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  1. I've been wondering lately if I should up my calories. Lately, I've been
    averaging around 1200 calories and 30-35 carbs per day. I'm losing about a
    pound a week (I know, that's great and I should be happy---52 pounds in a
    year). But I read in DANDR that if one wants to count calories, to use the
    10-12x rule. I can't imagine losing weight eating 2000 calories. Some here
    have suggested that I may need to go lower than that, say 7 or 8x. My
    calorie count is only a little more than 5 times my weight.

    I guess I'm wondering if I am getting enough nutrition. I feel good, and
    the weight is coming off slowly. Wondering if I up the calories if the
    weight will come off faster (wouldn't mind that right now, at least till I
    get to Pre-Maintenance.)

    Also, could the fact that my calories are low be a cause of my thinning
    hair? It seems to have happened shortly after I began to really count
    calories. I've always had really thick and full hair; now I can see my
    scalp through the top front of my hair.

    Or should I just do my own experiment?

    Thanks. I'm really glad to have all you experts to bounce questions off of
    (ewww, bad grammar! Sorry!)
    --
    Linda
    296/206/160
    LC since Oct. 13, 2003
    http://home.att.net/~lewis_linda/index.html

  2. Lady o' the house said:

    I've been wondering lately if I should up my calories. Lately, I've been
    averaging around 1200 calories and 30-35 carbs per day. I'm losing about a
    pound a week (I know, that's great and I should be happy---52 pounds in a
    year).

    No reason to change anything if you're reliably losing weight.

    Quoted message said:

    Also, could the fact that my calories are low be a cause of my thinning
    hair? It seems to have happened shortly after I began to really count
    calories. I've always had really thick and full hair; now I can see my
    scalp through the top front of my hair.

    Stress can do that; dieting does cause stress. Of course, lots of
    other things could be the cause too, you never know.

    Quoted message said:

    Or should I just do my own experiment?

    Yes ;-)

  3. Lady o' the house said:

    I've been wondering lately if I should up my calories. Lately, I've been
    averaging around 1200 calories and 30-35 carbs per day. I'm losing about a
    pound a week (I know, that's great and I should be happy---52 pounds in a
    year). But I read in DANDR that if one wants to count calories, to use the
    10-12x rule. I can't imagine losing weight eating 2000 calories. Some here
    have suggested that I may need to go lower than that, say 7 or 8x. My
    calorie count is only a little more than 5 times my weight.

    Quoted message said:

    I guess I'm wondering if I am getting enough nutrition. I feel good, and
    the weight is coming off slowly. Wondering if I up the calories if the
    weight will come off faster (wouldn't mind that right now, at least till I
    get to Pre-Maintenance.)

    Quoted message said:

    Also, could the fact that my calories are low be a cause of my thinning
    hair? It seems to have happened shortly after I began to really count
    calories. I've always had really thick and full hair; now I can see my
    scalp through the top front of my hair.

    Sounds likely. Hair loss is known to be a common consequence of
    hospital-administered low-calorie protein-sparing fasts. They commonly
    allow around 700 calories.

    Dan
    325/211/180
    Atkins since 1/1/02 (yeah, it was a New Year's Resolution)
    Besetting sins: good beer, German bread, and Krispy Kremes

  4. Thanks, DJ and Daniel.

    --
    Linda
    296/206/160
    LC since Oct. 13, 2003
    http://home.att.net/~lewis_linda/index.html

    "Lady o' the house" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I've been wondering lately if I should up my calories. Lately, I've been
    averaging around 1200 calories and 30-35 carbs per day. I'm losing about


    a

    Quoted message said:

    pound a week (I know, that's great and I should be happy---52 pounds in a
    year). But I read in DANDR that if one wants to count calories, to use


    the

    Quoted message said:

    10-12x rule. I can't imagine losing weight eating 2000 calories. Some


    here

    Quoted message said:

    have suggested that I may need to go lower than that, say 7 or 8x. My
    calorie count is only a little more than 5 times my weight.

    I guess I'm wondering if I am getting enough nutrition. I feel good, and
    the weight is coming off slowly. Wondering if I up the calories if the
    weight will come off faster (wouldn't mind that right now, at least till I
    get to Pre-Maintenance.)

    Also, could the fact that my calories are low be a cause of my thinning
    hair? It seems to have happened shortly after I began to really count
    calories. I've always had really thick and full hair; now I can see my
    scalp through the top front of my hair.

