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  1. I'm sick of puncturing inner tubes because I don't have that magic touch (which
    I think is really manly strength) for replacing the tire on my road bike.

    I groups.googled and saw mention of a device called a "Speed Lever" (this is the
    trademark name, apparently.

    Can anyone else recommend this or any other tool where I don't have to risk
    puncturing the tire every time?

    I am convinced I will not ever be able to do this with my bare hands.

    Caroline
    "Off to the Auto Parts store for some proper patch cement. *&^% buying a whole
    new tire."

  2. Have you partially inflated the tube before seating the tire?

    Caroline said:

    I'm sick of puncturing inner tubes because I don't have that magic touch (which
    I think is really manly strength) for replacing the tire on my road bike.

    I groups.googled and saw mention of a device called a "Speed Lever" (this is the
    trademark name, apparently.

    Can anyone else recommend this or any other tool where I don't have to risk
    puncturing the tire every time?

    I am convinced I will not ever be able to do this with my bare hands.

    Caroline
    "Off to the Auto Parts store for some proper patch cement. *&^% buying a whole
    new tire."

    --
    Bob Wheeler --- http://www.bobwheeler.com/
    ECHIP, Inc. ---
    Randomness comes in bunches.

  3. I have one of those tools. It would still be easy to pinch the tube,
    although not quite as easy as with regular tire tools. The problem with the
    tool you mentioned is that it tends to hang up when installing a new tire
    with it due to the tackiness of the rubber. If you apply talcum powder to
    the bead, it works fairly well, but still takes a bit of force to get the
    tire over the edge of the rim.

    "Caroline" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I'm sick of puncturing inner tubes because I don't have that magic touch


    (which

    Quoted message said:

    I think is really manly strength) for replacing the tire on my road bike.

    I groups.googled and saw mention of a device called a "Speed Lever" (this


    is the

    Quoted message said:

    trademark name, apparently.

    Can anyone else recommend this or any other tool where I don't have to


    risk

    Quoted message said:

    puncturing the tire every time?

    I am convinced I will not ever be able to do this with my bare hands.

    Caroline
    "Off to the Auto Parts store for some proper patch cement. *&^% buying a


    whole

    Quoted message said:

    new tire."

  4. Yes. I follow the directions to the letter right up to the point of the final
    seating, and these directions always say to partially inflate the tube.

    I'm just inept at this very basic repair, or it truly does involve strength
    which I do not possess, so I want a better tool.

    "Bob Wheeler" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    Have you partially inflated the tube before seating the tire?

    Caroline said:

    I'm sick of puncturing inner tubes because I don't have that magic touch


    (which

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I think is really manly strength) for replacing the tire on my road bike.

    I groups.googled and saw mention of a device called a "Speed Lever" (this is


    the

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    trademark name, apparently.

    Can anyone else recommend this or any other tool where I don't have to risk
    puncturing the tire every time?

    I am convinced I will not ever be able to do this with my bare hands.

    Caroline
    "Off to the Auto Parts store for some proper patch cement. *&^% buying a


    whole

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    new tire."

  5. I'll have to design something and try to market it. I do a lot of my own work on
    my car and know of nothing that is such a bull--- design as this. Guess if a
    bicycle tire stretcher could launch weapons, the Defense industry would have
    solved this one long ago.

    I appreciate your input.

    "Floyd Sense" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    I have one of those tools. It would still be easy to pinch the tube,
    although not quite as easy as with regular tire tools. The problem with the
    tool you mentioned is that it tends to hang up when installing a new tire
    with it due to the tackiness of the rubber. If you apply talcum powder to
    the bead, it works fairly well, but still takes a bit of force to get the
    tire over the edge of the rim.

    "Caroline" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I'm sick of puncturing inner tubes because I don't have that magic touch


    (which

    Quoted message said:

    I think is really manly strength) for replacing the tire on my road bike.

    I groups.googled and saw mention of a device called a "Speed Lever" (this


    is the

    Quoted message said:

    trademark name, apparently.

    Can anyone else recommend this or any other tool where I don't have to


    risk

    Quoted message said:

    puncturing the tire every time?

    I am convinced I will not ever be able to do this with my bare hands.

    Caroline
    "Off to the Auto Parts store for some proper patch cement. *&^% buying a


    whole

    Quoted message said:

    new tire."

  6. "Caroline" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I'm sick of puncturing inner tubes because I don't have that magic


    touch (which

    Quoted message said:

    I think is really manly strength) for replacing the tire on my


    road bike.

    Quoted message said:


    I groups.googled and saw mention of a device called a "Speed


    Lever" (this is the

    Quoted message said:

    trademark name, apparently.

