Torte, [censored] and Pie?

Ronnie Rao said:

Hello All:

Can anyone tell me the difference between Torte, [censored]
and Pie?

Ronnie

Probably not. The terms have become so mixed up in this day
and age they are unlikely to have any distinct meaning
unless you specify (e.g) "Sacher Torte", "Blackberry [censored]"
or "Pecan Pie".

Jill

Ronnie Rao said:

Can anyone tell me the difference between Torte, [censored]
and Pie?

$4/serving

Quoted message said:

(Ronnie Rao) wrote:

Can anyone tell me the difference between Torte, [censored] and
Pie?

A pizza pie isn't a pie at all, except that it's made with
yeast dough it is actually more of a [censored].

torte [TOHRT] A rich cake, often made with little or no
flour but instead with ground nuts or bread crumbs, eggs,
sugar and flavorings. Tortes are often multilayered and
filled with BUTTERCREAM, jams, etc.
---

[censored] Very simply, a [censored] is a pastry crust with _shallow
sides_, a filling and *no* top crust. The filling can be
sweet (such as fruit or sweet custard) or savory (like
meat, cheese or savory custard). Depending on the type of
[censored], the pastry shell can be baked and then filled, or
filled and then baked. [censored] can be bite-sized (often
served as HORS D'OEUVRE), individual-sized (sometimes
called tartlets ) or full-sized. They can be used as
appetizers, entrées or desserts.
---

pie A sweet or savory dish made with a crust and filling
(such as fruit, pudding, meat or vegetable). Pies can have
bottom crusts only, or top and bottom crusts or, as with DEEP-
DISH pies, only a top crust. Sweet pies are generally served
as dessert and savory pies as the main course or appetizer.
Crusts can be made of a variety of mixtures including short
crust pastry, PUFF PASTRY, cookie crumbs, MERINGUE and even,
as with SHEPHERD'S PIE, mashed potatoes.

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Quoted message said:

Can anyone tell me the difference between Torte, [censored] and
Pie?

Easy enough.

A torte is a cake-like confection but with ground nuts
or breadcrumbs rather than flour; rich but not as light
as a cake.

A pie is anything surrounded on at least one side by pastry--
or, in a pinch, yeasted dough.

A [censored] is a fruit pie, generally conceived to serve one
individual. I've also heard small custard pies called
"[censored]," but that rates as an unsound neologism for me.

Neil

Ronnie Rao had something important to tell us on 5 May 2004 13:25:12
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Hello All:

Can anyone tell me the difference between Torte, [censored] and
Pie?

The theory used to be that a pie has pastry on the top and
usually the bottom as well, while a [censored] is a baked pastry
shell filled with something and NOT topped with pastry. But
it's so mixed up nowadays that there isn't any practical
difference at all.

Also a pie is baked in a pie plate, and a [censored] in a flat-
sided fluted metal pan, which is removed before eating.
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What I understand is Torte is a cake, [censored] is usually made
in a fluted sided shallow pan and pie is made in a pie pan.

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Ronnie Rao said:

Hello All:

Can anyone tell me the difference between Torte, [censored]
and Pie?

Ronnie

Probably not. The terms have become so mixed up in this
day and age they are unlikely to have any distinct meaning
unless you specify (e.g) "Sacher Torte", "Blackberry [censored]"
or "Pecan Pie".

Jill

Julia Altshuler said:

Ronnie Rao said:

Can anyone tell me the difference between Torte, [censored]
and Pie?

$4/serving

ROTFL!

WardNA said:

Quoted message said:

Can anyone tell me the difference between Torte, [censored]
and Pie?

Easy enough.

A torte is a cake-like confection but with ground nuts
or breadcrumbs rather than flour; rich but not as light
as a cake.

A pie is anything surrounded on at least one side by pastry--
or, in a pinch, yeasted dough.

A [censored] is a fruit pie, generally conceived to serve one
individual. I've also heard small custard pies called
"[censored]," but that rates as an unsound neologism for me.

Neil

Not at all. The individual egg custard pies in the UK have
been called custard [censored] for a very long time. That's to
distinguish them from the larger size pie.

WardNA said:

Quoted message said:

Can anyone tell me the difference between Torte, [censored]
and Pie?

Easy enough.

A torte is a cake-like confection but with ground nuts
or breadcrumbs rather than flour; rich but not as light
as a cake.

And yet, there is the Sacher torte... Another definition is
a many-layered cake.

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A pie is anything surrounded on at least one side by pastry--
or, in a pinch, yeasted dough.

Too vague. An eclair could be so described. "Pastry case" is
often found in definitions of pies.

Quoted message said:

A [censored] is a fruit pie, generally conceived to serve one
individual. I've also heard small custard pies called
"[censored]," but that rates as an unsound neologism for me.

And yet a clafoutis is also called a [censored] and it's a full-
sized, many-portion dish.

Looks like the definitions need some tightening.

Pastorio

WardNA said:

Quoted message said:

Can anyone tell me the difference between Torte, [censored]
and Pie?

Quoted message said:

A pie is anything surrounded on at least one side by pastry--
or, in a pinch, yeasted dough.

A [censored] is a fruit pie, generally conceived to serve one
individual.

Rubbish, they can be any size.

A [censored] is generally uncovered (can be decorated). A pie may
or may not be covered.

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I've also heard small custard pies called "[censored]," but
that rates as an unsound neologism for me.

Probably to distinguish them from a covered pie.