    Or should I just do my own experiment?

    Thanks. I'm really glad to have all you experts to bounce questions off


    of

    Quoted message said:

    (ewww, bad grammar! Sorry!)
    --
    Linda
    296/206/160
    LC since Oct. 13, 2003
    http://home.att.net/~lewis_linda/index.html

  5. Thanks, Ig.

    --
    Linda
    296/206/160
    LC since Oct. 13, 2003
    http://home.att.net/~lewis_linda/index.html

    "Ignoramus9298" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    If you walk for an hour per day, extra, that would be an extra 2/3 lbs
    per week lost, at the very least, with same level of nutritional safety.

    i

  6. Lady,

    All that ever happened to me when I tried raising calories was weight gain.
    The more weight you lose, the less those BMR charts seem to apply. Right now
    a hospital nutritionist has told me I should be able to maintain on 2200
    calories. Well, I have logged and weighed and done all that stuff for many
    months and discovered that going over 1700 calories a day will reliably put
    weight on me, even when low carbing.

    As far as the hair loss goes, twice in the past six years I've had spells
    where my hair started falling out badly enough that it scared me. They
    passed, and it all seems to have grown back as I still have an awful lot of
    hair. This is apparently something that happens to dieters. Google this
    newsgroup and you'll find quite a few threads on the subject. You can try
    upping your B vitamins or taking Biotin.

    -- Jenny - Low Carbing for 4 years. Below goal for weight. Type 2 diabetes,
    hba1c 5.7 .
    Cut the carbs to respond to my email address!

    Jenny's new site: What they Don't Tell You About Diabetes
    http://www.geocities.com/lottadata4u/

    Jenny's Low Carb Diet Facts & Figures
    http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/

    Looking for help controlling your blood sugar?
    Visit http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/Newly%20Diagnosed.htm

    "Lady o' the house" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I've been wondering lately if I should up my calories. Lately, I've been
    averaging around 1200 calories and 30-35 carbs per day. I'm losing about


    a

    Quoted message said:

    pound a week (I know, that's great and I should be happy---52 pounds in a
    year). But I read in DANDR that if one wants to count calories, to use


    the

    Quoted message said:

    10-12x rule. I can't imagine losing weight eating 2000 calories. Some


    here

    Quoted message said:

    have suggested that I may need to go lower than that, say 7 or 8x. My
    calorie count is only a little more than 5 times my weight.

    I guess I'm wondering if I am getting enough nutrition. I feel good, and
    the weight is coming off slowly. Wondering if I up the calories if the
    weight will come off faster (wouldn't mind that right now, at least till I
    get to Pre-Maintenance.)

    Also, could the fact that my calories are low be a cause of my thinning
    hair? It seems to have happened shortly after I began to really count
    calories. I've always had really thick and full hair; now I can see my
    scalp through the top front of my hair.

    Or should I just do my own experiment?

    Thanks. I'm really glad to have all you experts to bounce questions off


    of

    Quoted message said:

    (ewww, bad grammar! Sorry!)
    --
    Linda
    296/206/160
    LC since Oct. 13, 2003
    http://home.att.net/~lewis_linda/index.html

  7. Lady o' the house said:

    I've been wondering lately if I should up my calories. Lately, I've been
    averaging around 1200 calories and 30-35 carbs per day. I'm losing about a
    pound a week (I know, that's great and I should be happy---52 pounds in a
    year). But I read in DANDR that if one wants to count calories, to use the
    10-12x rule. I can't imagine losing weight eating 2000 calories. Some here
    have suggested that I may need to go lower than that, say 7 or 8x. My
    calorie count is only a little more than 5 times my weight.

    I guess I'm wondering if I am getting enough nutrition. I feel good, and
    the weight is coming off slowly. Wondering if I up the calories if the
    weight will come off faster (wouldn't mind that right now, at least till I
    get to Pre-Maintenance.)

    Also, could the fact that my calories are low be a cause of my thinning
    hair? It seems to have happened shortly after I began to really count
    calories. I've always had really thick and full hair; now I can see my
    scalp through the top front of my hair.

    Or should I just do my own experiment?

    Thanks. I'm really glad to have all you experts to bounce questions off of
    (ewww, bad grammar! Sorry!)

