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  1. A question prompted by the 50-mph leadout thread. Smack me if it's a faq.

    My meager top speed on a bike is 56.2 mph, which I hit riding alone down the back of the Parley's
    Summit frontage road on a very windy day. I spun out my 52/12 then tucked.

    I know I can spin pedals fast enough to achieve that speed at that gear, but not necessarily under
    load. Is it more likely that I pedalled to my top speed or achieved it by slimming my frontal area
    after spinning the gear out?

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  2. Raptor <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    A question prompted by the 50-mph leadout thread. Smack me if it's a faq.

    My meager top speed on a bike is 56.2 mph, which I hit riding alone down the back of the Parley's
    Summit frontage road on a very windy day. I spun out my 52/12 then tucked.

    I know I can spin pedals fast enough to achieve that speed at that gear, but not necessarily under
    load. Is it more likely that I pedalled to my top speed or achieved it by slimming my frontal area
    after spinning the gear out?

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    Man,

    that was a frequently asked question?

    Deeznuts

  3. In article said:

    I know I can spin pedals fast enough to achieve that speed at that gear, but not necessarily under
    load. Is it more likely that I pedalled to my top speed or achieved it by slimming my frontal area
    after spinning the gear out?

    I emphatically state that the only thing you did to get to 56.5 mph was choose the correct hill.

  4. chiefhiawatha said:
    In article said:

    I know I can spin pedals fast enough to achieve that speed at that gear, but not necessarily
    under load. Is it more likely that I pedalled to my top speed or achieved it by slimming my
    frontal area after spinning the gear out?

    I emphatically state that the only thing you did to get to 56.5 mph was choose the correct hill.

    So then, why doesn't everybody that rides this hill reach 56.5 mph?

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  5. "Per Elmsäter" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:W%sca.404 [email hidden]:

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    So then, why doesn't everybody that rides this hill reach 56.5 mph?

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    Because their weight/drag coefficient is lower.

  6. Deeznuts said:

    Raptor <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    A question prompted by the 50-mph leadout thread. Smack me if it's a faq.

    My meager top speed on a bike is 56.2 mph, which I hit riding alone down the back of the Parley's
    Summit frontage road on a very windy day. I spun out my 52/12 then tucked.

    I know I can spin pedals fast enough to achieve that speed at that gear, but not necessarily under
    load. Is it more likely that I pedalled to my top speed or achieved it by slimming my frontal area
    after spinning the gear out?

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    that was a frequently asked question?

    Deeznuts

    LOL. Okay, the could-be-a-faq is: Does speed typically increase after tucking? Never mind, it's a
    stupid question whose answer is, if the hill and wind are "correct," yes. As you were.

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    could to protect our customers. Our products just aren't engineered for security." --Microsoft VP in
    charge of Windows OS Development, Brian Valentine.

  7. Boyd Speerschneider said:

    "Per Elmsäter" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:W%sca.404 [email hidden]:

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    So then, why doesn't everybody that rides this hill reach 56.5 mph?

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    Because their weight/drag coefficient is lower.

    I understand. So as soon as an old lady comes along with the right weight/drag coefficient she
    will immediately hit 56.5 mph. Cool eh. Wish I had one of those hills at home, for climbing
    practise of course.

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  8. In article said:

    I understand. So as soon as an old lady comes along with the right weight/drag coefficient she
    will immediately hit 56.5 mph. Cool eh. Wish I had one of those hills at home, for climbing
    practise of course.

    Hey dork,

    If you could pedal your way to anywhere close to 56.5, we would be reading about you in
    cyclingnews.com.

    Amateur cyclists are hard-pressed to top 35mph unaided by wind or slope.

  9. chiefhiawatha said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, "Per Elmsäter"

    Quoted message said:

    I understand. So as soon as an old lady comes along with the right weight/drag coefficient she
    will immediately hit 56.5 mph. Cool eh. Wish I had one of those hills at home, for climbing
    practise of course.

    Hey dork,

    If you could pedal your way to anywhere close to 56.5, we would be reading about you in
    cyclingnews.com.

    Amateur cyclists are hard-pressed to top 35mph unaided by wind or slope.

    Never said you'd read anything about me. You may already have read about old ladies though.

    Why do you call me a dork just because I don't know everything that you do, or think you do maybe?

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  10. chiefhiawatha said:

    Amateur cyclists are hard-pressed to top 35mph unaided by wind or slope.

