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  1. Original post
    Dan Gregory
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    Pos. Cat. Cat. N. Name Surname Pos. off. Official Time Real
    Pos.
    1 H 452 CURRIT JEAN-CHRISTOPHE 1 06h 57' 43." 1
    2 H 10 HERBRETEAU LOIC 2 06h 58' 00." 3
    3 H 8 MARCON LAURENT 3 06h 58' 01." 4
    4 H 921 GILLEREAU PIERRICK 4 06h 58' 04." 2
    5 H 469 BAROT JEAN-LOUIS 5 07h 07' 31." 8
    6 H 592 BOUCHET JEROME 6 07h 07' 33." 9
    7 H 31 SACAZE MICHEL 7 07h 07' 34." 10
    8 H 486 DANION DAVID 8 07h 07' 34." 5
    9 H 456 GUERIN JEAN 9 07h 07' 35." 6
    10 H 493 BEILLEVERT LAURENT 10 07h 07' 35." 7
    11 H 130 MARTIN JEAN-CHARLES 11 07h 11' 25." 13
    I wonder how times will compare?
    All the best
    Dan Gregory

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  2. Richard Adams
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    237 Km for a bunch of Freds... hmm. Probably an hour less, unless some
    rascal takes a flier.

    Dan Gregory said:

    Pos. Cat. Cat. N. Name Surname Pos. off. Official Time Real
    Pos.
    1 H 452 CURRIT JEAN-CHRISTOPHE 1 06h 57' 43." 1
    2 H 10 HERBRETEAU LOIC 2 06h 58' 00." 3
    3 H 8 MARCON LAURENT 3 06h 58' 01." 4
    4 H 921 GILLEREAU PIERRICK 4 06h 58' 04." 2
    5 H 469 BAROT JEAN-LOUIS 5 07h 07' 31." 8
    6 H 592 BOUCHET JEROME 6 07h 07' 33." 9
    7 H 31 SACAZE MICHEL 7 07h 07' 34." 10
    8 H 486 DANION DAVID 8 07h 07' 34." 5
    9 H 456 GUERIN JEAN 9 07h 07' 35." 6
    10 H 493 BEILLEVERT LAURENT 10 07h 07' 35." 7
    11 H 130 MARTIN JEAN-CHARLES 11 07h 11' 25." 13
    I wonder how times will compare?
    All the best
    Dan Gregory

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  3. Richard Adams
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    Richard Adams <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    237 Km for a bunch of Freds... hmm. Probably an hour less, unless some
    rascal takes a flier.

    Dan Gregory said:

    Pos. Cat. Cat. N. Name Surname Pos. off. Official Time Real
    Pos.
    1 H 452 CURRIT JEAN-CHRISTOPHE 1 06h 57' 43." 1
    2 H 10 HERBRETEAU LOIC 2 06h 58' 00." 3
    3 H 8 MARCON LAURENT 3 06h 58' 01." 4
    4 H 921 GILLEREAU PIERRICK 4 06h 58' 04." 2
    5 H 469 BAROT JEAN-LOUIS 5 07h 07' 31." 8
    6 H 592 BOUCHET JEROME 6 07h 07' 33." 9
    7 H 31 SACAZE MICHEL 7 07h 07' 34." 10
    8 H 486 DANION DAVID 8 07h 07' 34." 5
    9 H 456 GUERIN JEAN 9 07h 07' 35." 6
    10 H 493 BEILLEVERT LAURENT 10 07h 07' 35." 7
    11 H 130 MARTIN JEAN-CHARLES 11 07h 11' 25." 13
    I wonder how times will compare?
    All the best
    Dan Gregory

    Actual:
    Virenque: 6 Hr 00 Mn
    Peloton: 6 Hr 05 Mn

    Gee. I oughta be a DS!

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  4. Jeff Jones
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    "Dan Gregory" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Pos. Cat. Cat. N. Name Surname Pos. off. Official Time Real
    Pos.
    1 H 452 CURRIT JEAN-CHRISTOPHE 1 06h 57' 43." 1
    2 H 10 HERBRETEAU LOIC 2 06h 58' 00." 3
    3 H 8 MARCON LAURENT 3 06h 58' 01." 4
    4 H 921 GILLEREAU PIERRICK 4 06h 58' 04." 2

    The top four would have made the time cut today.

    Jeff

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  5. Stewart Fleming
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    Richard Adams said:

    Richard Adams <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    237 Km for a bunch of Freds... hmm. Probably an hour less, unless some
    rascal takes a flier.

