trip to
    Southern Snowdonia. There follows the week's itinerary and a more
    detailed description of our assent of Cadair Idris.


    Snip.....

    Quoted message said:

    A great day out was had by all - the first mountain experience for all
    but one child.


    Where where you staying was it in one of the old schools?

    Bryn Coedwig. Our parallel class stayed at Tyn y Berth. Do you know
    the centre?

    Quoted message said:

    and which mountain leader did you get??

    Terry - MIC and Simon - ML

    Quoted message said:

    Sounds like you all had a lot of fun.

    It was a good week, albeit exhausting.

  11. What was the feedback from the small people in the days after?

  12. Amicus said:

    What was the feedback from the small people in the days after?

    I haven't seen them. They were picked up at school on Friday, I slept
    until midday Saturday, and then I went down to Swanage to camp and
    walk Saturday night and Sunday.

  13. C L Imber said:

    I took a class of 25 ten and eleven year olds on a school trip to
    Southern Snowdonia. There follows the week's itinerary and a more
    detailed description of our assent of Cadair Idris.

    The joys of teaching...

    Quoted message said:

    4.30pm Arrive Mountain Centre

    What mountain centre is that?

    Quoted message said:

    10.15am Start ascent of Cadair Idris
    1.15pm Reach the summit of Cadair Idris

    I'm surprised that a group of 25 children would make it up there that
    quickly!

    Quoted message said:

    The weather forecast was sunny, 20*C, low winds. Each child was told
    to take rucksack, lunch, waterproof top, spare sweater/fleece, two
    750ml water bottles, suncream, (camera), wear light clothes, two pairs

    When I read that, I thought what would our students make of that set
    of instructions...

    Quoted message said:

    About two miles along the Pony Path I discovered that one child had
    not filled one of her water bottles! She claimed that we only told
    her to take the bottle, not to fill it!

    ....there we are!

    Quoted message said:

    A great day out was had by all - the first mountain experience for all
    but one child.

    Great stuff - get them used to it!
    --
    Rudi Winter, Aberystwyth, Wales

  14. On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 12:05:02 +0000 (UTC), [email hidden] (Rudi

    Winter) said:
    Quoted message said:

    4.30pm Arrive Mountain Centre

    What mountain centre is that?

    Ty'n-y-Berth (Bryn Coedwig)

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    10.15am Start ascent of Cadair Idris
    1.15pm Reach the summit of Cadair Idris

    I'm surprised that a group of 25 children would make it up there that
    quickly!

    The MIC was flabbergasted; I was delighted. The MIC said that seven
    of them would have reached the summit in 90 minutes, given the chance.

  15. "Andy Howell" <andy.howellNOSPAM@ecotrendDOTorgDOTuk> wrote in message
    news:BECFC59D.44213%andy.howellNOSPAM@ecotrendDOTorgDOTuk...

    Quoted message said:

    On 10/6/05 21:27, in article [email hidden],

    Peewiglet said:

    What a week! Sooner you than me, but congrat's on introducing all
    those children to the joy of the hills 🙂

    Do you get a week off, now, to catch up on sleep? 🙂

    Sleep on Cadir Idris and you go mad you know ...

    I thought the legend was that you either came down mad or a poet?

  16. "Rudi Winter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    C L Imber said:

    I took a class of 25 ten and eleven year olds on a school trip to
    Southern Snowdonia. There follows the week's itinerary and a more
    detailed description of our assent of Cadair Idris.

    The joys of teaching...

    Having only once opted to take a group of children on a week away(and with
    many photos of me crashed out comatose on a table after only four days), I
    have only the greatest admiration

  17. Rob Devereux said:
    Quoted message said:

    Sleep on Cadir Idris and you go mad you know ...

    I thought the legend was that you either came down mad or a poet?

    And how would the rest of us tell the difference?

    Judith

    (No pomes here)

  18. "Judith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Rob Devereux said:
    Quoted message said:

    Sleep on Cadir Idris and you go mad you know ...

    I thought the legend was that you either came down mad or a poet?

    And how would the rest of us tell the difference?

    Well, personally I had elements of both when I went there first so I'm not
    sure what I got out of it.

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