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  1. I am the unhappy owner of a Tour N Trail bike computer bought at a
    Meijer store about 3 years ago. The battery has died and I can't seem
    to find the instruction booklet for it anywhere.

    I was wondering if anyone out there owns one and has the instruction
    booklet? If so, please let me know, for I need to find out the correct
    setting for my size tire.

    Or, if anyone would happen to know of any links to where I could find
    such info, that would be greatly appreciated as well. I don't know if
    Tour N Trail is the brand name or just a model name. That's all it has
    written on it. I tried a Google search and came up empty, so my guess
    would be that there is no link, but you never know, right? Right hehe.

    Thanks in advance for any info.

  2. AmericanFlyer64 said:

    I am the unhappy owner of a Tour N Trail bike computer bought at a
    Meijer store about 3 years ago. The battery has died and I can't seem
    to find the instruction booklet for it anywhere.

    I was wondering if anyone out there owns one and has the instruction
    booklet? If so, please let me know, for I need to find out the correct
    setting for my size tire.

    Or, if anyone would happen to know of any links to where I could find
    such info, that would be greatly appreciated as well. I don't know if
    Tour N Trail is the brand name or just a model name. That's all it has
    written on it. I tried a Google search and came up empty, so my guess
    would be that there is no link, but you never know, right? Right hehe.

    Thanks in advance for any info.

    Dear AF,

    Sheldon Brown probably has the answer about correct
    calibration:

    http://www.sheldonbrown.com/cyclecomputer_calibration.html

    For the fuss and trouble, consider spending $10, including
    tax, at WalMart for a Schwinn cyclocomputer with battery and
    instructions. It's as ridiculously accurate as any ordinary
    cyclocomputer.

    Carl Fogel

  3. Quoted message said:

    For the fuss and trouble, consider spending $10, including
    tax, at WalMart for a Schwinn cyclocomputer with battery and
    instructions. It's as ridiculously accurate as any ordinary
    cyclocomputer.

    Is that the one where you set the wheel size as circumference in inches,
    rounded to the nearest inch? Cause that sounds inaccurate.

    Jasper

  4. Jasper Janssen said:
    Quoted message said:

    For the fuss and trouble, consider spending $10, including
    tax, at WalMart for a Schwinn cyclocomputer with battery and
    instructions. It's as ridiculously accurate as any ordinary
    cyclocomputer.

    Is that the one where you set the wheel size as circumference in inches,
    rounded to the nearest inch? Cause that sounds inaccurate.

    No, and it isn't the one with a chunk of wood and a long knotted rope, either.

    The one Carl is talking about is a perfectly functional cyclocomputer with
    settings in the usual millimeters. (I won't even address the difference between
    precision and accuracy).

    After a 40 mile ride on the Sunshine Trail bike path, basically a straight run
    up and back, this unit disagreed with the surveyed mile markers by 30ish yards.
    It read short which could well be accounted for by lateral movement and swinging
    wide around the few corners.

    Ron

  5. Jasper Janssen said:
    Quoted message said:

    For the fuss and trouble, consider spending $10, including
    tax, at WalMart for a Schwinn cyclocomputer with battery and
    instructions. It's as ridiculously accurate as any ordinary
    cyclocomputer.

    Is that the one where you set the wheel size as circumference in inches,
    rounded to the nearest inch? Cause that sounds inaccurate.

    Jasper

    Dear Jasper,

    No, that's the one whose speedometer reads in thousandths,
    not hundredths of a mile, and is calibrated in millimeters.

    The basic technology for a wired cyclocomputer is about as
    complicated as a digital watch (invariably included), which
    is why a $10 model is likely to be just as accurate as an
    expensive one.

    Increasing the display resolution to thousandths of a mile
    illustrates how basic the features are. Strictly speaking,
    5.280 feet is a touch less than a typical wheel revolution,
    but it's trivial to force the display to turn over whenever
    the total wheel revolutions divided by 5.280 feet break the
    next integer.

    Accuracy to 4-digits (millimeters) is hardly asking much of
    a computer circuit.

    As for practical matters, the handlebar mount is nicer than
    most of the $20 Nashbar and Performance mounts that I've
    used and the seating of the computer on the mount adds a
    latch to the usual push-in system that eventually weakens
    and lets the contacts occasionally disconnect.

    And in any case, the nearest inch is still ridiculously
    accurate, despite your assumption. For a 700c tire, the
    industry suggests 2124 mm, or 83.62 inches. Rounding that up
    to 84.0 inches would lead to a mileage reading that was a
    whopping 0.45% high.

    Carl Fogel

  6. On Sun, 04 Sep 2005 14:18:18 GMT, RonSonic <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    On Sun, 04 Sep 2005 13:14:37 GMT, Jasper Janssen <[email hidden]> wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Is that the one where you set the wheel size as circumference in inches,
    rounded to the nearest inch? Cause that sounds inaccurate.

    No, and it isn't the one with a chunk of wood and a long knotted rope, either.

    The one Carl is talking about is a perfectly functional cyclocomputer with
    settings in the usual millimeters. (I won't even address the difference between
    precision and accuracy).

    It can get plenty of precision with a wheel diameter number that is
    inherently inaccurate, but it won't be very accurate. Sounds like the
    right one of the two to use to me.

    Quoted message said:

    After a 40 mile ride on the Sunshine Trail bike path, basically a straight run
    up and back, this unit disagreed with the surveyed mile markers by 30ish yards.
    It read short which could well be accounted for by lateral movement and swinging
    wide around the few corners.

    Fair enough. Bike computers are commoditised over here as well, though not
    at the $10 level (at the HEMA I saw a 15 euro one with the expected 7 or 8
    functions and a 10 euro one with just the big three).

    Jasper

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