    Can anyone else recommend this or any other tool where I don't


    have to risk

    Quoted message said:

    puncturing the tire every time?

    I am convinced I will not ever be able to do this with my bare


    hands.

    Quoted message said:


    Caroline
    "Off to the Auto Parts store for some proper patch cement. *&^%


    buying a whole

    Quoted message said:

    new tire."

    I use Michelin tyre levers, they are nice and wide, a grooves to get
    your rim and tyre casing into for good leverage. Use all 3 at once
    with some practice. They are light and compact, easy to find when
    you inevitablly drop them on the verge, and won't damage your rim,
    tube or tyre.

    Scroll down to this product at this link:
    http://www.wiggle.co.uk/?Category=puncture%20kits

    The Park Tyre Levers TL1C on the same link look pretty good too,
    though they don't look as compact as the Michelin ones.

  7. Caroline said:

    I'll have to design something and try to market it. I do a lot of my own work on
    my car and know of nothing that is such a bull--- design as this. Guess if a
    bicycle tire stretcher could launch weapons, the Defense industry would have
    solved this one long ago.

    I appreciate your input.

    "Floyd Sense" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    I have one of those tools. It would still be easy to pinch the tube,
    although not quite as easy as with regular tire tools. The problem with the
    tool you mentioned is that it tends to hang up when installing a new tire
    with it due to the tackiness of the rubber. If you apply talcum powder to
    the bead, it works fairly well, but still takes a bit of force to get the
    tire over the edge of the rim.

    "Caroline" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I'm sick of puncturing inner tubes because I don't have that magic touch

    (which

    Quoted message said:

    I think is really manly strength) for replacing the tire on my road bike.

    I groups.googled and saw mention of a device called a "Speed Lever" (this

    is the

    Quoted message said:

    trademark name, apparently.

    Can anyone else recommend this or any other tool where I don't have to

    risk

    Quoted message said:

    puncturing the tire every time?

    I am convinced I will not ever be able to do this with my bare hands.

    Caroline
    "Off to the Auto Parts store for some proper patch cement. *&^% buying a

    whole

    Quoted message said:

    new tire."


    don't reinvent the wheel just
    yet..http://www.parktool.com/tools/TL_10.shtml

  8. "mrbubl" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    don't reinvent the wheel just
    yet..http://www.parktool.com/tools/TL_10.shtml

    Now that's engineering!

    Have you used this?

    I'll be checking bike stores in my area tomorrow morning. If I can't find it
    locally, then, shucks, I'll manufacture one myself using the photos at the site.

    Thanks mrbubl, JH, Floyd and Bob for your input.

  9. Caroline said:

    "mrbubl" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    don't reinvent the wheel just
    yet..http://www.parktool.com/tools/TL_10.shtml

    Now that's engineering!

    Have you used this?

    I'll be checking bike stores in my area tomorrow morning. If I can't find it
    locally, then, shucks, I'll manufacture one myself using the photos at the site.

    Thanks mrbubl, JH, Floyd and Bob for your input.

    Shop around for a "Quick Stick". Its a tough, Nylon tire tool that works like the Park tool, only it can be carried along on rides. It doesn't pivot on the hub as its held by one hand but it functions jusk like it.

    I had a tough set of tires on my mountain bike that were impossible to mount/dismount with any levers. This tool worked like a charm. The only problem was after 2 years, the tool eventually cut the beads but by that time, the tires were toast.

  10. "Caroline" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    I'm sick of puncturing inner tubes because I don't have that magic touch (which
    I think is really manly strength) for replacing the tire on my road bike.

    I groups.googled and saw mention of a device called a "Speed Lever" (this is the
    trademark name, apparently.

    Can anyone else recommend this or any other tool where I don't have to risk
    puncturing the tire every time?

    I am convinced I will not ever be able to do this with my bare hands.

    Caroline
    "Off to the Auto Parts store for some proper patch cement. *&^% buying a whole
    new tire."

    Check out: http://www.thebiketool.com/en/

    I started using one of these recently and it works great.

  11. Caroline said:

    I'm sick of puncturing inner tubes because I don't have that magic touch (which
    I think is really manly strength) for replacing the tire on my road bike.

    I groups.googled and saw mention of a device called a "Speed Lever" (this is the
    trademark name, apparently.

    Can anyone else recommend this or any other tool where I don't have to risk
    puncturing the tire every time?

    I am convinced I will not ever be able to do this with my bare hands.

    Caroline
    "Off to the Auto Parts store for some proper patch cement. *&^% buying a whole
    new tire."