    If you could do 52 MORE pounds this next year, you would be in great
    shape, right? That's unrealistic of course, but do keep in mind that
    multiple research studies have shown that rats that have been on
    extremely low calorie starvation diets, live twice as long and are
    much healthier than their control groups. A number of human studies
    are underway to determine if the same results can be applied to humans
    on extremely low calorie starvation diets. Some of these people
    expect to live to 120 or greater, but more importantly to be healthy
    and vigorous in the process.

    A body in starvation mode is a good thing

  8. PJx said:


    If you could do 52 MORE pounds this next year, you would be in great
    shape, right? That's unrealistic of course, but do keep in mind that
    multiple research studies have shown that rats that have been on
    extremely low calorie starvation diets, live twice as long and are
    much healthier than their control groups. A number of human studies
    are underway to determine if the same results can be applied to humans
    on extremely low calorie starvation diets. Some of these people
    expect to live to 120 or greater, but more importantly to be healthy
    and vigorous in the process.

    A body in starvation mode is a good thing

    I don't really agree with your use of the word "starvation". Those
    calorie levels lead to, well... starvation.

    Calorie Restriction is about matching calorie intake and nutrition to
    your activity level. The modern western way of life is incompatible with
    this lifestyle because we treat eating as a form of entertainment, and
    we are largely sedentary.

    We have evolved to use a high protein, high fibre diet to fuel hours of
    activity in the fields, or hunting, or protecting our tribe and
    territory. Compare that with the "modern" lifestyle!

    --
    Succorso

  9. Thanks for advice, Jenny. I think that going much over 1200 calories would
    be too much food for me. And I'll check out the biotin and B vitamins.

    --
    Linda
    296/206/160
    LC since Oct. 13, 2003
    http://home.att.net/~lewis_linda/index.html

    "Jenny" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Lady,

    All that ever happened to me when I tried raising calories was weight


    gain.

    Quoted message said:

    The more weight you lose, the less those BMR charts seem to apply. Right


    now

    Quoted message said:

    a hospital nutritionist has told me I should be able to maintain on 2200
    calories. Well, I have logged and weighed and done all that stuff for many
    months and discovered that going over 1700 calories a day will reliably


    put

    Quoted message said:

    weight on me, even when low carbing.

    As far as the hair loss goes, twice in the past six years I've had spells
    where my hair started falling out badly enough that it scared me. They
    passed, and it all seems to have grown back as I still have an awful lot


    of

    Quoted message said:

    hair. This is apparently something that happens to dieters. Google this
    newsgroup and you'll find quite a few threads on the subject. You can try
    upping your B vitamins or taking Biotin.

    -- Jenny - Low Carbing for 4 years. Below goal for weight. Type 2


    diabetes,

    Quoted message said:

    hba1c 5.7 .
    Cut the carbs to respond to my email address!

    Jenny's new site: What they Don't Tell You About Diabetes
    http://www.geocities.com/lottadata4u/

    Jenny's Low Carb Diet Facts & Figures
    http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/

    Looking for help controlling your blood sugar?
    Visit http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/Newly%20Diagnosed.htm

    "Lady o' the house" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I've been wondering lately if I should up my calories. Lately, I've


    been

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    averaging around 1200 calories and 30-35 carbs per day. I'm losing


    about

    Quoted message said:

    a

    Quoted message said:

    pound a week (I know, that's great and I should be happy---52 pounds in


    a

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    year). But I read in DANDR that if one wants to count calories, to use


    the

    Quoted message said:

    10-12x rule. I can't imagine losing weight eating 2000 calories. Some


    here

    Quoted message said:

    have suggested that I may need to go lower than that, say 7 or 8x. My
    calorie count is only a little more than 5 times my weight.

    I guess I'm wondering if I am getting enough nutrition. I feel good,


    and

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    the weight is coming off slowly. Wondering if I up the calories if the
    weight will come off faster (wouldn't mind that right now, at least till


    I

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    get to Pre-Maintenance.)

    Also, could the fact that my calories are low be a cause of my thinning
    hair? It seems to have happened shortly after I began to really count
    calories. I've always had really thick and full hair; now I can see my
    scalp through the top front of my hair.

    Or should I just do my own experiment?

