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  1. On my own today as regular walking partner Frank was
    housebound so a chance for me to catch up with a Corbett he
    had climbed before but I had missed. An early drive to Glen
    Shiel saw me parked at 8:45 and walking minutes later. I
    took the direct route up the front of the hill from the A87
    and summitted in 1 hour 15 mins. A delightful summit with
    some terrific views and definitely an example of a Corbett
    that should be climbed at the same time as the neighbouring
    Munro, in this case Ciste Dubh. This lone Corbett sits
    amongst the Kintail Munro's and from the summit you can view
    all of North Glen Shiel, most of South Glen Shiel and the
    significant Munro's in Affric and beyond. As it had been
    misty on the way up but then cleared I decided just to
    retrace my upwards route and get the benefit of the narrow
    and very steep sided ridge. The views along the South
    Cluanie Ridge were spectacular with high snow patches still
    on most of the mountains. Having got used to the height drop
    between Corbetts it is incredible to think that there are 7
    Munro's on the ridge with hardly any drop between them. A
    very enjoyable if short outing, 2 hours from car to car.
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    Cheers
    Graham

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  2. Ho do you do it? You're away every weekend, yet I've climbed
    nothing since last October! I think I need to cancel all my
    commitments and get out onto the hills!!!!

    Jim

    Graham Ingram said:

    On my own today as regular walking partner Frank was
    housebound so a chance for me to catch up with a Corbett
    he had climbed before but I had missed. An early drive to
    Glen Shiel saw me parked at 8:45 and walking minutes
    later. I took the direct route up the front of the hill
    from the A87 and summitted in 1 hour 15 mins. A delightful
    summit with some terrific views and definitely an example
    of a Corbett that should be climbed at the same time as
    the neighbouring Munro, in this case Ciste Dubh. This lone
    Corbett sits amongst the Kintail Munro's and from the
    summit you can view all of North Glen Shiel, most of South
    Glen Shiel and the significant Munro's in Affric and
    beyond. As it had been misty on the way up but then
    cleared I decided just to retrace my upwards route and get
    the benefit of the narrow and very steep sided ridge. The
    views along the South Cluanie Ridge were spectacular with
    high snow patches still on most of the mountains. Having
    got used to the height drop between Corbetts it is
    incredible to think that there are 7 Munro's on the ridge
    with hardly any drop between them. A very enjoyable if
    short outing, 2 hours from car to car.

    Jim Willsher

    Homepages at jimwillsher.co.ukjimwillsher.co.uk

  3. In article <[email hidden]>, graham.

    (Graham Ingram) said:

    A very enjoyable if short outing, 2 hours from car
    to car.


    IMHO you are being a bit of a whimp here. Only 2 hours walk
    on a hill day! You should have dropped to the bottom of the
    valley and also done Sgurr Mhic B! (I did it the afternoon
    of doing Sguman Coinntich in the morning 8-) After a short
    hill, squeeze in another one and you'll greatly reduce the
    munber of hills day 8-)) just a suggestion... Rob

  4. "Jim Willsher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Ho do you do it? You're away every weekend, yet I've
    climbed nothing


    since

    Quoted message said:

    last October! I think I need to cancel all my
    commitments and get


    out onto

    Quoted message said:

    the hills!!!!

    Hi Jim, long time no speak !

    I have to admit I AM very lucky in a number of key elements
    for getting away most weekends

    a) I have a very understanding wife who works Saturdays
    b) I am off most Saturdays although I have to be "on call"
    one in four
    c) I have a fully expensed company car so there is no real
    cost of travel to me involved
    d) I have 30 days holiday a year to use if needed to
    enhance the weekends
    e) As I work for an essentially English company I get all
    the national ( English )Bank Holidays as well as the
    local Scottish ones.
    f) Having a regular walking partner helps as well as
    there is then dual motivation to go out even in the
    poorer weather
    g) Bad weather walking has never bothered me so we tend to
    go out in all conditions ( unless really extreme )
    h) On top of all that I have a very understanding boss who
    also believes in work / life balance and knows I walk
    regularly and takes an interest in what I am doing.
    i) Apart from walking I have no other hobby that is time
    hungry or demands regular commitments
    j) I ensure that regular family holidays are taken that
    suit my wife and that walking does NOT feature in them.