    The Speed Lever is by Cranks Brothers-

    http://www.gearhead.com/gh/staffreviews.htm?sid=526022K3942593&secid=0&itemid=92

    http://www.cambriabike.com/tools/crank_bros_speed_lever.htm

    You still have to be careful about getting the tube out of the way,
    but it is safer than using regular tire levers. It is somewhat flimsy,
    but once I figured out how to push it properly it worked for mounting.
    Then again, I used it for mounting just once as a test- I can use my
    hands, so maybe anyone without the hand strength to mount a tire
    wouldn't be able to use the Speed Lever?

    The Park tool someone else posted looks like a much more solid version
    of the Speed Lever. The only advantage to the Speed Lever is that it
    collapses and could be carried on the bike.

  12. Caroline said:

    "mrbubl" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    don't reinvent the wheel just
    yet..http://www.parktool.com/tools/TL_10.shtml

    Now that's engineering!

    Have you used this?

    I'll be checking bike stores in my area tomorrow morning. If I can't find it
    locally, then, shucks, I'll manufacture one myself using the photos at the site.

    Thanks mrbubl, JH, Floyd and Bob for your input.


    Yup sure have and it works great when your fingers are not enough. Not
    stocked by your LBS but available for order. Got mine as a gift and
    continue to use it in wonder why i waited so long to get one. Better
    than the crank bros unit (have one of those too)

    mrbubl

  13. Quoted message said:


    The Speed Lever is by Cranks Brothers-

    http://www.gearhead.com/gh/staffreviews.htm?sid=526022K3942593&secid=0&itemid=92

    http://www.cambriabike.com/tools/crank_bros_speed_lever.htm

    You still have to be careful about getting the tube out of the way,
    but it is safer than using regular tire levers. It is somewhat flimsy,
    but once I figured out how to push it properly it worked for mounting.
    Then again, I used it for mounting just once as a test- I can use my
    hands, so maybe anyone without the hand strength to mount a tire
    wouldn't be able to use the Speed Lever?

    The Park tool someone else posted looks like a much more solid version
    of the Speed Lever. The only advantage to the Speed Lever is that it
    collapses and could be carried on the bike.

    And the Speed Lever is only $5.99 in all of the mail order catalogs
    like Nashbar and Performance and Colorado Cyclist, etc. So it pays to
    try it first. I have the Speed Lever and it works fine. I have used
    it to mount tires on my Campagnolo Vento wheels. Campagnolo boutique
    wheels are notoriously hard to mount tires on. You need lots of thumb
    strength to do it without a tire lever. The Speed Lever still
    requires strength, but not as much and the force is applied
    differently. So the thumb strength to roll the tire over at the last
    moment isn't as important to operate the Speed lever.

    Next time you order from a catalog, buy the Speed Lever and try it.
    If you don't like it, send it back. No harm done.

  14. search bike.tech for: DIY tire removal

  15. In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    I'm sick of puncturing inner tubes because I don't have that magic touch


    (which

    Quoted message said:

    I think is really manly strength) for replacing the tire on my road bike.
    I groups.googled and saw mention of a device called a "Speed Lever" (this is


    the

    Quoted message said:

    trademark name, apparently.
    Can anyone else recommend this or any other tool where I don't have to risk
    puncturing the tire every time?
    I am convinced I will not ever be able to do this with my bare hands.

    The speed lever works ok if your tires are not of the really tight fitting
    variety. If they are tight fitting, then the speed lever sucks. You may
    want to look into getting a set of Var tire levers. You can use them to
    put even the most stubborn tire back on the rim without pinching the tube.
    ---------------
    Alex

  16. In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden]
    says...

    Quoted message said:

    Check out: http://www.thebiketool.com/en/
    I started using one of these recently and it works great.

    VAR tire levers work the same way.
    -------------
    Alex

  17. Your best bet is to partially inflate the tube (just enough to make it
    round, not stretch the rubber). this will help keep folds of tube from
    being pinched between tire and rim.

    Make sure all the tube is inside the rim and carefully push the tire
    bead over it, again, being careful not to get any of the tube in between
    tire and rim.

    Use the heels of your hands, your wrists are much stronger than your
    fingers. Work in opposite directions and move them towards each other,
    otherwise you will end up chasing the bead around the wheel. DO NOT USE
    TOOLS. As you near the last few inches, let a little air out of the tube
    if necessary to make it easier to get them over the side of the rim.

    Make sure the bead is seated around the entire tire, push the valve stem
    up into the tire to get the thicker part where it's connected to the
    tube up inside the tire (you'll feel it pop into place). Inflate the
    tire, again making sure the bead is properly seated and won't blow off
    at full pressure.

    - -

    "May you have the wind at your back.
    And a really low gear for the hills!"