    Thanks. I'm really glad to have all you experts to bounce questions off


    of

    Quoted message said:

    (ewww, bad grammar! Sorry!)
    --
    Linda
    296/206/160
    LC since Oct. 13, 2003
    http://home.att.net/~lewis_linda/index.html

  10. Thanks, PJx and Succorso.

    --
    Linda
    296/206/160
    LC since Oct. 13, 2003
    http://home.att.net/~lewis_linda/index.html

    "PJx" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Lady o' the house said:

    I've been wondering lately if I should up my calories. Lately, I've been
    averaging around 1200 calories and 30-35 carbs per day. I'm losing about


    a

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    pound a week (I know, that's great and I should be happy---52 pounds in a
    year). But I read in DANDR that if one wants to count calories, to use


    the

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    10-12x rule. I can't imagine losing weight eating 2000 calories. Some


    here

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    have suggested that I may need to go lower than that, say 7 or 8x. My
    calorie count is only a little more than 5 times my weight.

    I guess I'm wondering if I am getting enough nutrition. I feel good, and
    the weight is coming off slowly. Wondering if I up the calories if the
    weight will come off faster (wouldn't mind that right now, at least till


    I

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    get to Pre-Maintenance.)

    Also, could the fact that my calories are low be a cause of my thinning
    hair? It seems to have happened shortly after I began to really count
    calories. I've always had really thick and full hair; now I can see my
    scalp through the top front of my hair.

    Or should I just do my own experiment?

    Thanks. I'm really glad to have all you experts to bounce questions off


    of

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    (ewww, bad grammar! Sorry!)

    If you could do 52 MORE pounds this next year, you would be in great
    shape, right? That's unrealistic of course, but do keep in mind that
    multiple research studies have shown that rats that have been on
    extremely low calorie starvation diets, live twice as long and are
    much healthier than their control groups. A number of human studies
    are underway to determine if the same results can be applied to humans
    on extremely low calorie starvation diets. Some of these people
    expect to live to 120 or greater, but more importantly to be healthy
    and vigorous in the process.

    A body in starvation mode is a good thing

  11. They could do longitudinal studies of Buddhist monks who by religious
    vow only eat one meal a day (before noon), and are monks lifelong.

  12. "Lady o' the house" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    I've been wondering lately if I should up my calories. Lately, I've been
    averaging around 1200 calories and 30-35 carbs per day. I'm losing about a
    pound a week (I know, that's great and I should be happy---52 pounds in a
    year). But I read in DANDR that if one wants to count calories, to use the
    10-12x rule. I can't imagine losing weight eating 2000 calories. Some here
    have suggested that I may need to go lower than that, say 7 or 8x. My
    calorie count is only a little more than 5 times my weight.

    Also, could the fact that my calories are low be a cause of my thinning
    hair? It seems to have happened shortly after I began to really count
    calories. I've always had really thick and full hair; now I can see my
    scalp through the top front of my hair.

    Well, when you're eating that little you'll be malnurished. I suggest
    increasing your food intake and increasing the exercise to compensate.
    What does your workout look like, and how much protein are you
    getting? What's your age, weight, height etc?

  13. "Jenny" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:


    All that ever happened to me when I tried raising calories was weight gain.
    The more weight you lose, the less those BMR charts seem to apply.

    Of course, if you lose significant muscle because you don't use them,
    then your metabolism goes down so the weight loss gets harder and
    harder. This is what happens when you lose weight too fast and don't
    work your muscles hard enough, or when you don't get enough protein.

  14. DJ Delorie <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Lady o' the house said:

    I've been wondering lately if I should up my calories. Lately, I've been
    averaging around 1200 calories and 30-35 carbs per day. I'm losing about a
    pound a week (I know, that's great and I should be happy---52 pounds in a
    year).

    No reason to change anything if you're reliably losing weight.

    There is if you're losing as much muscle as you are fat, or more. Most
    people who try to lose weight don't know they have to do regular
    weight-lifting to preserve their muscle, so they lose all their
    muscle, their metabolism plummets, then they start complaining a year
    later that they can barely eat more than an apple a day without
    gaining weight. They also usually look thin and flabby rather than
    lean and defined as they would if they'd done the other half of the
    weight-loss equation (exercise).

  15. PJx <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:


    If you could do 52 MORE pounds this next year, you would be in great
    shape, right?

    Depends on her weight, and what she loses.

    Quoted message said:

    That's unrealistic of course, but do keep in mind that
    multiple research studies have shown that rats that have been on
    extremely low calorie starvation diets, live twice as long and are
    much healthier than their control groups.