--
Tim C.

Kajikit said:

Also a pie is baked in a pie plate,

In a pie *dish*. Boy, you colonials. ;-)
--
Tim C.

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WardNA said:

Quoted message said:

Can anyone tell me the difference between Torte, [censored]
and Pie?

Easy enough.

A torte is a cake-like confection but with ground nuts
or breadcrumbs rather than flour; rich but not as light
as a cake.

Looks like the definitions need some tightening.

Pastorio

Especially the one for "torte"-- which is a cake leavened
only with eggs. It doesn't matter what source the "flour"
comes from.

Zee

Hi guys,

Thanks a ton for all these replies. I think I know whats the
difference now. Thanks Wade.

Regards,

Rupen

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Kajikit said:

Also a pie is baked in a pie plate,

In a pie *dish*. Boy, you colonials. ;-)

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A [censored] is a fruit pie, generally conceived to serve one
individual. I've also heard small custard pies called
"[censored]," but that rates as an unsound neologism for me.

Here's the definition of [censored] from one of my cookbooks. "A
[censored] has a short crust made from butter and eggs and often
sweetened with sugar. These ingredients make the pastry rich
and crumbly rather than flaky. A [censored] is baked in a shallow,
rimless, straight-sided [censored] tin with a removable bottom or
in a [censored] band positioned on a baking sheet. When baked, the
once fragile pastry develops enough strength to form a
pastry shell that can support its filling without the help
of the [censored] tin."

WardNA said:

The Sachertort, as made and served in Vienna, is a true
torte, not a cake. It's the foreign versions that lean
towards cake.

Like a Schwarzwälder Kirschtorte? I suppose that's foreign
too if you're an Austrian.
--
Tim C.

WardNA said:

Quoted message said:

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A torte is a cake-like confection but with ground nuts
or breadcrumbs rather than flour; rich but not as light
as a cake.

And yet, there is the Sacher torte... Another definition
is a many-layered cake.

The Sachertort, as made and served in Vienna, is a true
torte, not a cake. It's the foreign versions that lean
towards cake.

I had Sacher torte in both the Sacher Hotel and at the Demel
Pastry shop and it was a cake with specific other stuff. A
good, dense chocolate cake, to be sure, but a cake.

The Sacher hotel calls it a cake: <http://tinyurl.com/ysotr>
The ingredients say cake.

A recipe for it:
<http://www.goodcooking.com/ckbookrv/chocolat/chocolrv.htm>

I stayed at the Hotel Bristol and at the Schwarzenburg
Palace on different occasions.
<http://www.showcook.co.za/vienna.htm> and <palais-palais-Open ↗
schwarzenberg.com/en/about/> Expense accounts are
wonderful things.

Pastorio

MOM PEAGRAM said:

What I understand is Torte is a cake, [censored] is usually made
in a fluted sided shallow pan and pie is made in a pie pan.

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Ronnie Rao said:

Hello All:

Can anyone tell me the difference between Torte, [censored]
and Pie?

Ronnie

Probably not. The terms have become so mixed up in this
day and age they are unlikely to have any distinct
meaning unless you specify (e.g) "Sacher Torte",
"Blackberry [censored]" or "Pecan Pie".

Jill

This reminds me of a post of several years ago, someone
asked "How do you make a Gypsy [censored]"

I think if it was Kay Hartman that answered you dress her in
an off the shoulder blouse with a slit skirt and black
fishnet stockings, or something like that, every time I see
a [censored] request that post comes to mind. Sorry, I just had to
take that little trip down memory lane.

This recipe states to whip the sugar and evaporated milk
together for 10 minutes and that it should be light coffee
flavored. Here's the recipe

* Exported from MasterCook *

Gypsy [censored]

Recipe By : Serving Size : 1 Preparation Time :0:00
Categories : Desserts

Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method --------
------------ -------------------------------- 8 oz
shortcrust pastry 1 1x400 g/140z can evaporated milk 250
g/120z dark muscovardo sugar

Heat the oven to 200c/400f Roll out the pastry and line a
10" flan ring, line with greaseproof paper and bake for 15-
20 mins, leave to cool. Whisk the evaporated milk and sugar
together for 10mins. untill it is light and fluffy, it
should be coffee coloured. Pour into the pastry case and
bake for10mins or untill set. Leave to cool. Hope this is of
some use, Shared by:Katharine on rfc

Koko

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MOM PEAGRAM said:

What I understand is Torte is a cake, [censored] is usually
made in a fluted

sided

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shallow pan and pie is made in a pie pan.

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Ronnie Rao wrote:
> Hello All:
>
> Can anyone tell me the difference between Torte, [censored]
> and Pie?
>
> Ronnie

Probably not. The terms have become so mixed up in this
day and age

they

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are unlikely to have any distinct meaning unless you
specify (e.g)

"Sacher

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Torte", "Blackberry [censored]" or "Pecan Pie".

Jill

This reminds me of a post of several years ago, someone
asked "How do you make a Gypsy [censored]"

I think if it was Kay Hartman that answered you dress her
in an off the shoulder blouse with a slit skirt and black
fishnet stockings, or something like that, every time I
see a [censored] request that post comes to mind. Sorry, I just
had to take that little trip down memory lane.

snip

In UK English the difference would be Torte = cake of
foreign origin [censored] = only one layer of pastry [Under the
filing] Pie = two layers of pastry one over and one under
hope this helps Diane