    Quoted message said:

    Actual:
    Virenque: 6 Hr 00 Mn
    Peloton: 6 Hr 05 Mn

    Gee. I oughta be a DS!

    No, you prediction was candyass. You said "an hour less" and you should
    have stopped there. But then you couldn't resist adding the caveat
    "...unless some rascal..."

    Both happened, rendering your prediction void.

    (Not as bad as mine...I meant to say FIFTY guys in the front group, not
    fifTEEN. Honest.)

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  6. Richard Adams
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    Stewart Fleming said:
    Richard Adams said:

    Richard Adams <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    237 Km for a bunch of Freds... hmm. Probably an hour less, unless
    some rascal takes a flier.

    Quoted message said:

    Actual:
    Virenque: 6 Hr 00 Mn
    Peloton: 6 Hr 05 Mn

    Gee. I oughta be a DS!

    No, you prediction was candyass. You said "an hour less" and you should
    have stopped there. But then you couldn't resist adding the caveat
    "...unless some rascal..."

    Both happened, rendering your prediction void.

    (Not as bad as mine...I meant to say FIFTY guys in the front group, not
    fifTEEN. Honest.)

    My personal definition of 'rascal' would be one of the GC hopes.
    Virenque isn't in that league anymore as last year made pretty plain. I
    wouldn't have said Fifteen, it's not that ugly a stage even if it's
    long. You'd see the tiny peloton on the long jagged stages where the
    autobus forms at the starting line.

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  7. Stewart Fleming
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    Richard Adams said:

    My personal definition of 'rascal' would be one of the GC hopes.
    Virenque isn't in that league anymore as last year made pretty plain. I
    wouldn't have said Fifteen, it's not that ugly a stage even if it's
    long. You'd see the tiny peloton on the long jagged stages where the
    autobus forms at the starting line.

    deltaT is the time difference between the Tour stage and L'etape du Tour
    times.

    R is a Boolean, if R is true, then R is a rascal, otherwise he isn't

    F is also a Boolean, if true, then a break went, otherwise it didn't

    Now, deltaT (actual) was -56 minutes; deltaT (predicted) was -60 minutes

    BUT

    deltaT (predicted) was conditional
    = -60 if not (R and F)
    = ? otherwise

    Now if Virenque is a rascal, then R is true, but from the above, you say
    you define it to be false. F is true, therefor by your definition, R
    and F is false and not (R and F) is true. Therefore your prediction of
    deltaT is -60 minutes, when the actual was -56.

    So it is better for you, you see, to assert that Virenque is a rascal,
    then deltaT (predicted) would be some other value.

    And I can turn round and say that the group all together on 5:19 down
    was 14 men strong :-))

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  8. Benjamin Weiner
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    Jeff Jones' jeff@cyclingnews-punt-com said:

    "Dan Gregory" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:

    Pos. Cat. Cat. N. Name Surname Pos. off. Official Time Real Pos
    1 H 452 CURRIT JEAN-CHRISTOPHE 1 06h 57' 43." 1
    2 H 10 HERBRETEAU LOIC 2 06h 58' 00." 3
    3 H 8 MARCON LAURENT 3 06h 58' 01." 4
    4 H 921 GILLEREAU PIERRICK 4 06h 58' 04." 2

    Quoted message said:

    The top four would have made the time cut today.

    Do they have dope tests for Freds?

    (p.s. those guys are probably amateur racers, right?)

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  9. Dan Gregory
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    "Benjamin Weiner" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > Do they have
    dope tests for Freds?
    Yes, and there have been several caught in recent years....
    All the best
    Dan Gregory

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  10. Dan Gregory
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    "Benjamin Weiner" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > Do they have
    dope tests for Freds?
    Yes, and there have been several caught in recent years....
    All the best
    Dan Gregory

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  11. Benjamin Weiner
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    Dan Gregory said:

    "Benjamin Weiner" <[email hidden]> wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Do they have dope tests for Freds?

    Quoted message said:

    Yes, and there have been several caught in recent years....

    Thanks. For some reason, doping to "win" a cyclotourist event
    seems even more pathetic than doping to win an amateur race
    (let alone a professional race). Don't ask me to justify this
    ranking of pathos, but there it is.

    Maybe doping will become as common as Trek 5500 bikes on U.S.
    cyclotourist century rides (which usually aren't timed) ...

    Ben
    Needs to start doping for training rides

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