    Depends on your definition of healthy, and the relevance depends on
    whether humans can subject themselves to starvation without it being
    enforced by a lab, and whether life in a near-coma is worth living
    twice as long.

    Quoted message said:

    A number of human studies
    are underway to determine if the same results can be applied to humans
    on extremely low calorie starvation diets. Some of these people
    expect to live to 120 or greater, but more importantly to be healthy
    and vigorous in the process.

    You can't be vigorous without eating the food to go with it. I've seen
    some of the people on those low calorie diets and they all look gaunt
    and hollow.

    Quoted message said:

    A body in starvation mode is a good thing

    Yeah, if you like being a flabby skeleton sat on the couch all day
    without enough strength to lift so much as a roll of carpet.

  16. On 23 Aug 2004 07:05:59 -0700, [email hidden] (The Voice of

    Reason) said:


    You can't be vigorous without eating the food to go with it. I've seen
    some of the people on those low calorie diets and they all look gaunt
    and hollow.

    You need to change your nick. You definitely are not a voice of
    reason.

    That gaunt and hollow look is what we should ALL be reaching for.
    I've known lots of people that have been thru heart bypass surgery and
    the only ones that are healthy, active and happy 5 years later are the
    ones that look gaunt and hollow. They followed their doctors advice
    and lost nearly all their body fat and excerise vigorously every day.

    Same thing with all my relatives. The gaunt look seems to be the key
    to staying active up the age of 95 plus in my family.

    Let me tell you what else the guys say. They say that after losing
    the body fat and exercising vigorously, they wake up with a boner
    several times a night - something they hadn't done in years. It is
    the best cure for impotency ever found.

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    A body in starvation mode is a good thing

    Yeah, if you like being a flabby skeleton sat on the couch all day
    without enough strength to lift so much as a roll of carpet.

    Those rats on reduced calorie diets were healthy and more active
    as well as living twice as long as the one on the 'normal' diet.

    Pj

  17. (The Voice of Reason) said:

    There is if you're losing as much muscle as you are fat, or more.

    The more fat you have to lose, the less muscle you'll lose even
    without exercising. Plus, the fat/muscle ratio is mostly genetic
    anyway. Yes, exercise is important, but for dropping fat the ONLY
    thing that counts is caloric deficit, and it doesn't matter how you
    get it. In fact, too much exercise can be bad too.

    A pound a week is an excellent loss rate, I don't think muscle loss is
    even an issue at that rate. 4-5 lbs/week and I'd worry.

    Quoted message said:

    so they lose all their muscle, their metabolism plummets,

    This is so wrong, you've just lost all your remaining credibility.

  18. PJx said:

    On 23 Aug 2004 07:05:59 -0700, [email hidden] (The Voice of

    Reason) said:


    You can't be vigorous without eating the food to go with it. I've seen
    some of the people on those low calorie diets and they all look gaunt
    and hollow.

    You need to change your nick. You definitely are not a voice of
    reason.

    That gaunt and hollow look is what we should ALL be reaching for.
    I've known lots of people that have been thru heart bypass surgery and
    the only ones that are healthy, active and happy 5 years later are the
    ones that look gaunt and hollow. They followed their doctors advice
    and lost nearly all their body fat and excerise vigorously every day.

    Same thing with all my relatives. The gaunt look seems to be the key
    to staying active up the age of 95 plus in my family.

    And genetics play no role? My grandfather was an alcoholic, smoked
    unfiltered cigarettes, was abusive, worked in the coal mines, ate a
    horrible diet by any standard, never exercised and is somewhere near 90.

    Quoted message said:

    Let me tell you what else the guys say. They say that after losing
    the body fat and exercising vigorously, they wake up with a boner
    several times a night - something they hadn't done in years. It is
    the best cure for impotency ever found.

    Are you sure that's not a medical condition? What's good a boner do you
    when you want to sleep?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    A body in starvation mode is a good thing

    Yeah, if you like being a flabby skeleton sat on the couch all day
    without enough strength to lift so much as a roll of carpet.

    Those rats on reduced calorie diets were healthy and more active
    as well as living twice as long as the one on the 'normal' diet.

    Pj

    Good for the rats. I'm happy for them.

    --
    Bob in CT
    Remove ".x" to reply

  19. My weight stats are below in my sig. I'm 5'7" and 39 years old. I get out
    and walk about 30 mins each day, more on the weekends. I've been doing some
    on a stationary bike, usually 30 mins at a time, 2 or 3 times a week.