    And finally I personally find that working through a list ,
    Munro's or Corbett's also stimulates regular commitment to
    seeing the totals rise, apart from getting to parts of
    Scotland that I otherwise would never see.

    All in all I am a very happy and lucky bunny ! ( currently
    planning my next long weekend to include the Skye and Harris
    Corbett's )

    Cheers Graham

  5. "Rob Milne" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    graham. (Graham Ingram) said:

    A very enjoyable if short outing, 2 hours from car
    to car.


    IMHO you are being a bit of a whimp here. Only 2 hours
    walk on a


    hill

    Quoted message said:

    day! You should have dropped to the bottom of the valley
    and also


    done

    Quoted message said:

    Sgurr Mhic B! (I did it the afternoon of doing Sguman
    Coinntich in


    the

    Quoted message said:

    morning 8-) After a short hill, squeeze in another one and
    you'll greatly reduce


    the

    Quoted message said:

    munber of hills day 8-)) just a suggestion... Rob

    That would be the normal preferred option and usual practise
    if both Frank and I were on the hill together. This was just
    a catch up day for me as he couldn't make it on Saturday so
    I was just filling in a Corbett he had done. I suspect that
    Sgurr M B may get twinned with Sgurr an Airgid for a day
    trip with your last outing to Sgurr Gaorsaic being a day
    trip to itself, without the Affric Munro's added ! ! ! I
    think this was in fact my shortest day on the hill ever but
    would have to check my diaries to be sure. If not the
    shortest it can't be far off it. It also meant an early
    arrival back home at 1:30 pm and as my wife had Saturday
    afternoon off this week some Brownie points were gained
    which keeps me ok for the next trip as in my response to Jim
    elsewhere.

    Cheers Graham

  6. "Jim Willsher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Ho do you do it? You're away every weekend, yet I've
    climbed nothing since last October! I think I need to
    cancel all my commitments and get out onto the hills!!!!

    ..and you live in Scotland too! Think how the rest of
    us feel...

    Rob Extremely harrassed and office-bound IT Manager
    regretting not doing the TGO Challenege til I saw the
    weather this week.

  7. Graham Ingram said:

    "Jim Willsher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Ho do you do it? You're away every weekend, yet I've
    climbed nothing


    since

    Quoted message said:

    last October! I think I need to cancel all my commitments
    and get


    out onto

    Quoted message said:

    the hills!!!!

    Hi Jim, long time no speak !

    I have to admit I AM very lucky in a number of key elements
    for getting away most weekends

    a) I have a very understanding wife who works Saturdays
    b) I am off most Saturdays although I have to be "on call"
    one in four
    c) I have a fully expensed company car so there is no real
    cost of travel to me involved
    d) I have 30 days holiday a year to use if needed to
    enhance the weekends
    e) As I work for an essentially English company I get all
    the national ( English )Bank Holidays as well as the
    local Scottish ones.
    f) Having a regular walking partner helps as well as
    there is then dual motivation to go out even in the
    poorer weather
    g) Bad weather walking has never bothered me so we tend to
    go out in all conditions ( unless really extreme )
    g) On top of all that I have a very understanding boss who
    also believes in work / life balance and knows I walk
    regularly and takes an interest in what I am doing.
    h) Apart from walking I have no other hobby that is time
    hungry or demands regular commitments
    i) I ensure that regular family holidays are taken that
    suit my wife and that walking does NOT feature in
    them.

    And finally I personally find that working through a list ,
    Munro's or Corbett's also stimulates regular commitment to
    seeing the totals rise, apart from getting to parts of
    Scotland that I otherwise would never see.

    All in all I am a very happy and lucky bunny ! ( currently
    planning my next long weekend to include the Skye and
    Harris Corbett's )

    Cheers Graham

    It's Point H which kills me! I never have the free time. I
    think that will be the theme for the whole year for me, I
    don't envisage much walking getting done this year.