    Chris Zacho ~ "Your Friendly Neighborhood Wheelman"

    Chris'Z Corner
    http://www.geocities.com/czcorner

  18. Group: rec.bicycles.tech Date: Fri, Jul 30, 2004, 12:37am (EDT+4) From:
    [email hidden] (mrbubl)

    Quoted message said:

    don't reinvent the wheel just
    yet...
    http://www.parktool.com/tools/TL_10.shtml

    Look great for the shop, but I sure wouldn't want to try getting it into
    my tool bag!

    - -

    "May you have the wind at your back.
    And a really low gear for the hills!"

    Chris Zacho ~ "Your Friendly Neighborhood Wheelman"

    Chris'Z Corner
    http://www.geocities.com/czcorner

  19. Update:

    Bought the Crank Brothers Speed Lever. I am very pleased with it.

    Detail:
    After studying what people said and the links to which people sent me, and after
    speaking to one bike shop, I (finally) figured out the Crank Brothers "Speed
    Lever" is just a collapsible, lightweight version of the Park TL-10. (The photos
    show it collapsed, so I was confused about how all it worked until I looked
    closer at some of the drawings and what people like Dan said.)

    I couldn't find the Park TL-10 locally. One store (of about ten) in my area had
    the Crank Brothers Speed Lever. I didn't want to wait a week using mail order.
    Also, as Russell suggested, I figured I could return the Crank Brothers Speed
    Lever if I was careful with the packaging and any attempts to make it work. The
    shop said that would be fine. Lastly, the Speed Lever is a lot cheaper than the
    TL-10, at under $10 vs. over $20.

    With a lot more baby powder; a little more air in the new inner tube; and
    adjusting the air in the inner tube as needed as I checked for an even fit all
    around the rim as I pushed the outer tire into place, the Speed Lever made
    installation much easier. IMO there was much less risk of puncturing the tube.
    One still has to be careful, as several of you said.

    I did both wheels today, as the other wheel's outer tire was very worn so I
    replaced it, too.

    My blood pressure is way lower from my efforts yesterday. ;-) Overall I'm
    pleased enough that I'm thinking of *starting* to carry a spare tube and my new
    Speed Lever with me on all bike trips. I never did that before, mostly because
    it was a roll of the dice as to whether I could do the reinstallation without a
    puncture. Consequently, yesterday on an otherwise beautiful, flat, 30+ mile ride
    along the Rio Grande yesterday, I rode with a flat for the last five miles(!)

    I think I'll wipe the slate clean and start fresh again on another river ride on
    Monday.

    For the archives (and as some measure perhaps of what wheels the Speed Lever
    works well on), my 1986 Vitus road bicycle's wheels are Mavic MA-40, taking 700
    x 25 tires.

    Thanks also to Weisse, Chris, Jonathan, Alex, Dan, Russell, and g. Daniels for
    posting since I last posted. All the input helped me to make what I think was a
    good decision.

    "Russell Seaton" <[email hidden]> wrote
    Dan wrote

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    The Speed Lever is by Cranks Brothers-


    http://www.gearhead.com/gh/staffreviews.htm?sid=526022K3942593&secid=0&itemid=92

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    http://www.cambriabike.com/tools/crank_bros_speed_lever.htm

    You still have to be careful about getting the tube out of the way,
    but it is safer than using regular tire levers. It is somewhat flimsy,
    but once I figured out how to push it properly it worked for mounting.
    Then again, I used it for mounting just once as a test- I can use my
    hands, so maybe anyone without the hand strength to mount a tire
    wouldn't be able to use the Speed Lever?

    The Park tool someone else posted looks like a much more solid version
    of the Speed Lever. The only advantage to the Speed Lever is that it
    collapses and could be carried on the bike.

    And the Speed Lever is only $5.99 in all of the mail order catalogs
    like Nashbar and Performance and Colorado Cyclist, etc. So it pays to
    try it first. I have the Speed Lever and it works fine. I have used
    it to mount tires on my Campagnolo Vento wheels. Campagnolo boutique
    wheels are notoriously hard to mount tires on. You need lots of thumb
    strength to do it without a tire lever. The Speed Lever still
    requires strength, but not as much and the force is applied
    differently. So the thumb strength to roll the tire over at the last
    moment isn't as important to operate the Speed lever.

    Next time you order from a catalog, buy the Speed Lever and try it.
    If you don't like it, send it back. No harm done.

  20. Caroline said:

    Update:

    Bought the Crank Brothers Speed Lever. snip....

    For future reference if you have some really tight tires as spares,
    mount them for a couple of days then take them off and they will be much
    easier when you really need them. Found this out the hard way in the
    middle of BF nowhere without prior experience. Found out the hard way
    what you really need in the way of "necessories" should include a folder
    for those glass bottles that don't know when to say stop along with a
    tube patch kit pump.....etc.....

    mrbubl

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