    --
    Linda
    296/203/160
    LC since Oct. 13, 2003
    http://home.att.net/~lewis_linda/index.html

    "The Voice of Reason" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "Lady o' the house" <[email hidden]> wrote in message


    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I've been wondering lately if I should up my calories. Lately, I've


    been

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    averaging around 1200 calories and 30-35 carbs per day. I'm losing


    about a

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    pound a week (I know, that's great and I should be happy---52 pounds in


    a

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    year). But I read in DANDR that if one wants to count calories, to use


    the

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    10-12x rule. I can't imagine losing weight eating 2000 calories. Some


    here

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    have suggested that I may need to go lower than that, say 7 or 8x. My
    calorie count is only a little more than 5 times my weight.

    Also, could the fact that my calories are low be a cause of my thinning
    hair? It seems to have happened shortly after I began to really count
    calories. I've always had really thick and full hair; now I can see my
    scalp through the top front of my hair.

    Well, when you're eating that little you'll be malnurished. I suggest
    increasing your food intake and increasing the exercise to compensate.
    What does your workout look like, and how much protein are you
    getting? What's your age, weight, height etc?

  20. Hi, Lady,

    Personally, I am against low calorie diets for the following reason
    - there is very little room to go down. 1200 kcal is pretty much the
    minimum for healthy living. And your body gets used to that. As soon
    as the intake goes up, the weight comes back. So you're pretty much
    restricting your self to around 1200 kcal for the rest of your life.
    You might eat a bit more once in maintenance, but not by much. And as
    we get older, we will have to eat less and less to keep the weight
    off. I can't imagine how low you'll have to go if you're at 1200 kcal
    now.

    Through experimentation, I found that I can lose (very slowly) if I
    eat about 1600 kcal a day, exercise 5-7 times a week (with
    moderate-heavy cardio at least 4 times), and not eat after 5pm. In
    fact, I would say that not eating after 5pm is the key. If hungry in
    the evening, I'll have a green salad with squeezed lemon juice for
    dressing, and tea. Except for TOM, when I go crazy, this is enough.
    At maintenance, I think that I'll be able to eat around 1800 kcal a
    day, and this would leave plenty of room for me to reduce the intake
    if I have to.

    In your case, I would be very careful when upping calories. If you
    want to try eating more, you absolutely have to add cardio. I heard
    that a person burns around 100 kcal per every mile ran at 5mph. If
    walking at a fast pace, I'd think you'd burn around 80 kcal per mile.
    So if you walk 2-3 miles per day, you'd be able to add about 150 kcal
    per day (before 5pm). You could try that. Also, as others suggested,
    weight lifting is also very important - preserves muscles mass, makes
    metabolism more efficient, tones up flabby skin, etc. If you can't
    have a regular weight lifting session several times a week, you can
    add ankle weights or cary dumbles when you walk to add a bit of weight
    training.

    I've tried combining LC with Weight Watchers, and eating LC foods
    at my points range (20 pts), which is about 1200 kcal, and I was
    starving all the time. So I can't even imagine how you manage on
    1200.

    In either case, you have to experiment, and find out what works for
    you. Best of luck!

    Elana

    "Lady o' the house" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    I've been wondering lately if I should up my calories. Lately, I've been
    averaging around 1200 calories and 30-35 carbs per day. I'm losing about a
    pound a week (I know, that's great and I should be happy---52 pounds in a
    year). But I read in DANDR that if one wants to count calories, to use the
    10-12x rule. I can't imagine losing weight eating 2000 calories. Some here
    have suggested that I may need to go lower than that, say 7 or 8x. My
    calorie count is only a little more than 5 times my weight.

    I guess I'm wondering if I am getting enough nutrition. I feel good, and
    the weight is coming off slowly. Wondering if I up the calories if the
    weight will come off faster (wouldn't mind that right now, at least till I
    get to Pre-Maintenance.)

    Also, could the fact that my calories are low be a cause of my thinning
    hair? It seems to have happened shortly after I began to really count
    calories. I've always had really thick and full hair; now I can see my
    scalp through the top front of my hair.

    Or should I just do my own experiment?

    Thanks. I'm really glad to have all you experts to bounce questions off of
    (ewww, bad grammar! Sorry!)

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