    Did it yesterday, but with wind. However, it *was* with cadence 132 (and out of the saddle) so no
    way 130+ is "spun out" (re. some other thread). Ah well never mind.

  11. "Raptor" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    A question prompted by the 50-mph leadout thread. Smack me if it's


    a faq.

    Quoted message said:


    My meager top speed on a bike is 56.2 mph, which I hit riding alone


    down

    Quoted message said:

    the back of the Parley's Summit frontage road on a very windy day.


    I

    Quoted message said:

    spun out my 52/12 then tucked.

    I know I can spin pedals fast enough to achieve that speed at that


    gear,

    Quoted message said:

    but not necessarily under load. Is it more likely that I pedalled


    to my

    Quoted message said:

    top speed or achieved it by slimming my frontal area after spinning


    the

    Quoted message said:

    gear out?

    Your speed kicked WAY up after you tucked. There's no way that you could hit 50 mph and be pedaling.
    In the first place that is about 150 rpm and very few people can make power at that speed. So you
    probably pedaled up to about 46 or so mph and then gained another 10 mph in your tuck.

  12. Tom Kunich said:

    There's no way that you could hit 50 mph and be pedaling. In the first place that is about 150 rpm

    In the 53x12.5 yes. I think I can pedal to about 140 rpm, but very few Alpine descents allow for
    that speed with the 53x11.

    Quoted message said:

    So you probably pedaled up to about 46 or so mph and then gained another 10 mph in your tuck.

    Seems like a reasonable guess, yes.

  13. Ewoud Dronkert said:
    chiefhiawatha said:

    Amateur cyclists are hard-pressed to top 35mph unaided by wind or slope.

    Did it yesterday, but with wind. However, it *was* with cadence 132 (and out of the saddle) so no
    way 130+ is "spun out" (re. some other thread). Ah well never mind.

    I bet you're not an amateur then.

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  14. Per Elms=E4ter said:

    I bet you're not an amateur then.

    WTF are you implying. I regularly outsprint Michael Boogerd.

  15. "chiefhiawatha" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, "Per Elmsäter"

    Quoted message said:

    I understand. So as soon as an old lady comes along with the right weight/drag coefficient she
    will immediately hit 56.5 mph. Cool eh.


    Wish I

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    had one of those hills at home, for climbing practise of course.

    Hey dork,

    I've heard it said that people perceive the world around them based on their own state of
    consciousness.

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    If you could pedal your way to anywhere close to 56.5, we would be reading about you in
    cyclingnews.com.

    Amateur cyclists are hard-pressed to top 35mph unaided by wind or slope.

    The question was about the contribution to pedaling on a steep hill.

    Regarding the OP, I have a hill where I live that if I coast I'll hit 38 mph and if I pedal as fast
    as I can I'll hit 45 mph. The hill that I can hit 50+ on requires no pedaling.

  16. Ewoud Dronkert said:
    Per Elmsäter said:

    I bet you're not an amateur then.

    WTF are you implying. I regularly outsprint Michael Boogerd.

    Exactly what I thought. I also believe you look even happier than this then 😉
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  17. Quoted message said:

    Your speed kicked WAY up after you tucked. There's no way that you could hit 50 mph and be
    pedaling. In the first place that is about 150 rpm and very few people can make power at that
    speed. So you probably pedaled up to about 46 or so mph and then gained another 10 mph in
    your tuck.

    It's possible to hit 50+ mph while pedaling. I do it all the time motorpacing behind my dad's van. .
    and thats in a 53X12. Granted I am spinning my ass off, but it is possible

  18. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I know I can spin pedals fast enough to achieve that speed at that gear, but not necessarily
    under load. Is it more likely that I pedalled to my top speed or achieved it by slimming my
    frontal area after spinning the gear out?

    I can coast to that speed down a hill. Pedalling has nothing to do with it.

  19. "loverboyd" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    Your speed kicked WAY up after you tucked. There's no way that you could hit 50 mph and be
    pedaling. In the first place that is about


    150

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    rpm and very few people can make power at that speed. So you


    probably

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    pedaled up to about 46 or so mph and then gained another 10 mph in your tuck.

    It's possible to hit 50+ mph while pedaling. I do it all the time motorpacing behind my dad's van.
    . and thats in a 53X12. Granted I


    am

    Quoted message said:

    spinning my ass off, but it is possible

    You can only do it because you're in the aerodynamic dead zone. On a straight hill pedaling over 42
    or 43 mph makes more air resistance than power.

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