    Jim

    Jim Willsher

    Homepages at jimwillsher.co.ukjimwillsher.co.uk

  8. "Graham Ingram" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    I have to admit I AM very lucky in a number of key
    elements for getting away most weekends

    a) I have a very understanding wife who works Saturdays
    b) I am off most Saturdays although I have to be "on
    call" one in four
    c) I have a fully expensed company car so there is no
    real cost of travel to me involved
    d) I have 30 days holiday a year to use if needed to
    enhance the weekends
    e) As I work for an essentially English company I get all
    the national ( English )Bank Holidays as well as the
    local Scottish ones.
    f) Having a regular walking partner helps as well as
    there is then dual motivation to go out even in the
    poorer weather
    g) Bad weather walking has never bothered me so we tend
    to go out in all conditions ( unless really extreme )
    g) On top of all that I have a very understanding boss
    who also believes in work / life balance and knows I
    walk regularly and takes an interest in what I am
    doing.
    h) Apart from walking I have no other hobby that is time
    hungry or demands regular commitments
    i) I ensure that regular family holidays are taken that
    suit my wife and that walking does NOT feature in
    them.

    And finally I personally find that working through a list
    , Munro's or Corbett's also stimulates regular commitment
    to seeing the totals rise, apart from getting to parts of
    Scotland that I otherwise would never see.

    All in all I am a very happy and lucky bunny ! ( currently
    planning my next long weekend to include the Skye and
    Harris Corbett's )

    How far do you typically drive to bag a hill or two? I live
    in Bristol and when I first got interested in the hills up
    North I used to think nothing of driving the 200-250 miles
    to Snowdonia or The Lake District in the early hours of
    Saturday morning and then back Sunday evening for a quick
    weekend's walking and scrambling. That's far too much
    effort these days and trips are limited to longer stays in
    the school holidays either with my girlfriend in her
    campervan or backpacking and wildcamping by myself (mostly
    Scotland). I get a more regular outdoors fix from local
    strolls, mountain biking and running. Half past nine and
    I've been on a 15 mile bike ride around the local woods
    already this morning.

  9. "AndyP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    How far do you typically drive to bag a hill or two?
    I live in


    Bristol and

    Quoted message said:

    when I first got interested in the hills up North I used
    to think


    nothing of

    Quoted message said:

    driving the 200-250 miles to Snowdonia or The Lake
    District in the


    early

    Quoted message said:

    hours of Saturday morning and then back Sunday evening
    for a quick


    weekend's

    Quoted message said:

    walking and scrambling.

    I suppose the easy answer to the question is as far as it
    takes to get there ;-) My most local hills, Ben Chonzie (
    Munro ) and Auchnafree Hill ( Corbett ) are less than 10
    minutes drive from the house and in fact I could walk to
    both from the house without using the car at all. I once
    counted about 100 Munro's less than 2 hours from the house.
    Crieff is almost ideally placed on the main routes and with
    an early Saturday morning start and lack of traffic it is
    more about drive time than distance. I can be in Glencoe or
    the Cairngorms in under 1.5 hours and as far as Inverness in
    under 2 hours. This even brings the far North into play for
    a day trip if the hill time is fairly short, so for example
    when we did Seana Bhraigh we simply drove North, did the
    hill and drove back home again. Now that the Corbett's are
    the main focus I can even be into the Galloway and Border
    Hills in well under 2 hours. I suppose realistically my
    average drive time will be around 2 hours each way and this
    will cover the bulk of the significant hills in Scotland. We
    tend to try to keep the multi day trips for the islands or
    Knoydart etc where the travel then does become much more
    significant.

    Cheers Graham

  10. "Graham Ingram" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I can be in Glencoe or the Cairngorms in under 1.5 hours
    and as far as Inverness in under 2 hours. This even
    brings the far North into play for a day trip if the hill
    time is fairly short, so for example when we did Seana
    Bhraigh we simply drove North, did the hill and drove
    back home again. Now that the Corbett's are the main
    focus I can even be into the Galloway and Border Hills in
    well under 2 hours.

    I am seething with jealousy :-) From here I can access the
    Galloway/Border Hills in probably slightly less than you,
    but Drumochter and Glencoe are about 2 hours north. As
    almost everything I do is via the A82 or A9, the driving
    gets a bit tedious although it is a lot better with the
    light mornings now.

    KRO

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